Breloom is NASTY [OU RMT]

andredesterro

Hey smoggers, I have done a team recently, and I think it is good.
Homewe, I want your help of how to improve this team´s strenght and, with no Furthher ado, here is the team.

The Lead
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Crobat (M) @ Black Sludge Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Super Fang
- Roost
- U-turn


Oh, this lead is really awesome, shuts up many of the bulky stealth rockers, and those ugly skarmorys with no attacking move and even the ones with BB with Taunt+Super Fang.
His main purpose is dont let the Leads setuping SR, racking some damage with Super Fang, to make the sweep easier, and when the matchup is bad, U-turn to a counter.



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Heatran (M) @ Shuca Berry
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power


The LeadTran out of the Lead position XD.
This Heatran is really awesome, as he can set up SR, and stand his Own with FB+EP.
When His job is done or those Fucking Blisseys apear is BOOM right in their face, but I prefer Timid for more SPdef Bulk though.



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Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Seed Bomb
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Spore


The standard SubSpore Breloom with more Speed Evs to Focus Punch before the other brelooms.
Normally I start with Spore to render a pokemon of my opponent useless, sub ass they switch, and cause the PANIC.
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Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Surf
- Roar

Then I needed a Bulky Water, and there is no better than Vappy.
Wish+Protect to Heal Myself and my partners, and Protect is really good VS Choice item users.
Surf is kinda obvious and in the last Slot I decided to use Roar, because my team Lacks a Phazer, but I accept suggestions for this Slot.



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Rotom-W @ Choice Scarf Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hydro Pump
- Trick


My revenge killer.
He kills many things and his typing coupled with his bulk gaves him a great time revenge killing.
Timid to Outspeed ScarfTran and anything below.
In this slot was an Rotom-H, but thanks to Alan suggestion, I changed it to Rotom-W.


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Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Technician
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bug Bite
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance

My Stat Up Sweeper.
He Sets up on Many pokemons and kills a lot with its double STAB, but I have troubles with faster fires or steels, namely heatran so, I ll maybe change Bug Bite to Brick Break.

Ok, this is my team.
Rate and Enjoy.
 
Hey cool team. Breloom is one of my favorite pokemon, but everyone is using it now. :( Thats because its an excellent pokemon though!

I also like Crobat but I think that replacing U-Turn with Brave Bird could be beneficial for you, as it will take out Machamp, one of the current most popular leads, and since nothing can really take a hit from him on your team. (Just about everything is 1 or 2HKO'd), that would really save you some trouble. Besides, having Roost on your bat means Recoil isn't that big of a problem. Also, Crobat works better with a standard EV spread of 104 HP / 152 Atk / 252 Spe.

Heatran looks fine.

Breloom should have an EV spread of 236 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spe, assuming you desire a bulky spread. 236 HP will give you maximum recovery from Poison Heal, while Max Attack will allow you to do as much damage as possible. 12 Spe is really just leftover EVs. If you wish to have extra Speed you should take it from the Attack stat, since 4 Atk EVs won't make that big of a difference.

Vappy looks fine, even though I think its pretty overrated but thats me.

Rotom-H is not a very good choice as a Scarf pokemon imo. Hidden Power [Ground] is also beyond useless since a neutral STAB Thunderbolt will do about the same damage to everything that Hidden Power [Ground] will hit for 2x damage. I would suggest using Choice Scarf Rotom-w if you are going to use a Scarf Rotom-A. Its access to Hydro Pump is very useful and has better neutral coverage than Hidden Power [Ground].

Rotom-W @ Choice Scarf | 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe | Timid Nature
Hydro Pump | Thunderbolt | Shadow Ball | Trick

I'm not really sure what Scizor is doing on your team. I think Choice Band Scizor would fit better, since it has similar counters to Breloom and has access to U-Turn to scout and Bullet Punch which can allow you to revenge kill weakened stuff. Its rather cliche, but hey, it does its job well.

Scizor @ Choice Band | 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe | Adamant Nature
Bullet Punch | U-Turn | Superpower | Pursuit

Okay, thats all I got for you. I hope my changes helped and good luck. :toast:
 
I liked the changes you suggested, so I´ll give them a Try.
And I used SD Scizor because Banded is kinda overrated, and the main reason was that he is the only set upper on my team, and I play a lot better with Set Uppers, but I will try all of those changes.
Thanks!
 
Sorry for the double post, but I added images of each pokemons and changed a bit their descrptions.
All the opinions are apreciated so rate, you have nothing to lose.
 
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Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Seed Bomb
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Spore


The standard SubSpore Breloom with more Speed Evs to Focus Punch before the other brelooms.
Normally I start with Spore to render a pokemon of my opponent useless, sub ass they switch, and cause the PANIC.
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if you want to hit other brelooms with your focus punches in actual fact you will have to take away some speed ev's which is not beneficial for Breloom.
but if you really have to run 12 speed ev's or 30 iv for HP.

hope i helped.
 
Now,You Lack a Bit Of Description ( IDK XD )

Now For Rates...

As For Crobat,Use Brave Bird > U-turn As You Dont Need TO U-turn.

See The Crobat Vs Other Leads:(Stolen From reyscarface Lead List)Sorry >_<
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    - Azelf    : Just Use Taunt Or Super Fang And Finish Off Again With Super Fang ;)
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    - Aerodactyl    : This is Hard,Depends If You Win Speed Tie,Use Super Fang If You Dont Want to Risk It,Switch To Vaporeon
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    - Swampert    : Switch to Breloom And Spore It.
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    - Machamp    : Man is this thing a bitch.But Against Your Team,Its Not,Just Brave Bird It For the OHKO
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    - Metagross    : Most Leads This Days Use Lum Berry,You Might Wanna Switch To Heatran And Spam Earth Power
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    - Jirachi    : Jirachi is a bitch most definitely As a Flincher,But Crobat Cant Be Flinch,So Maybe if You Want to Risk,Use Super Fang,If Not,Switch to Heatran
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    - Infernape    : He Cant Flinch You Due To Inner Focus,So Just Super Fang And Brave Bird For The OHKO
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    - Ninjask    : Haha Ninjask. Taunt It,And Then Laugh At Wait Can He Do At Crobat
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    - Roserade    : Taunt Then BRAVE BIRD!:D
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    - Hippowdon    : Read Swampert
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    - Tyranitar    : This Is The Lead You Dont Wanna Face,Switch to Vaporeon And Wish + Protect + Surf Combo to kill it
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    - Heatran    : You Might Want to Super Fang xD.Switch to Vaporeon
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    - Smeargle    : Taunt,Super Fang,Brave Bird For The OHKO
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    - Starmie    : This Lead Is The Worst To Face D:.You Can Switch to Rotom And Spam ShadowBall :)
So Yeah,Brave Bird Is Useful Agaisnt Other...

Use Blissey > Scizor To Counter Breloom #1 Counter.Zapdos.So Yeah WishBliss Is Good..As For Breloom,You Might Want To Use Leech Seed > Seed Bomb

Good Luck!
 
Thanks Isaac, I´ll do what yu suggested.
And real thanks to you [DR]InferNAPE for the lead Threat list, and I am already using Brave Bird, but I forgetted to modify the main post, to your other suggentions, Blissey is godd, but she is set up Fodder so I can Use Snorlax in her place? And breloom has Seed Bomb to hit Ghosts so I guess SB will Stay.
Rate!
 
andredesterro said:
Thanks Isaac, I´ll do what yu suggested.
And real thanks to you [DR]InferNAPE for the lead Threat list, and I am already using Brave Bird, but I forgetted to modify the main post, to your other suggentions, Blissey is godd, but she is set up Fodder so I can Use Snorlax in her place? And breloom has Seed Bomb to hit Ghosts so I guess SB will Stay.
Rate!
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Actually,Blissey Can Stealth Rock,Toxic Pokemon And Seismic Toss.Makes The oppo CRY....So Yeah,Anyways,With Leech Seed,You Can Make Subs Like Everyday,Because The Recover Of Poison Heal And Leech Seed Is Perfect For The Substitute Recovery,You Can Make Heatran Your Status Absorber If You Choose Blissey With Stealth Rock.Also,Blissey Is Counters SpA Attacks Which Is Good For your Team.Think About It ;)
 
[DR]InferNAPE said:
Actually,Blissey Can Stealth Rock,Toxic Pokemon And Seismic Toss.Makes The oppo CRY....So Yeah,Anyways,With Leech Seed,You Can Make Subs Like Everyday,Because The Recover Of Poison Heal And Leech Seed Is Perfect For The Substitute Recovery,You Can Make Heatran Your Status Absorber If You Choose Blissey With Stealth Rock.Also,Blissey Is Counters SpA Attacks Which Is Good For your Team.Think About It ;)
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Yeah, you made me starting try blissey, if she proves superior, she will stay.
And the Leech Seed can be good, but the only problems are that rotoms, gengars and other ghosts that leave me helpless.
In case of I stay with leech seed, Should I use a poke like ScarfTyra to eliminate the ghosts?And I dont have a Set Uper if I take blissey so... what you suggest?
 
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There are a few issues/Nitpicks wth that Threat List that I just wanted to point out. (Comments in BOLD)

[DR]InferNAPE said:
Now,You Lack a Bit Of Description ( IDK XD )

Now For Rates...

As For Crobat,Use Brave Bird > U-turn As You Dont Need TO U-turn.


See The Crobat Vs Other Leads:(Stolen From reyscarface Lead List)Sorry >_<
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    - Azelf    : Just Use Taunt Or Super Fang And Finish Off Again With Super Fang ;)
Psychic was run just under 50% of the time on Azelf. This means that your Corbt gets smashed with a STAB psychic while you either prevent SR from going up or you break their sash. You lose really though.
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    - Aerodactyl    : This is Hard,Depends If You Win Speed Tie,Use Super Fang If You Dont Want to Risk It,Switch To Vaporeon
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    - Swampert    : Switch to Breloom And Spore It.
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    - Machamp    : Man is this thing a bitch.But Against Your Team,Its Not,Just Brave Bird It For the OHKO
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    - Metagross    : Most Leads This Days Use Lum Berry,You Might Wanna Switch To Heatran And Spam Earth Power
  • 385.png
    - Jirachi    : Jirachi is a bitch most definitely As a Flincher,But Crobat Cant Be Flinch,So Maybe if You Want to Risk,Use Super Fang,If Not,Switch to Heatran
  • 392.png
    - Infernape    : He Cant Flinch You Due To Inner Focus,So Just Super Fang And Brave Bird For The OHKO
  • 291.png
    - Ninjask    : Haha Ninjask. Taunt It,And Then Laugh At Wait Can He Do At Crobat
  • 407.png
    - Roserade    : Taunt Then BRAVE BIRD!:D
  • 450.png
    - Hippowdon    : Read Swampert
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    - Tyranitar    : This Is The Lead You Dont Wanna Face,Switch to Vaporeon And Wish + Protect + Surf Combo to kill it
  • 485.png
    - Heatran    : You Might Want to Super Fang xD.Switch to Vaporeon
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    - Smeargle    : Taunt,Super Fang,Brave Bird For The OHKO
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    - Starmie    : This Lead Is The Worst To Face D:.You Can Switch to Rotom And Spam ShadowBall :)
Don't go to Rotom. if (for example) Starmie gets smart and used Hydro Pump on the switch then Rotom gets OHKO'ed and then it pretty much runns through the team. This leads on to my next few points below.

So Yeah,Brave Bird Is Useful Agaisnt Other...



Use Blissey > Scizor To Counter Breloom #1 Counter.Zapdos.So Yeah WishBliss Is Good..As For Breloom,You Might Want To Use Leech Seed > Seed Bomb

Scizor is not realy a counter for Breloom since it cannot swich in on a Spore and it gets hit fairly hard by Breloom with Focus Punch. I would prefer to think of Celebi or heck a bulky Roserade as better counters to Breloom.

Good Luck!
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Also don't use Blissey on this team. Its far less usefull for you team and its set up fodder for many pokemon.

I feel that once Rotom goes down your team is vulnerable to many threats. I also think that you have slight troubles with Starmie and Sub Gengar can cause you slight trouble since Rotom cannot really switch in on a Starmie's Hydro Pump.

I thinik that a scrf tar can serve you better than Scarf Rotom but I guess thats up to you. If get sligtly weaker to Gyarads in this way but if you run HP Electric on Vaporeon over Roar you should have Gyarados covered,

Have a Nice Day!
 
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