Upon using G-Max Volcalith, I believe I noticed two bugs about it. First every turn it hits for 1/8 instead of 1/6 of the opponents' HP, and second it seemed to only do damage for 3 turns, instead of 4. While the 1/8 is the amount listed on PSdex, that is not the number elsewhere on the internet, and just to make sure, a friend and I saw the 1/6 number in game when testing it.
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Bug Reports v3 [READ ORIGINAL POST before posting]
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Variable power moves appear to display their base power value incorrectly when calculating Z-Move powers. This is consistent between the in-battle displays of power calculations, and with the damage calculator. This affects Grass Knot and Low Kick when calculating Z-Move power, but the actual power of the move is still hard set to 100 (from testing). I have not yet tested this with other variable power moves such as Psywave.
tldr; variable power moves display as 160 power despite being hardcoded to 100 base power.
tldr; variable power moves display as 160 power despite being hardcoded to 100 base power.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8metronomebattle-1072622192
Turn 8: Present fails when hitting Substitute. My guess is that it rolled the heal and failed for some reason. EDIT: Or something to do with targeting since it just failed, I remember posting about Present and that before.
Ingame heal works on substitute: https://streamable.com/h9ti2
It's not shown but attacking the sub works just fine.
Turn 8: Present fails when hitting Substitute. My guess is that it rolled the heal and failed for some reason. EDIT: Or something to do with targeting since it just failed, I remember posting about Present and that before.
Ingame heal works on substitute: https://streamable.com/h9ti2
It's not shown but attacking the sub works just fine.
Me: Let’s do a body press set with shuckle with the inheritance gimmick.
*uses claydol learnset and ability*
Validator:
P.S. why would it just think “vika doesn’t get this learnset, so this isn’t valid” without checking anything else? Very strange.
*uses claydol learnset and ability*
Validator:
P.S. why would it just think “vika doesn’t get this learnset, so this isn’t valid” without checking anything else? Very strange.
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Not sure if this is the right place, but in damage calc power spot is currently treated as though you're holding a life orb regardless of what your item actually is, only noticed bc it came up today in a tour game and apparently fucked it up
252 Atk Leftovers Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shiinotic: 276-325 (85.1 - 100.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery - note leftovers being tracked when normally it wouldn't in that position
252 Atk Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shiinotic: 212-250 (65.4 - 77.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery -calc fixes itself to what happens on-sim when you remove power spot, and also stops factoring in leftovers
if this is the wrong thread feel free to move it
252 Atk Leftovers Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shiinotic: 276-325 (85.1 - 100.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery - note leftovers being tracked when normally it wouldn't in that position
252 Atk Stonjourner Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shiinotic: 212-250 (65.4 - 77.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery -calc fixes itself to what happens on-sim when you remove power spot, and also stops factoring in leftovers
if this is the wrong thread feel free to move it
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokémon-showdown-damage-calculator.3593546/page-11 This is the correct location, though it looks like someone got to it already there.
Just as I suspected, there’s more validator problems. I think it’s something to do with checking only a single mon that can legally have the inherited ability, which renders some donors with dupe abilities unusable.
EDIT: By testing with other sets, this bug is limited to only a few donors. It IS kinda stupid though...
EDIT: By testing with other sets, this bug is limited to only a few donors. It IS kinda stupid though...
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(None of my other mons were a vikavolt, they were not named vikavolt, and did not inherit from vikaavolt. The only two that inherit from the baltoy line are the ones shown in the pic) It says I’m a vikavolt, but then registers that I use the baltoy line? And what is going on with the nickname thing? I have no words...
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Inheritance is probably broken.
Haven't tested this enough to determine if it is a UI bug or a gameplay bug but using a typing move like Forest's Curse on a pokemon and then dynamaxing that pokemon the status +Grass disappears.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1073806497
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1073806497
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ru-1073961965
emergency exit isn't working properly
Woble edit: turn 13
emergency exit isn't working properly
Woble edit: turn 13
Ok so I had this match where both a Reshiram and a Zekrom were named Zac Destroyer.
Reshiram had V-Create, Trick, Wish, and Fissure
Zekrom had Shell Smash, Bolt Beak, Spectral Thief, and Imprison
The opposing team had six Eternatus-Eternamax, including at least some that were Imposter. Neutralizing Gas nullified the effects of Imposter and Imposter was unable to trigger until the Neutralizing Gas Pokemon fainted or was swapped out.
Here is where things get trippy...
On Turn 24, one of the Eternatus-Eternamax the opposing team landed a Fissure on Zekrom. The Zekrom had x4 Atk, x4 SpA, x4 Spe, 0.4x Def, and 0.4x SpD. After the Zekrom fainted the Eternamax transformed into a seemingly unboosted Reshiram... This Reshiram had all of Zekrom's moves and all of Zekrom's boosts, but appeared as an unboosted Reshiram and caught me off guard by a mile.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8purehackmons-1074144692
It was wild.
Reshiram had V-Create, Trick, Wish, and Fissure
Zekrom had Shell Smash, Bolt Beak, Spectral Thief, and Imprison
The opposing team had six Eternatus-Eternamax, including at least some that were Imposter. Neutralizing Gas nullified the effects of Imposter and Imposter was unable to trigger until the Neutralizing Gas Pokemon fainted or was swapped out.
Here is where things get trippy...
On Turn 24, one of the Eternatus-Eternamax the opposing team landed a Fissure on Zekrom. The Zekrom had x4 Atk, x4 SpA, x4 Spe, 0.4x Def, and 0.4x SpD. After the Zekrom fainted the Eternamax transformed into a seemingly unboosted Reshiram... This Reshiram had all of Zekrom's moves and all of Zekrom's boosts, but appeared as an unboosted Reshiram and caught me off guard by a mile.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8purehackmons-1074144692
It was wild.
VGC related mechanic/interaction that doesn't work properly on showdown:
Eject Pack on a pokémon with drought (let's say, torkoal) vs pokémon with intimidate that's faster than torkoal, for example, Incineroar.
What should happen (what happens on cartridge):
Incineroar intimidates torkoal. Drought activates. After all abilities have activated, Torkoal switches out due to Eject pack.
Video proof:
What happens on Showdown:
Incineroar intimidates torkoal. Eject pack activates immediately, forcing torkoal to switch out. Drought doesn't activate. After torkoal switches out, abilities from pokémon slower than torkoal activate (like Pressure or Frisk from dusclops).
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1074228320-w27uyh1s3ble7k2v1d9bas2895nq8x4pw
Eject Pack on a pokémon with drought (let's say, torkoal) vs pokémon with intimidate that's faster than torkoal, for example, Incineroar.
What should happen (what happens on cartridge):
Incineroar intimidates torkoal. Drought activates. After all abilities have activated, Torkoal switches out due to Eject pack.
Video proof:
What happens on Showdown:
Incineroar intimidates torkoal. Eject pack activates immediately, forcing torkoal to switch out. Drought doesn't activate. After torkoal switches out, abilities from pokémon slower than torkoal activate (like Pressure or Frisk from dusclops).
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1074228320-w27uyh1s3ble7k2v1d9bas2895nq8x4pw
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Cross post from the SwSh game mechanics thread:
I made a fatal mistake in my breeding thanks to Showdown's implemented mechanics... When a Liquid Voice Primarina with Hyper Voice Dynamaxes, it stays as Max Strike because Max Strike is not a sound move.
Meanwhile, Showdown has Hyper Voice turn into Max Geyser. (I don't use Hyper Voice itself in the replay but it's the only sound or Water move on the set)
oh no
This needs a fixin'!
I made a fatal mistake in my breeding thanks to Showdown's implemented mechanics... When a Liquid Voice Primarina with Hyper Voice Dynamaxes, it stays as Max Strike because Max Strike is not a sound move.
Meanwhile, Showdown has Hyper Voice turn into Max Geyser. (I don't use Hyper Voice itself in the replay but it's the only sound or Water move on the set)
oh no
This needs a fixin'!
Visual Glitch as represented in video. Not sure it affected turn 4/5.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1074468229-4r9l4zvln9r473l85ts997cfsqod5k1pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1074468229-4r9l4zvln9r473l85ts997cfsqod5k1pw
It seems that Alolan Raichu is still banned in VGC 2020 although all other alolan forms are legal and I'm pretty sure Pokmon said that all Alolan forms will be legal.
Alolan Raichu isn't legal because you can't obtain an Alolan Raichu with the black Galar symbol. Unlike something like Alolan Ninetales, which will breed Alolan Vulpix with an Everstone, an Alolan Raichu with an Everstone will still breed a Kanto Pikachu, which will always evolve into Kanto Raichu in Galar.
So I've been trying to play Inheritance for quite a few days, and it still seems to be bugged. By all means my team should be legal, but for some reason it keeps invalidating my team. Idk what's causing it, but I can guarantee they're all inheriting from Pokemon in SS
(In the image, Zeroara is inheriting from Conkeldurr)
Edit: I nicknamed the Pokemon after the Pokemon they're inheriting from to avoid that nickname thing
Pokepaste for Reference:
https://pokepast.es/86f7b2ae2b1b6c1e
(In the image, Zeroara is inheriting from Conkeldurr)
Edit: I nicknamed the Pokemon after the Pokemon they're inheriting from to avoid that nickname thing
Pokepaste for Reference:
https://pokepast.es/86f7b2ae2b1b6c1e
I don't think you understand how Inheritance works... None of those are legal in this OM.
Read: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/inheritance-om-of-the-month.3656811/
Hello. I just wanna report a bug in the Pokemon damage calculator regarding Steely Spirit. Apparently it calculates as if the damage gets doubled, which is wrong since Steely Spirit only boosts the damage by 1,5x. I did some testing with my friend and it works as it should in battles, but the calculator is just far off. I copied some of the calculations we did.
252+ Atk Steely Spirit Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 372-438 (100.2 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 240-284 (64.6 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 186-222 (50.1 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
As you can see the calculations dont hold up. We did a test battle as well : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8anythinggoes-1075520344
That was with steely spirit on the exact same Rhydon spread
252+ Atk Steely Spirit Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 372-438 (100.2 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 240-284 (64.6 - 76.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Perrserker Iron Head vs. 80 HP / 200 Def Rhydon: 186-222 (50.1 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
As you can see the calculations dont hold up. We did a test battle as well : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8anythinggoes-1075520344
That was with steely spirit on the exact same Rhydon spread
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Snow Cloak can be used on Mamoswine in DPP even though it is supposed to be banned according to this thread
Edit: Not sure if this is the right place for this kind of error, so if not please let me know! Thanks
Edit: Not sure if this is the right place for this kind of error, so if not please let me know! Thanks
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May I ask whether utility umbrellas are supposed to account for damage modifiers from sun and rain like it did here with Greninja's surf? I saw this discussion earlier in the thread where someone said it ignores them, but I'm not so sure now, so I'm trying to clarify if this is a game mechanic or a bug.
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Got another bug with the Alola starters. The "ultimate moves" are listed as illegal only in VGC 2020 format, even though they can definitely learn those moves.
Strangely it works fine with any other format, even Battle Stadium.
Strangely it works fine with any other format, even Battle Stadium.
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