Gen 5 BW Monotype


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BW Monotype is the official Monotype metagame for Gen 5. Being the first one to have a ladder, it is regarded as "the original Monotype generation" or "the Weather Wars generation" due to permanent weather being its most remarkable mechanic. Like ORAS, it is still played in both room and forum tournaments, albeit less often.
Notably Different Mechanics:
  • Fairy type does not exist; most become either Normal-types or have their part-Fairy typing removed
  • The abilities Drizzle, Drought, Sand Stream, and Snow Warning enable permanent weather
  • Sand Stream + Sand Rush and Drizzle + Swift Swim are not allowed
  • Dark and Ghost are resisted by Steel
  • Higher base power of following moves: Draco Meteor (140), Overheat (140), Hydro Pump (120), Thunder (120), Fire Blast (120), Hurricane (120), Heat Wave (100), Surf (95), Ice Beam (95), Flamethrower (95), Thunderbolt (95), Dragon Pulse (90), Hidden Power (70)
  • Lower base power of following moves: Knock Off (20), Low Sweep (60), Energy Ball (80)
  • Critical hits do double damage instead of 1.5
  • Defog does not get rid of hazards
  • Sleep turns reset upon switching out
  • Powder moves affect Grass-type Pokemon, and Electric-types can be paralyzed by Thunder Wave
Banlist [Gen 5 OU]:
- Latios
+ Gems

Viability Rankings:
S Rank
Volcarona
Scizor

A Rank
Armaldo
Forretress
Heracross

B Rank
Durant
Yanmega

C Rank
Galvantula
Shuckle
Accelgor

D Rank
Crustle
Venomoth
S Rank
Tyranitar
Sableye
Hydreigon

A Rank
Umbreon
Honchkrow
Drapion
Scrafty

B Rank
Weavile
Spiritomb
Krookodile
Sharpedo
Mandibuzz

C Rank
Crawdaunt
Zoroark
Bisharp

D Rank
Houndoom
Cacturne
S Rank
Garchomp
Kyurem-Black
Dragonite

A Rank
Hydreigon
Salamence
Latias

B Rank
Kingdra
Haxorus

C Rank
Flygon
Druddigon

D Rank
Altaria
S Rank
Rotom-Wash

A Rank
Magnezone
Raikou
Zapdos
Thundurus-Therian

B Rank
Luxray
Eelektross
Electivire
Jolteon

C Rank
Lanturn
Galvantula
Stunfisk

D Rank
Magneton
Zebstrika
S Rank
Keldeo
Terrakion

A Rank
Breloom
Cobalion
Infernape
Heracross
Lucario
Scrafty

B Rank
Conkeldurr
Machamp
Toxicroak
Virizion
Mienshao

C Rank
Sawk
Gallade

D Rank
Poliwrath
Hariyama
Hitmontop
S Rank
Ninetales
Infernape

A Rank
Heatran
Darmanitan
Victini
Volcarona
Rotom-Heat
Torkoal

B Rank
Entei
Chandelure

C Rank
Charizard
Arcanine

D Rank
Houndoom
S Rank
Dragonite
Thundurus-Therian
Landorus-Therian

A Rank
Skarmory
Aerodactyl
Zapdos
Togekiss
Gliscor
Gyarados
Salamence
Xatu

B Rank
Honchkrow
Staraptor

C Rank
Tornadus
Yanmega

D Rank
Sigilyph
Gligar
S Rank
Gengar
Sableye

A Rank
Chandelure
Golurk
Jellicent
Froslass

B Rank
Dusclops
Spiritomb

C Rank
Cofagrigus
Rotom
Mismagius

D Rank
Shedinja
S Rank
Ferrothorn

A Rank
Breloom
Cradily
Celebi
Rotom-Mow

B Rank
Amoonguss
Virizion
Shaymin

C Rank
Whimsicott
Roserade
Tangrowth
Ludicolo

D Rank
Shiftry
Venusaur
S Rank
Garchomp
Hippowdon
Gastrodon
Mamoswine

A Rank
Nidoking
Excadrill
Gliscor
Landorus-Therian

B Rank
Seismitoad
Krookodile

C Rank
Quagsire
Gligar
Nidoqueen

D Rank
Swampert
Donphan
Piloswine
S Rank
Kyurem-Black
Mamoswine
Abomasnow
Walrein

A Rank
Weavile
Cloyster
Piloswine
Froslass
Cryogonal

B Rank
Rotom-Frost
Lapras

C Rank
Jynx

D Rank
Articuno
Regice
Glaceon
S Rank
Chansey
Porygon2

A Rank
Staraptor
Meloetta
Togekiss
Porygon-Z
Snorlax
Ditto

B Rank
Blissey

C Rank
Smeargle
Cinccino
Ambipom
Exploud

D Rank
Staravia
Braviary
S Rank
Nidoking
Gengar

A Rank
Tentacruel
Drapion
Weezing
Nidoqueen
Skuntank

B Rank
Crobat
Toxicroak
Amoonguss

C Rank
Venomoth
Skuntank
Golbat
Roserade

D Rank
Garbodor
Venusaur
Qwilfish
S Rank
Victini
Jirachi

A Rank
Alakazam
Slowbro
Mew
Meloetta
Reuniclus
Azelf
Starmie
Celebi

B Rank
Latias
Cresselia
Espeon
Gallade
Metagross

C Rank
Xatu
Sigilyph
Slowking
Uxie
Medicham
Bronzong

D Rank
Gardevoir
Jynx
S Rank
Terrakion
Tyranitar

A Rank
Cradily
Omastar
Aerodactyl

B Rank
Rhyperior
Kabutops

C Rank
Armaldo
Shuckle
Crustle

D Rank
Carracosta
Probopass
S Rank
Heatran
Skarmory

A Rank
Scizor
Excadrill
Ferrothorn
Jirachi
Lucario
Magnezone

B Rank
Bronzong
Empoleon

C Rank
Durant
Metagross
Forretress

D Rank
Bisharp
Cobalion
S Rank
Keldeo
Politoed
Vaporeon

A Rank
Jellicent
Tentacruel
Gyarados
Lanturn
Cloyster
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert

B Rank
Azumarill
Empoleon
Gastrodon
Rotom-Wash
Alomomola
Quagsire

C Rank
Kingdra
Slowbro
Ludicolo
Swanna
Sharpedo

D Rank
Qwilfish
Slowking
Omastar
Whiscash

Type Viability Rankings:
S Rank


A Rank


B Rank


C Rank


D Rank

Sample Teams:
click on the sprites to get each team's importable!


Bug
:volcarona::forretress::scizor::galvantula::heracross::yanmega: - Offensive Bug by Crashy


Dark
:sableye::hydreigon::tyranitar::mandibuzz::cacturne::weavile: - Cacturn Dark by Chaitanya


Dragon



Electric
:stunfisk: :rotom-wash: :thundurus-therian: :zapdos: :magnezone: :raikou: - Stunfisk Electric by Sabella


Fighting
:toxicroak::Keldeo::cobalion::Scrafty::heracross::breloom: - Toxicroak Fighting by Chaitanya

:mienshao::terrakion::scrafty::cobalion::keldeo::toxicroak: -Terrakion + Mienshao Fighting by Chaitanya


Fire
:torkoal::infernape::ninetales::volcarona::Victini::Heatran: - Expert Belt Infernape Fire by Bondie


Flying
:xatu::skarmory::salamence::gliscor::dragonite::thundurus-therian: - Balanced Flying by Crashy


Ghost
:sableye::froslass::jellicent::gengar::mismagius::golurk: - Ghost by Crashy


Grass
:rotom-mow::breloom::cradily::ferrothorn::amoonguss::shiftry: - Grass by Jyph


Ground

:garchomp::landorus-therian::hippowdon::gliscor::mamoswine::gastrodon:- Offensive Sand Ground by Chaitanya

:garchomp::nidoking::excadrill::gliscor::hippowdon::gastrodon:- Nidoking Ground by Chaitanya



Ice
:abomasnow::walrein::kyurem-black::froslass::cloyster::mamoswine: - Specs Froslass Ice by Crashy


Normal
:togekiss::chansey::porygon2::ditto::staraptor::meloetta: - Normal by Crashy


Poison
:crobat::skuntank::tentacruel::gengar::nidoking::amoonguss: - Balanced poison by Crashy


Psychic

:latias::slowbro::victini::jirachi::starmie::celebi: by Attribute & sasha



Rock
:archeops::omastar::terrakion::rhyperior::tyranitar::cradily: - Offensive Rock by Crashy


Steel

:excadrill::ferrothorn::heatran::skarmory::scizor::jirachi: - Balanced Steel by Chaitanya



Water

:vaporeon::tentacruel::swampert::politoed::keldeo::cloyster:- Balanced Rain Water by Jolly Togekiss ^-^

:empoleon::gyarados::keldeo::politoed::swampert::starmie:- Offensive Water by Chaitanya
 
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Welp as an avid player of BW back in the day, here is one of my old teams

Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 3 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 SpD
- Giga Drain
- Quiver Dance
- Fiery Dance
- Hidden Power [Ground]

Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge/Pursuit
- Earthquake/Stone edge

Forretress @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Roost

Yanmega @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect
- Air Slash

Galvantula @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunder
- Bug Buzz
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Bug is a terrific offensive powerhouse in the BW era, and this team is designed to basically hit fast and hard.

Forre is the normal lead for the team, being the main source of hazard control, and is the go to mon to basically set up rocks, and then either explode, spin or slide (To handle some threats to this like Lead Aerodactyl flying who with taunt can shut you down, but with rockslide you can 2KO it)

Volcarona is normal old volcarona, however it has HP ground to handle the pesky core that messes with Bug type (And a lot of types in general with BW) the rather infamous Skarm Heatran core.

Scizor and Yanmega I nickname the "dragon busters" as once you have rocks up against dragon these two mons can easily sweep dragon, granted in different ways. Yanmega is also nice to have cause of the speed control it offers

Galv doesn't have much use in general but it makes a very good water counter, as Giga drain counters Swampert, the main switch in to Galv, and thunder handles the rest.. It has hp ice in there when it isn't facing water based teams as the two more popular types (Dragon, ground and flying) feature a few mons who are 4X weak to ice such as Chomp, Dnite, and Lando T

And lastly Heracross. Cross is the mon meant to punch holes in opposing teams. It also is there to threaten a few sweepers. If positioned right Cross can net a few kos and get a much higher attack stat. I prefer Edge + EQ but thats my thing. others might want pursuit to ko mons who just go in and attack once then swap like Victini.

Overall this like a lot of my bug teams served me exemplorarily well back in BW and hope it serves newer BW players very well too.
 
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Dharma

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ice team for gen 5
Cryogonal @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Blizzard
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Blizzard / Ice Beam
- Roost

Mamoswine @ Focus Sash
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Stealth Rock
- Endeavor
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

Cloyster @ King's Rock
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Hydro Pump

Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Blizzard / Ice Beam
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Earthquake

Walrein @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Body
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Surf
- Toxic
a team i've been using in every single room tour for the past month or so, been working out quite well. cba making custom evs or whatever so if you find some optimal spread then cheerio. blizzard is a super good move obviously but i can some tough times vs ground now and then since it's so dependent on hail, so up to you which you want to run.
 
ice team for gen 5
Cryogonal @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Blizzard
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Earth Power
- Fusion Bolt
- Blizzard / Ice Beam
- Roost

Mamoswine @ Focus Sash
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Stealth Rock
- Endeavor
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

Cloyster @ King's Rock
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Hydro Pump

Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Blizzard / Ice Beam
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Earthquake

Walrein @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Body
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Surf
- Toxic
a team i've been using in every single room tour for the past month or so, been working out quite well. cba making custom evs or whatever so if you find some optimal spread then cheerio. blizzard is a super good move obviously but i can some tough times vs ground now and then since it's so dependent on hail, so up to you which you want to run.
I like the team but i would suggest swapping Mamoswines ability from Oblivious to Thick fat since not many people go for attract strats at all... and thick that is better overall for the fire protection that him and Walrein provide

Also your team is likely to face trouble with fighting like usual... maybe try Froslass as well as a semi check to some fighting mons that are used on other types such as band Gallade on Psychic, or specs Keldeo on water

as for some other stuff I personally like mixed attacking Kyurem but normally with HP fire to counter Ferrothorn when it switches in (since it will always switch in on Kyurem black) this lets it net a ko on Ferrothorn on switches as hp fire kyurem 2hkos ferrothorn, and 1hko forretress for tho
se who use bug type as it bypasses sturdy.

anyways take my advice if you want, these are just things ive noticed while playing with Ice type in gen 5 whilst in the past
 

Dharma

definition of the living dead.
is a Top Artist
I like the team but i would suggest swapping Mamoswines ability from Oblivious to Thick fat since not many people go for attract strats at all... and thick that is better overall for the fire protection that him and Walrein provide

Also your team is likely to face trouble with fighting like usual... maybe try Froslass as well as a semi check to some fighting mons that are used on other types such as band Gallade on Psychic, or specs Keldeo on water

as for some other stuff I personally like mixed attacking Kyurem but normally with HP fire to counter Ferrothorn when it switches in (since it will always switch in on Kyurem black) this lets it net a ko on Ferrothorn on switches as hp fire kyurem 2hkos ferrothorn, and 1hko forretress for tho
se who use bug type as it bypasses sturdy.

anyways take my advice if you want, these are just things ive noticed while playing with Ice type in gen 5 whilst in the past
oblivious on mamo is to not be affected by taunt, since it's a suicide lead set (note the minimum IVs and endeavor-ice shard), so it's not really meant to take hits in the first place, let alone from fire moves.

i guess you could somehow fit froslass, but that would mean getting rid of the only form of emergency hazard removal on the team in cryogonal, which i dont think would be good. fighting's a shitty MU anyways, so might as well prep for other MUs better.

hp fire on kyurem seems alright but between the other hp fire users on the team + kyurem having access to life orb blizzard which dents ferro anyways and walrein being able to outstall it if need be, i dont think hp fire on kyurem is too important but that might just be me.

Edit: as Yami posted below, I was wrong in thinking Oblivious blocks taunt, my bad. Regardless, I would still run oblivious just so I don't take reduced damage from stray fire moves, as I want to get the hp as low as I can for endeavor
 
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oblivious on mamo is to not be affected by taunt, since it's a suicide lead set (note the minimum IVs and endeavor-ice shard), so it's not really meant to take hits in the first place, let alone from fire moves.

i guess you could somehow fit froslass, but that would mean getting rid of the only form of emergency hazard removal on the team in cryogonal, which i dont think would be good. fighting's a shitty MU anyways, so might as well prep for other MUs better.

hp fire on kyurem seems alright but between the other hp fire users on the team + kyurem having access to life orb blizzard which dents ferro anyways and walrein being able to outstall it if need be, i dont think hp fire on kyurem is too important but that might just be me.
Hi, in gen 5, Oblivious does not block Taunt, only attract. It only blocks Taunt gen 6 and up. You can read about it here https://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/abilities/oblivious/
 
Hi since I’ve been helping Dieu out so much it’s made me decide I want to make a lot more samples to help newer users understand this meta when users like myself, Jt, Crashy, Jyph etc finally quit mons
Gallade (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Shadow Sneak
- Zen Headbutt
- Drain Punch

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 220 HP / 126 SpA / 162 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Giga Drain
- Baton Pass
- Earth Power

Victini @ Choice Band
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- V-create
- U-turn
- Bolt Strike
- Brick Break

Latios (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Head
- Thunder Wave
- Trick
- Fire Punch
This is a very good team to smash steel and water, it’s a nice basic team to learn the ropes on while still being nice and effective

Azelf is a suicide lead made to counter most leads with its great speed, the type coverage it has are for once it’s done it’s taunt/sr combo to badly damage or punish the mons it’s coming in on specifically ones like Ferrothorn, Forretress and Garchomp

Gallade Is one of the best mons to smash Steel for psychic, I made it choice band and Adament because that way steels only safe check (Skarmory) gets 2 shot with or without rocks.

Celebi is support through NP and BP to Latios, but is effective at countering water teams outside of Tentacruel and Gyarados

Latios and Victini are cleaners,with vic being the backup steel counter. Latios should be baton passed into by Celebi to get NP buffs but works fine without, Victini has brick break in case Gallade dies and so it can 2 shot the best counter to it normally on steel in heatran

and lastly Jirachi is just it’s standard annoyance scarf set common for gen5

I’ll likely post more teams soon
 

sasha

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Hi, with the recent Latios ban we need new samples, I know it's quite early for this but I figured we should get some new ones anyway for now until the meta settles then different ones can be created if necessary, I just thought this would be good for now, if they need more work ping me on cord.

Meloetta + Lati Psy - by Me
Band Gallade Psy - by Me
Scarf Healing Wish Lati Psy - by Attribute (thanks for the help!)

also ty to crashy who looked at my teams to let me know if they were viable
ill probably try to make dragon ones soon but i encourage other people to hop in and get building!
 
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