CAP 29 - Art Poll 2

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Massive congratulations to those who made it this far, and commisserations to those who didn't - and thank you to every artist for the incredible designs we got to choose from. And now welcome... to Art Poll 2!

CAP 29 So Far

Topic Leadership Team:

Topic Leader: Birkal
Typing Stage Leader: quziel
Ability Stage Leader: Tadasuke
Stats Stage Leader: 2spoopy4u
Movepool Stage Leader: SHSP

Concept:
quziel said:
Name: Defective Ability

Description: This Pokemon manages to work around an ability that is generally considered harmful, and is viable, or even better for it.

Justification: Defective Ability is an Actualization concept; aiming to create a Pokemon that works around, or works with, an ability that would be considered bad on most pokemon.

There is not a single Pokemon ranked above NU that has a generally negative ability; for good reason, while most pokemon gain a benefit from their ability, these Pokemon are held back. Golisopod, the currently highest ranked pokemon with a negative ability is also unique among its brethren in that its movepool is set up to synergize, and benefit from its ability Emergency Exit, with First Impression benefiting heavily from being switched out directly after use. A non-exhaustive list of negative abilities is Color Change, Defeatist, Emergency Exit, Klutz, Normalize, Slow Start, Stall, Truant. These abilities are yet-untouched by CAP, and I believe that exploring them with typings, movepools, and stats specifically meant to work with, and work around their shortcomings can help us to understand more about how abilities interact with CAPs, and how important the ability slot really is. I do not consider a NCA to be a defective ability as it does not specifically have to be planned around.

This concept aims to question how impactful these abilities are when their downsides are specifically planned for, their strengths, if any, are accentuated, and how viable of a CAP we can make with a handicap in the ability stage.

Questions To Be Answered:

  • How much of a drawback is a negative ability? How much should a negative ability be compensated for in the typing, move, and stats stages?
  • Are there some negative abilities that are more suited to exploration in a CAP process? Why or Why not?
  • If a negative ability is chosen for a primary what abilities are suitable for a secondary ability slot? Purely negative ones, or is there a situation where a pokemon would prefer an ability generally thought of as negative?
  • How does typing interact with a negative ability like this; slow start obviously wants a Toxic immunity due to how long it'll stay on the field, but is it needed, do other abilities have strong typing-ability interactions.
  • How can movepool change the impact of a harmful ability? Golisopod shows that it is possible to leverage the early switch out, are other negative abilities something that can be leveraged or minimized with the correct movepool?
  • How much do stats have to compensate for a negative ability, what are the ideal stat spreads for each negative ability?
  • How can we define a "generally harmful ability"? What are some metrics to define it? Are comparisons with neutral abilities helpful?
  • Which abilities can be worked with? Which abilities can only be worked around? Is it better to choose an ability that can be worked with? or only around?
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Primary Ability: Color Change

Typing: Dark/Poison

Concept Assessment 2 Closing Post

Defining Moves:
Required: Calm Mind, Consistent 50% Recovery, Sludge Bomb, Dark Pulse
Optional: Coil, Strength Sap, Gunk Shot, Knock Off, Scald, Ice Beam

Stats: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 115 Def / 115 SpA / 100 SpD / 100 Spe (600 BST)


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Meliiow

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Yokaiju

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Mos-Quitoxe

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Pipotchi

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Golurkyourself

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Quotidian

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Gravity Monkey

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House_of_Radiance

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Amamama

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Pinesmoke

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Meliiow
Yokaiju
Mos-Quitoxe
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Quotidian
Gravity Monkey
House_of_Radiance
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Mova

Mova

Gravity Monkey
Meliiow
Pinesmoke
Yokaiju
House_of_Radiance
Pipotchi
Amamama
Quotidian
Mos-Quitoxe
Golurkyourself
 
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DrifblooomCF

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Meliiow
Yokaiju
Mos-Quitoxe
Pinesmoke
Gravity Monkey
Quotidian
Pipotchi
Amamama
House_of_Radiance
 
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Pipotchi

Pipotchi

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Pipotchi
Yokaiju
Gravity Monkey
Golurkyourself
Meliiow
Quotidian
Amamama
Pinesmoke
Mos-Quitoxe
House_of_Radiance
 
Yoshiblaze

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Gravity Monkey
House_of_Radiance
Amamama
Quotidian
Meliiow
Golurkyourself
Pinesmoke
Yokaiju
Pipotchi
Mos-Quitoxe
 
Quanyails

Quanyails

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Meliiow
Pipotchi
Mos-Quitoxe
Yokaiju
Amamama
Golurkyourself
Gravity Monkey
House_of_Radiance
Quotidian
Pinesmoke
 
Gravity Monkey

Gravity Monkey

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Gravity Monkey
Meliiow
Pipotchi
Pinesmoke
Golurkyourself
Yokaiju
Quotidian
House_of_Radiance
Amamama
Mos-Quitoxe

Great designs from everyone in here, it feels so heart-wrenching to have to rank aaaaaskjdsad
 
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Dece1t

House_of_Radiance
Yokaiju
Golurkyourself
Meliiow
Mos-Quitoxe
Pipotchi

Modedit: Fixing spelling of "Meliiow".
 
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kjnjkmjk1

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Golurkyourself
Quotidian
Gravity Monkey
Meliiow
Yokaiju
Amamama
Pipotchi
Pinesmoke
House_of_Radiance
Mos-Quitoxe
 
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