One quick question, Do you response to everyone's that talk to you in such a harsh manner or are you easily angered?
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CAP 3 CAP 3 - Part 9.5 (Main/Secondary Ability Poll)
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Arrogant does not mean that you have to add fuck, and shit to every single post of yours when trying to prove a point.
Please look at the definition of the word before using it.
Arrogant: exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner.
You don't have to act like an angry little ass when making a point just because your ego is swollen.
I can attest to this seeing as I have a friend who literally thinks of himself as the smartest person in the state... he doesn't act like a jerk to people who disagree with him though.
You forgot something else that was in my sentence moron,
I didn't say fuck and shit in all of my post when i was proving a point. Wow man, take it how you want it, i already told you i am not mad. It seems to me you're the one getting upset. Also, i'm not acting like a jerk to anyone who is disagreeing with me. People were simply trying to mock me instead of trying to prove a point. I guess they figured they would upset me, which actually didn't work. Mocking someone is seriously the worst way to try and get a point across. If you got a chance to read my first reply to the first person trying to mock me, you would see that. But instead you run to this guy copy and pasting one quote of mine and off to the races you go.
Now all of a sudden here you come all in defense for one, something that has nothing to do with you, two, your information is also very wrong and lastly three, what does your cocky friend have to do with your argument. I never said i was the smartest person in the state, or Smogon for that matter, to make less a broad island for comparison. I already know i am not. So maybe if your friends or what ever they are to you, would debate back and fourth with me instead of trying to mock me, i wouldn't have to infuriate you with my language that isn't even directed towards you. As CRAZY as that may sound i might add.
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Battle Armor - 44
Chlorophyll - 8
Flash Fire - 4
Heatproof - 5
Intimidate - 4
Leaf Guard - 21
Pressure - 9
Rock Head - 45
Scrappy - 4
Sniper - 10
Solar Power - 12
No Ability - 14
Well depends on your definition of "Bandwagoning" though it's hard to tell who's on the band wagon to begin with.
GJ to Battle Armour and Rock head.
I struggle to convey what is in my head to a conversation IRL. I don't think that the transmission Barrier called the internetis helping anything.
Basicly:
Pressure dosen't fit.
Pressure would be broken, because it gives it the ability to stall far beyond anything OU that has been concived.
Battle armour is not broken, it only works 6.25% of the time, and it stops mindless hax at the end of a battle especially.
Rock head is cool because you can run a Mixed Set or physical set whilst not getting much out of it.
Greenhouse was broken on this thing.
Shock at Leaf Guard's third place.
Even more shock that Rock Head got the most, sorry, primary ability guys.
This thread's been awesome.
Please everyone stop flaming Lil ant. He's too much like me.
Ignore swear words.
Aldaron has logic.
KoA has somehow bribed his way to a badge.
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Aldaron the Green said:
I struggle to convey what is in my head to a conversation IRL. I don't think that the transmission Barrier called the internetis helping anything.
Basicly:
Pressure dosen't fit.
Pressure would be broken, because it gives it the ability to stall far beyond anything OU that has been concived.
Battle armour is not broken, it only works 6.25% of the time, and it stops mindless hax at the end of a battle especially.
Rock head is cool because you can run a Mixed Set or physical set whilst not getting much out of it.
Greenhouse was broken on this thing.
Shock at Leaf Guard's third place.
Even more shock that Rock Head got the most, sorry, primary ability guys.
This thread's been awesome.
Please everyone stop flaming Lil ant. He's too much like me.
Ignore swear words.
Aldaron has logic.
KoA has somehow bribed his way to a badge.
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I simply meant that if any of the other abilities had a chance, everyone who voted for Greenhouse would need to change their vote, since so many voted for Rock Head and Battle Armor to stop Greenhouse.
Please stop flaming Lil Ant? Why? No repercussion will take place of the user doing so. But, as soon as someone complains about what Lil Ant is doing, LIl Ant gets an infraction, how ironic. Also, Mekkah knows what he said is wrong. Me and Aki have nothing in common. My post have logic behind them for one ( no offense Aki ) Meh, let me shut my trap before i offend someone who has nothing to do what this post.
Since when did i say it was a good thing?
I'm so angry, how can you Idiots not realise a democratic vote was just completely screwed?!
All the people who voted for Greenhouse did not repost their votes so their votes are just discounted, how is that fair?!
The Only fair thing to do is to have the vote again, Without Greenhouse being available from the start.
That way, people who come on Smogon once every few days would have time to vote properly rather then being put off by several pages of bickering and mud slinging centred around Lil Ant.
Seriously if you guys give this pokemon Rock Head and Battle Armor based on this poll, you must realise that democracy counts for Nothing in the CAP project.
A poll is completely invalid if halfway through the poll you announce that you're going to discount the votes of some of the people simply because we couldn't decide what should be included in the poll in the first place.
You Need to have another poll with Greenhouse removed.
I guarantee you Rock Head and Battle Armor ONLY WON BECAUSE THE RULES OF THE POLL WERE CHANGED HALFWAY THROUGH.
Be Fair. Do a Fair Poll from scratch instead of screwing this one sideways.
All the people who voted for Greenhouse did not repost their votes so their votes are just discounted, how is that fair?!
The Only fair thing to do is to have the vote again, Without Greenhouse being available from the start.
That way, people who come on Smogon once every few days would have time to vote properly rather then being put off by several pages of bickering and mud slinging centred around Lil Ant.
Seriously if you guys give this pokemon Rock Head and Battle Armor based on this poll, you must realise that democracy counts for Nothing in the CAP project.
A poll is completely invalid if halfway through the poll you announce that you're going to discount the votes of some of the people simply because we couldn't decide what should be included in the poll in the first place.
You Need to have another poll with Greenhouse removed.
I guarantee you Rock Head and Battle Armor ONLY WON BECAUSE THE RULES OF THE POLL WERE CHANGED HALFWAY THROUGH.
Be Fair. Do a Fair Poll from scratch instead of screwing this one sideways.
we removed greenhouse democraticly on this poll http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39875 .
90 people (give or take a few single votes) voted in this poll. 94 people voted in the poll to remove Greenhouse from the list. I think people were generally aware of what happened, not to mention the previous page has about half a dozen posts in it of people changing their votes, and I saw plenty more when I looked back through the thread.
Yeah... if they actually cared they would've changed their vote. It's not like it wasn't made clear what was happening, there was another vote on it, and then they had a chance to change their votes.
If they chose not to, or didn't care enough to, why should we care?
Also, Chronostrike just layed some truth with numbers.
You should care because the ability poll with Greenhouse removed should be null and void due to the skew that it puts on the voting. Battle Armor and Rock Head appear more popular than they would be if the poll was redone.
Actually, Chronostrike laid some clever manipulation of numbers to make it appear that more people voted to remove Greenhouse from the current poll, however that's not the whole of the story. The vote was 'Define a dedicated weather project for next time AND remove Greenhouse from the current ability poll' SO most people were actually probably voting for the dedicated weather project rather than specifically to remove Greenhouse.
That poll should have been: Define a dedicated weather project for next time AND restart the current ability poll with Greenhouse removed.
THEN it would have been a fair and accurate vote.
He's showing that people were aware, that Greenhouse was removed, because 94 people voted on the poll were this was stated. So if anyone cared enough the change his vote, they had the chance.
And while I do agree some people might have voted differently if Greenhouse was out of the picture from the start, it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of this poll. The winning abilities both have atleast a 20+ votes advantage and that's too much to disregard, just because some may have voted differently. Especially after people already had the change to chance their vote. Don't forget this was a bold poll, so if someone only voted on say Rock Head, because of Greenhouse, they could've changed their vote when Greenhouse was removed. Everyone had the opportunity to change their vote, not just the Greenhouse voters. So there's no need for another poll just to give a few people, that were to late with their change, another chance.
Also, if anyone wanted the weather project, but still have Greenhouse on Woodman, he or she could have said so. But I don't believe anyone did.
And while I do agree some people might have voted differently if Greenhouse was out of the picture from the start, it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of this poll. The winning abilities both have atleast a 20+ votes advantage and that's too much to disregard, just because some may have voted differently. Especially after people already had the change to chance their vote. Don't forget this was a bold poll, so if someone only voted on say Rock Head, because of Greenhouse, they could've changed their vote when Greenhouse was removed. Everyone had the opportunity to change their vote, not just the Greenhouse voters. So there's no need for another poll just to give a few people, that were to late with their change, another chance.
Also, if anyone wanted the weather project, but still have Greenhouse on Woodman, he or she could have said so. But I don't believe anyone did.
If it actually mean anything to you, I considered all vote that still had greenhouse in them as "[insert ability name here]/no second ability". To me, that's better than having your entire vote null&voided.
Technically Democracy shouldn't be limited to who cares, you know.
Jagged_Angel is 100% correct; the democratic is severely compromised without a revote.
Note that asking for Greenhouse to be removed is completely different than changing your vote from Greenhouse to something else.
Democracy is never about those who "care" enough to do something...it's purpose is to give everyone an equal opportunity to have their say.
People were given an equal opportunity to remove Greenhouse, yes, but not to vote in this poll. Having a limited amount of time to change their votes is limiting their democratic rights.
Just saying ;P
Jagged_Angel is 100% correct; the democratic is severely compromised without a revote.
Note that asking for Greenhouse to be removed is completely different than changing your vote from Greenhouse to something else.
Democracy is never about those who "care" enough to do something...it's purpose is to give everyone an equal opportunity to have their say.
People were given an equal opportunity to remove Greenhouse, yes, but not to vote in this poll. Having a limited amount of time to change their votes is limiting their democratic rights.
Just saying ;P
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