CAP 35 - Part 11 - Moveset Discussion

[quziel]

Heal Bell's practically a signature move in SV, and given that we've not really pushed for it that hard until recently I don't think it merits inclusion. Curse seems entirely irrelevant to the mon as it'll function, our special attack is simply better than anything we can do physically and like, we're a special wall not Snorlax. I really don't think we need a ton of moves on this mon.

 

[MC Squared]

Are offensive recovery moves like Parabolic Charge on the table?

 

[Reviloja753]

Are offensive recovery moves like Parabolic Charge on the table?

Parabolic Charge is simply too weak a move to function even with Electromorphosis, and our high HP stat makes us particularly ill-suited to abuse it. I wouldn’t consider it a competitive addition here.

To extend this post a bit longer and cover something I forgot to earlier, I think we should just keep our 50% recovery simple and go for Milk Drink. I can see why some may want something like Morning Sun, and I don’t think that it should be disallowed in movepool submissions, but CAP35 doesn’t especially fit on Sun teams for any meaningful difference to exist 99% of the time. Again, I think the sets made by Quziel and I (plus Volt Switch probably) are about all this Pokémon needs for 1.0.

 

[Full_Korbe]

Moveset Submission:
Name: Phazing Wall
Move 1: Discharge
Move 2: Knock Off / Super Fang
Move 3: Roar
Move 4: Milk Drink
Ability: Electromorphosis
Tera Type: Flying
Item: Heavy-Duty Boots
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
Nature: Calm

One move I have not seen in recent discussions is Roar / Whirlwind (Roar is more flavourful with little to no competitive implication) - it was discussed in the Defining Move step but not brought since. I believe it can be a significant addition to CAP35's arsenal, if only because you can scout around and stack hazard damages in combination with Knock Off - especially if the opponent switches on their Ground-type and you force it out (which is even better if Electromorphosis is active)
Both Knock Off and Super Fang are great option with a phazing move to cripple around the enemy team.

I feel it's best to gauge whether or not we want it as an option. I think CAP35 can be successful without it, but it's a genuine niche that we might (or not) allow.

 

[SHSP]

Hey everyone! My apologies for the delay: between the upcoming holiday, my health and some other IRL stuff, I've been a little slow on getting back to this. Thanks for keeping good discussion going in the meantime, and I'm happy to announce our 1.0 movepool:

Required Moves

Thunderbolt
Thunder
Discharge
Wild Charge
Volt Switch
Hyper Voice
Body Slam
Double Edge
Knock Off
Glare
Thunder Wave
Nuzzle
Ice Beam
Super Fang
Milk Drink

Gen 9 Universal Moves

Endure
Facade
Helping Hand
Protect
Rest
Sleep Talk
Substitute
Take Down
Tera Blast

This list I think best captures community consensus and gives us a really solid product for 1.0. Curse, Court Change and a few other moves were left off because they aren't 100% necessary for this 1.0 release and there were some fears about their strength. Thank you to everyone again for their patience and their great discussion- I'm looking forward to seeing how Shox performs!

 

[kenn]

Absolutely love the 1.0 movepool and I am excited af to mess with Shox in the builder as soon as possible!


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