Cute. Because there's so much to go on besides what you resist and what you don't considering that's basically all we have about the pokemon so far?
I was expecting an argument for resists and movepool, not '4x ground weak now it's useless'.
OK, so there's two things that can make a pokemon defensive (three if you want to include movepool, but not so much as the other two). Stats and resistances.
Resistances are important no matter how much you say they aren't. Why are Steel types so popular (it's not JUST because they resist Dragon)? It's because they have a plethora of resistances and because their stats aren't like Mawile's. It helps that for most of them their typing allows them a helpful non-weakness to either Fighting or Ground, two of the most prevelent types in OU.
I agree that Steel types are useful for their resists, and their defensive power would be less without them.
You can be a good defensive pokemon with stats like Blissey. No kidding.
Exactly.
But those stats aren't too great if your typing is shit. Probopass has excellent defensive stats but still sucks because it's typing allows it to be weak to too many common types. Having something hit you SE basically halves your stat capabilities (orly?). So even something with 60/145/150 like Probopass has a horrible stats when halved (Yes I know that the HP isn't great to start with, but it's not horrid either).
Electric/Poison isn't shit typing like Probopass. Do not compare them.
I would go so far as to argue that the reasons both Swampert and Heatran are popular is because they have above average or decent offensive stats.
And this thing won't? We aren't necessarily making a wall. We're making a utility Pokemon. Porygon2 is utility. Tentacruel is utility. Utility != shit offensive stats.
In fact, Heatran would have far less defensive capaiblities is it was say, Fire/Rock instead of Fire/Steel because it loses so many resistances. Swampert is still used because Grass has never been a common type and because having the resistances it does and weaknesses it lacks make it useful
You have a point. However, just like you don't keep Swampert in on Grass moves, you don't keep a 4x Ground weak Pokemon in on Ground moves. In fact, Grass moves are pretty hard to avoid. Everything carries EQ to the point that if a physical sweeper is up against Heatran, and you are not faster/can't OHKO, you know to get it out because practically every one of them that isn't part Fighting carries EQ. Grass, on the other hand, is something that pops up on Zapdos, Gallade, Gengar, and Azelf from time to time; it's pretty hard to know if something has it since not every special sweeper uses it often. It's not really how often it comes up, it's knowing how to avoid it when it does, because it will. EQs are really easy to avoid in comparison.
Yes this is so much better than my posts I see the meaning of life itself now. In all seriousness when did typing matter with movepool outside of Fire pokemon not getting Ice attacks and so on? It's more of the flavor behind the pokemon itself (Clefable) than the typing.
Clefable is a normal typed fairy, and in the realm of Pokemon this means its movepool is amazing. Poison/Steel would be what, a battery? How does a battery use Trick Room? And don't even try to tell me about how it's the concept that matters because typing influences concept in so many ways, especially when that typing is Poison. Psychic, Water, those are the types that can be molded to fit almost anything. Not Poison.
