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Cartoon Network Goes Real

I used to love CN, then they started making all the dumb new stuff and removed the good stuff. Now it's all just garbage. Like once a week they play Ed Edd n Eddy which I'll gladly watch.

oh and adult swim is better than ever, I watch it every night.
 
I think there's a definite bias that people have towards the old shows, because humans have the tendency to resist change and let things stay as they are. Plus, people have tons of great memories watching classic shows while they were growing up, and reliving those memories can be a really cool experience.
That being said, I am definitely happy that theyve started playing Ed Edd and Eddy some more recently. But all the same, I love having new shows to watch with newer, more contemporary styles of humor, and that's why Chowder and Flapjack are two of my favorite shows, even though some of the jokes they make on Chowder are admittedly sub-par.
 
Well theyve changed and im sure it appeals to some people.

Johnny bravo dexters lab and ed ed and eddy were just so damn good.
 
Ancien Régime said:
The old stuff got moved to Boomerang, most households don't get that.
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Comcast doesn't even offer it; you have to subscribe to DirecTV in my state to get Boomerang. Which blows.

I kinda thought that this is where they were going with this- try and get more of a focus off the cartoons and appeal to the 'tweens' or whatever the fuck they're called by appealing to them with stuff that their older siblings or whatever watch. Most of the programming is shit, though; the entire network has gone downhill fast. I mean hell, Flapjack is a great show; it really gives off a bit of a Ren & Stimpy vibe. I'm not fond of Chowder, but it is somewhat charming. The rest is shit. The last 'good' show to bow out was Foster's, and even then, it got pretty bad after ~2-3 episodes after introducing Cheese.

Total Drama Island, i guess, was the primer for this; seeing what people what react to a regular 'reality' show by releasing a spoof of one. I guess it worked out pretty well, though I can't say that this is going to be a step in the right direction by any means. This is Cartoon Network; it's been based off of the unwritten slogan 'all cartoons all the time'. I seriously want to kick the moneyloving executive who invented this in the balls. It's sheer idiocy. It won't work long term, I assure you.

edit On the subject of Adult Swim; they've gotten somewhat better, they've attracted some bigger names by recruiting Futurama for awhile and I guess they got King of the Hill and Family Guy too. The real gems, though, lie in the later stuff- 1-2 am, Tim and Eric, The Mighty Boosh (BBC crossover; anyone remember Old Gregg?), and Squidbillies.

edit2 anyone else have a boyhood crush on bubbles from powerpuff girls? xD
 
Ancien Régime said:
The problem with CN is three fold.

In my view, it's prime was 1999-2004. This was built on three pillars.

- The older Hanna & Barbera and WB classics.
- The Gennedy Tartaovsky stuff (Dexter, PPG, Cow and Chicken)
- Anime, with DBZ as its backbone.

One can add Adult Swim, which was brilliantly timed to appear just when the original DBZ watchers were hitting their teen years.

What happened?

The old stuff got moved to Boomerang, most households don't get that.
Tartaovsky's stuff really started to go downhill, and the old popular series slowly died (hey, instead of making more flapjack, or EEE, make more dexter and johnny bravo)
The anime-watchers discovered 4chan and torrent/ddl sites. In addition, CN started shuffling the lineups, making it hard on casual watchers. This is unimaginably dumb - hardcores will go online and download subbed anime, and casuals will not stay up to 2:00 to watch Code Geass.

Now, only the last one was out of their control (though there is no reason why they can't still get younger kids with DBZ and other animes, which, at least when I was younger, was almost universally preferred to Western action shows, even among the kids that were not destined to go weeaboo), and you can still get nostalgia with old shows.

Right now, they're trying to follow the Nick/Disney model of appealing to the popular, tween set, when, from a business standpoint, they need to do the exact opposite - they are moving into a horribly saturated market, and they will likely lose. They need to go niche - they need to become the channel of geeks, gamers and future weeaboos - a market that they will control from ages 9-14 at least, until these kids figure out how to get this stuff online. Emphasize gaming, sponsor tournaments, don't have teen/tween celebs ever, and command 100% market share.
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pretty much sums up my views...

Reality shows aren't that bad of an idea but.... I haven't actually seen any of them yet and any more than like three is too much.

I really miss the days of dexter, johnny bravo, power puff girls, and cow and chicken. Maybe its just nostalgia, but they were some the best shows to this day. Not to mention DBZ, which was pretty much my life for a couple years when it first came out.

I can't really say much about the new shows, cause I don't watch them (except Batman: the brave and the bold), but they just don't seem as genuinely entertaining, and they are definitely dumber.

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moot said:
edit2 anyone else have a boyhood crush on bubbles from powerpuff girls? xD
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yea kinda lol
I loved the rowdy ruff boys episodes though, and Mojo Jojo was the shit
 
I liked CN as a kid, but I feel like the idea of filling the network with a lot of reality shows is a sort of cheap cop-out. After all, reality shows are much cheaper to produce than other shows. I guess it's a sad trend, but one that can't really be stopped.
 
I watched a lot of CN in 2003, one year where my family had pay TV. Ed, Edd and Eddy was a great show, so was Dexter's Lab. They were screening Pokemon Johto too. CN has gone downhill - I was at my cousin's house and the new shoes suck ass.
 
The erratic schedule changes were what annoyed me most about CN.

For example the sort of blatant and unexpected hashing of Naruto and Samurai Jack from their lineups. Their lineup just has a sort of irresponsible discontinuity.

Same thing when they stopped airing DBZ. DBZ is staple, and has more than enough arcs to be run in a continuous loop indefinitely.

I could never get into reality-TV level Ren and Stimpy shit like Tim & Eric/Mighty Boosh. It's like a poorly executed, more vulgar bastardization of Monty Python.

Batman the Brave and the Bold is decent despite Batman tending to be more of a loner in most other depictions of him. They do seem to have an overarching story arc but a lot of it seems like background on less well known characters in the comic universe. Green Arrow is Batman's greatest rival? What?

I never got Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Only DD had the remotest of character depth. I know it's a cartoon, but come on.
 
Deck Knight said:
The erratic schedule changes were what annoyed me most about CN.

For example the sort of blatant and unexpected hashing of Naruto and Samurai Jack from their lineups. Their lineup just has a sort of irresponsible discontinuity.

Same thing when they stopped airing DBZ. DBZ is staple, and has more than enough arcs to be run in a continuous loop indefinitely.

I could never get into reality-TV level Ren and Stimpy shit like Tim & Eric/Mighty Boosh. It's like a poorly executed, more vulgar bastardization of Monty Python.

Batman the Brave and the Bold is decent despite Batman tending to be more of a loner in most other depictions of him. They do seem to have an overarching story arc but a lot of it seems like background on less well known characters in the comic universe. Green Arrow is Batman's greatest rival? What?

I never got Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Only DD had the remotest of character depth. I know it's a cartoon, but come on.
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Yeah, I know, I never got what people saw in Ed, Ed, and Eddy. Idk, if people here think Spongebob is based on stupidity, then I know how in the hell they could sit through Ed, Ed, and Eddy. Dexter's Lab, though, was fucking GOLD.

Yeah, tbh, the only show I watch now is Batman: the Brave and the Bold. I've been an avid comics fan since I was a child, and I love the Golden Age style that the show portrays. I also love how they let Batman team up with one of my favorite DC heroes (Batman actually being the first), Ted Kord.
 
I've been watching Cartoon Network since it premiered and I think a lot of people are posting based on nostalgia rather than trying to give objective reviews (though I'll admit everyone will have at least some bias).

Cartoon Network still chugs along with some quality animation, but as for this reality stuff... if they want to introduce something to shake things up, that's fine: but I don't want 10-15 shows on. Personally, I wanted to draw the line at Total Drama Island simply because it reminded me of reality.
 
I miss Courage The Cowardly dog, as well as Ed, Edd and Eddy, PowerPuff girls, etc.

I leave to Canada for four years and I come back to a shitty CN. Why D:?
 
Dude, cartoon network sucks now. I mean really, it's like all of a sudden they run out of ideas on what to show, and cut all the awesome shows from toonami, and change them to this "reality" crap. :/ Why in this world to they want to turn themselves into the Disney channel? I've NEVER liked that channel; all it is, is a bunch of dramatic crap. I don't know about you guys, but I like watching the animation in shows. Art is what has, and always will draw me to anime more than any other show. I used to sit in front of the TV from 8:00 - 10:30 watching naruto, zatch bell, then one piece. (even the crap one piece wasn't as bad as naruto filler got... but I still watched them both for the art.) They're just asking to go off air entirely.
 
Chowder and Flapjack are rather excellent, though a lot of their other current programming tires after a while. Prefer older cartoons such as Sheep In The Big City, the first two series' of Ed Edd n Eddy and Courage the Cowardly Dog anyway.

Seeing as the UK doesn't have an Adult Swim on Cartoon Network (Bravo? Nobody watches Bravo) and it's only on from midnight onward, I've been downloading Aqua Teen Hunger Force and the like from the Internet...but apart from the aforementioned cartoons in general aren't very good nowadays.
 
I was channel surfing the other day, and something caught my eye on Cartoon Network. It was the very end of a trailer for something, so I didn't get a good look at it, but I'm sure it was advertising a live action Scooby Doo series.

What.

The live action movies are one thing, but they've got actors and a CG Scooby Doo, and they're making a TV series. On Cartoon Network. They're taking CARTOONS and turning them into REALITY. Having new live action shows is one thing, but taking old cartoons, and rehashing them to be live action, that's just something else entirely.
 
DragonDude said:
It's better then Flapjack and whatever is one now.
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No it really wasn't. Now the dub is actually good because Funimation took over. However when 4kids was in control they literally made the show as horrendous as possible. Shitty voices, horrible fake-sounding accents, cutting out important scenes, and poor editing.

Also the fact that you used "it's" instead of "it was" makes me think that you are confusing the current Funimation dub with the old 4kids dub. Here is how to tell the difference. Does Usopp sound like a retard, or does he sound like Krillin from Dragon Ball Z?
 
100kvolts said:
No it really wasn't. Now the dub is actually good because Funimation took over. However when 4kids was in control they literally made the show as horrendous as possible. Shitty voices, horrible fake-sounding accents, cutting out important scenes, and poor editing.

Also the fact that you used "it's" instead of "it was" makes me think that you are confusing the current Funimation dub with the old 4kids dub. Here is how to tell the difference. Does Usopp sound like a retard, or does he sound like Krillin from Dragon Ball Z?
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That used to be a gun.
 
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