Shouldn't Lugia also be banned? Abstain isn't DNB, its an exclusion from the results.Okay so while it has only been a little over a day since CS got its ladder, the council has already noticed some major threats that we took a vote on so without further ado, here is the result of those votes!
zastra Tea Guzzler Velcroc kenn Result BAN Abstain Abstain BAN 2-0-2 No Ban
Physical sun looks pretty viable to me. Physical weather ball coming from gouging fire and guts flareon if you're daring, eruption from entei and not to mention chlorophyll sweepers like leafeon getting a better movepool now. Unfortunate that you lose some of the best sun abusers like walking wake and raging bolt.
/chall categoryswap @@@ stabmonsmod, rule2 etc (or as a rule, /chall base format @@@ rule1, rule2 etc (you can see the list using /battlerules)
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No, you go to someone's PMs and type that in.
is. It is extremely bulky, has decent coverage, and the teams I made featuring 
and 
pushes it over the edge.
aims to capitalize on raising its Defense upon switch in, then getting Special Defense boosts later. This pairs well with a common mon in 
, which sets up Grassy Terrain for Lugia. Since is used up under terrain, it is helpful against Poltergeist users like 
and 
. Tera Steel is used to gain a great defensive typing and to avoid getting poisoned by mons such as 
and 
. Acrobatics and Earthquake are great coverage options, hitting most mons for neutral damage. Against mons such as 
, just straight up sets up on it. The speed is for Timid/Jolly base 70s while aiming to outspeed most .
aims to do the opposite of what does, which is get a Special Defense boost on switching while aiming to boost its Defense later. Unfortunately, is not as good due to being forced to use 
for Misty Terrain, and having to use Curse which lowers your speed. Speaking of which, the speed EVs are to still outspeed base 20s such as and 
at -5 Speed, and to outspeed base 35s such as 
and 
at -3 Speed, to hit all of them with Psychic Noise. Psychic Noise is chose simply to deny recovery, which can be useful for mons who can heal on . Thunderbolt is used over Earth Power for the mirror and most importantly to hit 
.
(which affects Multiscale), can still snowball out of control with all of the boosts it gets, even without Stored Power. Mons that can give these sets trouble are Toxic mons such as and , Unaware mons such as and (except for Psychic Noise situations), or phasers such as Dragon Tail 
, Roar 
, and I actually ran into a Perish Song 
that gave me trouble lol should get a ban thank you for my Ted TalkLeaf Storm has no flexible users outside of Meowscarada, and Tera Blast turns into a physical or special attack depending on the higher stat, which is converted into a special or physical attack by the category swap. This causes Tera Blast to always use the weaker stat after Terastalizing.
This appears to have been overlooked, if I'm not mistaken?
the reasoning i got in dms was that its still not 60% majority overall, which i dont believe is how it works but a lugia vote is due again soon
Of the mons I tried, I found Palafin to not quite fit for my team, or do much really, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It loses Jet Punch, which is bad for it, but it instead gets physical Boomburst. With a team that has some reasonable composition, I feel like this mon could shine. That team is not mine, however.
Ok, so imagine you take a notorious Serene Grace flincher, but make it use its worse attacking stat, but it's base 103 and the mon gets Swords Dance. That's Shaymin Sky. It does need the power boost from Swords Dance to actually break through teams, and 388 speed isn't that much in a world where Dragapult and Chien-Pao exist, but with the right support (aka not my team and not my luck) it is annoying.
The only difference between this mon normally and this mon here is that its main stab is 30bp higher and 30 accuracy lower. It doesn't get ice beam, so you're going to miss Blizzard. If you don't by some miracle, you're going to kill the thing in front of you. Oh uh by the way your only coverage moves are Hex and Tera Blast.
Running SR/Twave/ID/BP, I've 6-0'd rain with this thing twice on ladder (imagine not having any special non-water moves) and maybe thunderwaved one thing. It's not a bad rock setter. Electro Shot feels like it is not worth running, since it's a 2-turn move that boosts an attacking stat you probably aren't using. It is probably better in rain than with my set, but it's not like I'm going to run rain and figure out how it is actually.
Not an uber, but having physical volt switch is so nice. I think this is the best rapid spinner in the meta because of that volt switch, although it can't really touch ghosts. (I just wanted an excuse to hype my boi up.
| zastra | kenn | Tea Guzzler | Velcroc | Final Verdict | |
| Dragapult | BAN | ABS | DNB | DNB | DNB (1-2-1) |
| Roaring Moon | DNB | BAN | ABS | DNB | DNB (1-2-1) |
| Terastallization | DNB / DNS | SUSPECT | SUSPECT | SUSPECT | SUSPECT |
Why is lucario trash? Also Pelipper can get easily bodied by a strong neutral hit from gholdengo or any competent special attacker.
Lucario is too slow and is simply a worse Blaziken/Keldeo. Also, Pelipper does not have to stay in and try to tank a hit. It is just that it is able to switch into moves much more comfortably with having its primary weaknesses nearly gone.
They don't?
