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Attention: I need more people to join, so please do if you have the time and energy. If no more people join I might just do it myself.

Shelcario - That's the spirit, lolz. :) Also, don't start quite yet, you can keep SR'ing for now, I don't want people to start until I've got my final group of participants.
 
This is a theory on Serebii, but I just tested this now, and I think it works...


4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4

{#} refers to a regular patch, no Flashing of any Kind...

{#} refers to a Glowing, and/or Flashing Patch

The theory is called the "4 Zone Glowing Patch" and the theory is, that when a formation like this, or any other sequence in which all of the other patches except for number 4 are regular, it is a 100% chance to continue your chain if you go into the 4th rung patch. I've tested it, and it's worked every time, so keep your eyes peeled...
 
Diesel said:
Attention: I need more people to join, so please do if you have the time and energy. If no more people join I might just do it myself.

Shelcario - That's the spirit, lolz. :) Also, don't start quite yet, you can keep SR'ing for now, I don't want people to start until I've got my final group of participants.
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Well that's good news, for now any way I did a little research of that 3 away in a line with the 4 away and it was successful 3 times and only failed once out of the 4 times I tested it. It broke when I was chaining Ralts and the 1 and 2 away were in a line with each other, chain broke at 1. But all the other times I tested it the 1 and 2 away weren't in a line with one another.
 
I looked at your Buddy Patches, and I have something to prove about Line Patches and Buddy Patches.

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpos...ostcount=10051

Scroll all the way to the bottom, for my "Smile Patch" and you'll get a formation that included line patches and Buddy Patches, all in one.

This one, I got chaining Flaafy(which is taking forever for the shiny patch to appear). It is an example of Diagonal Buddy Patches, much like the Smile Formation.


4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4

See how 3 and 4 are connected Diagonally? After multiple times of entering the same sort of formation, I concur that it is safe to enter. I'm pretty sure this is safe, but I'll test further...

4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4

If a regular one and a glowing one are diagonal like that, it sometimes breaks your chain, sometimes doesn't, so I dub this one unsafe for now...

4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 1 1 1 2 3 4
4 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 4
4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4

When 3 and 4 are connected horizontally, it is unsafe as it almost always breaks your chain. I think this is because they might switch probabilities of the Pokemon being there or something, I need to look into it more, but I don't enter these any more...
Hope I helped with the Buddy theory, and this time, I looked at what you had posted in the OP;).
 
Actually I've entered many of those 3 horizontally to 4 patch formations and its' only broken my chain once. Didn't know about the 3 and 4 diagonal safeness, thanks for that. I also knew of the smile pattern but only encountered it once.
 
Shelcario said:
Actually I've entered many of those 3 horizontally to 4 patch formations and its' only broken my chain once. Didn't know about the 3 and 4 diagonal safeness, thanks for that. I also knew of the smile pattern but only encountered it once.
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That's odd, it usually breaks mine... But you're welcome about the Diagonal safeness, it rarely breaks the chain. And the Smile Formation is odd and rare, but the 4th rung patch is the way to go...
 
I would be glad to help with this research. I tried chaining after reading the guide on Serebii, and failed horribly. After I read your guide I am now able to chain anything that is chainable (except in the stupid sandstorm). I have well over 40 shiny larvitars, along with many ralts and cubones. Actually after I got too good at chaining it got boring so the only time I chain is for dittos. However I would be glad to help. If you could PM me when it begins with a link back to the thread? Thanks alot.
 
Pimplup said:
That's odd, it usually breaks mine... But you're welcome about the Diagonal safeness, it rarely breaks the chain. And the Smile Formation is odd and rare, but the 4th rung patch is the way to go...
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Yeah if the 1 and 2 away aren't connected or in a line w/ one another the 4 away's chance increases if the 1 or 2 away is of the opposite shaking patch type. It's really safe if both 1 and 2 away are of opposite shaking type and the 3 and 4 away are of same and horizontal and not in a line w/ another patch.
 
Shelcario said:
Yeah if the 1 and 2 away aren't connected or in a line w/ one another the 4 away's chance increases if the 1 or 2 away is of the opposite shaking patch type. It's really safe if both 1 and 2 away are of opposite shaking type and the 3 and 4 away are of same and horizontal and not in a line w/ another patch.
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Yeah, I notice the relationships of patches on almost every chain, it's very interesting IMO...
 
Yeah, there might be even more safe patch formations that haven't even been found yet.

EDIT: Also, Pimplup for that diagonal formation do all the patches have to be of the same shaking type?
 
Shelcario said:
Yeah, there might be even more safe patch formations that haven't even been found yet.

EDIT: Also, Pimplup for that diagonal formation do all the patches have to be of the same shaking type?
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I don't think so, I just saw this one in my chain, so I used it as an example;). I'm pretty sure it still works.
 
I've also, I forgot to mention, entered many of those diagonal patch formations and they are pretty safe and have only broken my patch once.
 
All 3 of what Pimplup posted have broken my chains multiple times so now I just avoid them. The 3 basically HAS to be at least not touching in any way including diagonally.
 
forbidden said:
All 3 of what Pimplup posted have broken my chains multiple times so now I just avoid them. The 3 basically HAS to be at least not touching in any way including diagonally.
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The 2nd and 3rd ones are supposed to break your chain, but the 1st o_0?? What was the formation??
 
Actually the 3rd one I've tested many times hardly breaks your chain, only broke my chain once. As for the first one i've entered those to and its' also only broken my chain once. Sorry if I'm repeating myself in these posts:(
 
Pimplup said:
I looked at your Buddy Patches, and I have something to prove about Line Patches and Buddy Patches.
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First, you didn't prove anything by telling me this. You can't just say "it never broke my chain once," that doesn't mean anything. You have to prove it by testing if you want me to look twice at it. Second, you were chaining Snubbull. Third, I can basically guarantee you all those formations are bad, unless you're chaining a swarm. But yea, if you want to, go test them on a Pokeradar pokemon or ADV insert or something then I'll listen and probably be less irritated too, lol.

Furthermore, forbidden is right. All of those formations are bunching, the 3-away should never be touching the 4-away diagonally or adjacently. Good luck finding one that works. That's in the guide, and I'm pretty sure of it.

Sorry for being a dick, but this is really not going as planned, and all this speculation isn't even remotely productive. I posted this from the beginning to avoid this:

Diesel said:
Please post any other suggestions or hypotheses, but make sure you've had success with them so you don't end up wasting everyone's time with them.
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Still want more sign ups!!
 
I guess i could sign up if you need more people, i'm half decent at chaining.

for your formations, are specific patches necessary?
(ie: can they be rotated, are all of them very specific, and how specific are they?)
 
I've tested that 3 in a line w/ 4 away and its' been successful 4 out of the 5 times I've tested it. Only broke once because I'm guessing because the 1 and 2 aways were in a line w/ one another and it was Ralts.
 
Diesel said:
First, you didn't prove anything by telling me this. You can't just say "it never broke my chain once," that doesn't mean anything. You have to prove it by testing if you want me to look twice at it. Second, you were chaining Snubbull. Third, I can basically guarantee you all those formations are bad, unless you're chaining a swarm. But yea, if you want to, go test them on a Pokeradar pokemon or ADV insert or something then I'll listen and probably be less irritated too, lol.

Furthermore, forbidden is right. All of those formations are bunching, the 3-away should never be touching the 4-away diagonally or adjacently. Good luck finding one that works. That's in the guide, and I'm pretty sure of it.

Sorry for being a dick, but this is really not going as planned, and all this speculation isn't even remotely productive. I posted this from the beginning to avoid this:



Still want more sign ups!!
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LOL, first off, I did test it, 2nd, I was chaining Ralts when doing this, not Snubbull...

Anyways, I see where you are coming from, you're not a dick, so no worries xP. I've already tested it, but I'll test it 1,000 more times if you want me to, and then I'll shut my mouth if I'm wrong, but if I'm right....;).
 
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