Why would you need to bluff for flash fire anyway, its a fire type to christs sake.
Snorlax would probably work fineOK so I need a counter to this thing now, I'm thinking snorlax or something. (Yes I know it can't be countered but I need something that it can't do shit against)
Porygon2. End of Story.OK so I need a counter to this thing now, I'm thinking snorlax or something. (Yes I know it can't be countered but I need something that it can't do shit against)
QFT. SubSplit Chandy eats Chansey for breakfast.I can't believe this guy is UU now...
Agreed. Singlehandedly it can take out entire Sun teams by using HP Ground and Fire Blast. Sun sweepers move, especially Sawsbuck, are resisted by Chandelure and she can easily 1 KO them.I can't believe this guy is UU now...
Even without Pain Split, Chansey without Shadow Ball, Water Pulse or Calm Mind(99% of them) is PP Stalled against Sub Chandelure.QFT. SubSplit Chandy eats Chansey for breakfast.
It must not be just like this. It must be like in DS.It doesn't work that way on PO since the button to switch is automatically greyed out against ST Chandy...
Well, the calm mind set is great in OU. If you're worried about getting walled by something, I'd use the substitute set so you can't get hit by toxic. However, you'll have to give up something (probably HP fighting).what's the best set for this guy now? In OU? UU?
Chansey, blissey, porygon2, snorlax. The list goes on!Calm Mind sets suffer a brutal 4-slot syndrome, that's why I avoid it. Even after all these months, Flame Charge / HP Fighting / Shadow Ball / Fire Blast is still my favorite set, hands down.
Oh, look. The SubCM set beats all of those(well, except Snorlax).Chansey, blissey, porygon2, snorlax. The list goes on!
This should be cp'ed into the analysis Overview section.You know, I can describe Chandelure in 3 words: be.... our.... guest.
See, this is sorta like what Kefka said, though. I can think of a few dozen Scarfed 'mons who are absurdly good sweepers at +6. That's not really unique to Chandy. :/After testing, I can confirm the usefulness of choice scarf Chandelure in UU along side Tail Glow pass Volbeat as a cleaner. Assuming two tail glows (i.e., your opponent really screws up) Chandelure hits 1700 special attack.
I didn't realize Flame Body made you immune to Fire :OKefka, what exactly is Chandelure going to do Porygon2? It's immune to both STABs...
You're very correct, but RP Torterra has many counters and checks, while SubCM Chandy's counters in OU are:I don't mean to diss Chandy, but isn't this the case for just about any sweeper? If I can get rid of all of my opponent's checks to Rock Polish Torterra, it can be very deadly too.
....if the wall can't hit you back, then it's forced out or is made useless by wasting all its PP. It's coverage is just fine actually. Fire - Ghost is enough to hit most things in OU and Chandy can actually run any move it's team needs: Energy ball for Water types, HP Fighting for T-tar, HP Ice for Dragons(if you run Scarf or whatever), or HP Ground if Heatran really is that bothersome.IMO, using Chandelure as a wallbreaker is using it wrong, as there are better Pokemon for that. It can't touch Blissey/Chansey (and Porygon2) regardless, and its coverage movepool leaves a lot to be desired. If I wanted to smash walls, I'd just use Hydreigon or Haxorus, who have better coverage and are faster and are bulkier. Yes, the Sub set allows it to beat checks, but that's "check-hitting", not "wall-breaking".
Scarf/Specs just make you pursuit bait.So, what's the most useful set for this in OU?
Pursuit makes you Terrakion set-up.Scarf/Specs just make you pursuit bait.
Calm Mind is outsped and killed.
Flame Charge and Substitute require a lot of prediction.
Maybe I'll try Sub Calm Mind... Shadow Ball and Fire Blast as the two attacking moves?Pursuit makes you Terrakion set-up.
Calm Mind has it's Substitute broken as it WTFBBQSAUCE pwns whatever is in front of it.
Flame Charge requires Heatran and T-tar to be gone.
Substitute REMOVES the prediction.
I use Flamethrower + Shadow Ball, but you can use Hidden Power over Flamethrower if you want.Maybe I'll try Sub Calm Mind... Shadow Ball and Fire Blast as the two attacking moves?