Can I vote Rowan now? what a genious lol
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Project Counter that Threat! 21st Week: Snover - Counters Submissions
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Ferroseed (M) @ Eviolite
Ability: Iron Barbs
Level: 5
EVs: 84 HP / 36 Atk / 188 Def / 148 SpD / 36 Spe
Careful Nature
- Bullet Seed
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Leech Seed
Ferroseed resists chinchou's stabs, takes very little from hp ground and can tank ice beam fairly easily. In return, bullet seed will always ko with 3 hits.
Calcs:
232+ SpA Chinchou Ice Beam vs. 84 HP / 148+ SpD Ferroseed: 6-8 (27.2 - 36.3%) -- 59.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
36 Atk Ferroseed Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Chinchou: 24-36 (100 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
36 Atk Ferroseed Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Chinchou: 24-36 (100 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Wynaut @ Berry Juice
Ability: Shadow Tag
Level: 5
EVs: 84 HP / 212 Def / 212 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Counter
- Safeguard (filler)
- Encore
- Mirror Coat
This is a very underrated poke that lives every hit from chinchou, gets the berry juice recovery if necessary and just uses Mirror Coat. It's so easy.
Ability: Shadow Tag
Level: 5
EVs: 84 HP / 212 Def / 212 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Counter
- Safeguard (filler)
- Encore
- Mirror Coat
This is a very underrated poke that lives every hit from chinchou, gets the berry juice recovery if necessary and just uses Mirror Coat. It's so easy.
Lileep @ Eviolite
Ability: Storm Drain
Level: 5
EVs: 68 HP / 140 Def / 188 SpA / 60 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Giga Drain
- Recover
- Ancient Power
Lileep has the great traits of resisting both of Chinchou's STABs. In fact, switching Lileep into Chinchou is often opportune, due to Storm Drain. This is the set I use, which makes Lileep a potent supporter/bulky semi-attacker. The only thing Lileep has to fear is Ice Beam, but provided you aren't switching into it (a truly great prediction) you'll be fine. Even Ice Beam, however, fails to 2HKO 87.9% of the time after Stealth Rock:
228+ SpA Chinchou Ice Beam vs. 176 HP / 60 SpD Eviolite Lileep: 10-12 (40 - 48%) -- 12.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
(10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12)
188+ SpA Lileep Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Chinchou: 24-30 (100 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 30)
Now, once you're in, you can do a whole four things: go straight for the OHKO with Giga Drain, predict the switch and put up Rocks, predict and Recover, or predict and Ancient Power (fairly rare, indeed). Overall, Lileep is a solid answer to our newly-S-Rank friend.
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Rowan
Good Morgan, because sharing the love back, Lileep's durability, and utility.
while goldeen is probably the best counter, ill vote lileep due to being more viable
The TurtleLord and his Ferroseed.
I was originally going to vote Ferroseed, but then I remembered Goldeen outspeeds Modest Chinchou, which means Chinchou actually has to straight up switch or get crippled hard. That and I fucking love Goldeen. So Rowan it is.
On a side note, thank you to all the people that submitted entries this week for not submitting Chinchou itself as a counter. It's appreciated.
On a side note, thank you to all the people that submitted entries this week for not submitting Chinchou itself as a counter. It's appreciated.
Rowan
