Also you're presumably going to be running Lonely with minimal defense IVs to exploit Beast Boost.
So unless you're using a fully physically defensive Stakataka (why) Body Press will generally be much weaker than Superpower.
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Also you're presumably going to be running Lonely with minimal defense IVs to exploit Beast Boost.
So unless you're using a fully physically defensive Stakataka (why) Body Press will generally be much weaker than Superpower.
Superpower will only be better on the first turn. on the long-run, Body Press is more reliable.
With a Lonely nature Superpower will do 260 damage over three turns, Body Press will do 240.
Unless you're running a physically defensive spread Superpower is usually going to be better.
252+ Atk Stakataka Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 172-204 (48.8 - 57.9%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
-1 252+ Atk Stakataka Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 116-138 (32.9 - 39.2%) -- 9.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Meanwhile...
0- Def Stakataka Body Press vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 116-138 (32.9 - 39.2%) -- 9.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
This is using a Lonely Nature
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Only on the third hit will Superpower be weaker and it's still doing more damage overall.
But that said Stakataka gets Heat Crash now which probably hits everything that Superpower would. Stone Edge / Gyro Ball / Heat Crash / Trick Room or Earthquake?
Who's the biggest movepool loser over the past 24 hours? My vote is Koko but Lele is a close second.
Lele didn't really lose though, it's still really solid and Expanding Force would have just made it broken.
But, the ones that do have Eruption are no longer locked into a Quiet nature.Is this the place where I complain that of all the pokemon getting former event moves as regular moves...
HEATRAN DID NOT GET ERUPTION
Exactly. For in-game purposes it's unfortunate, but Showdown still gets eruption tran. poggers
Well, I mean, I have my faithful eruptran carried over by previous gens, and yes I am glad I can change its nature but... still irks me it didn't get.
Let's be honest Eruption would not even used competitively since unless you scarf him he's still relatively slow, but it was a pretty cool stuff to do in battle facilities :(
Minor correction, but this technically doesn't include the entire dex: It simply only contains the new Crown Tundra mons. You might be confusing it with the list I made.
not to undermine sb879 but I just wanted to point this out in case it was an accident.
Entei has had Extreme Speed for ages by this point, but I’m glad it’s no longer event-locked thanks to the DLC. It’s now VGC-legal, and with the ability patch giving it Inner Focus, Entei will be Intimidate-immune. Really happy for my fire doge.
tapus are only fully-powered in Alola ;)
Probably Koko or Bulu. Lele is still going to be amazing...expanding force would have just made people want to ban it. Koko lost rising voltage and play rough so that hurts with the terrain nerf. Bulu still gets a lot (CC, DL, and HH) so losing Play Rough isn't huge, but not getting Grassy Glide really sucks. He was poised to be an arguably better Rillaboom, but now who knows how things will go.
And here's a full list of how the home leak compairs to the final dlc release for new moves. Green means that it was added since the Home data dump. Red means that it was removed. Blue means that it's a new level up or egg move (which wasn't covered in the leaks). Like my last list, I'll list the lowest evolution stage that they can learn the new move:
- Sand Tomb, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Hex, High Horsepower, Body Press - Scorching Sands
- Sand Tomb, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Hex, High Horsepower, Body Press - Scorching Sands
- Assurance, Agility, Crunch, Dual Wingbeat
- Hex, Hurricane
- Charm, Draining Kiss (only Smoochum has this as a new move), Encore, Stored Power
- Icicle Spear, Psycho Cut, Psychic Terrain, Future Sight - Expanding Force, Triple Axel
- Charge
- Uproar , Rising Voltage
- Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat
- Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move)
- Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Weather Ball, Mystical Fire
- Sand Attack, Meteor Beam
- Crunch, Pin Missile, Liquidation
- Leach Life, Stone Edge (only Kabuto has this as a new move), Liquidation (only Kabuto has this as a new move), Rock Blast - Meteor Beam
- Psycho Cut, Cross Poison, Razor Shell - Flip Turn
- Rock Blast, Dragon Dance, Hurricane, Psychic Fangs - Dual Wingbeat, Meteor Beam
- Weather Ball, Icicle Spear, Air Slash, Brave Bird - Dual Wingbeat, Triple Axel
- Hail, Weather Ball, Eerie Impulse, Air Slash, Baton Pass, Brave Bird, Hurricane - Dual Wingbeat, Rising Voltage
- Gust, Incinerate, Weather Ball, Mystical Fire, Flare Blitz, Brave Bird - Burning Jealousy, Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
- Giga Impact (only Dratini has this as a new move), Fire Spin, Breaking Swipe, Hydro Pump -Scale Shot
- Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Air Slash - Body Press, Dual Wingbeat
- Assurance, Agility, Crunch, Dual Wingbeat
- Hex, Hurricane
- Charm, Draining Kiss (only Smoochum has this as a new move), Encore, Stored Power
- Icicle Spear, Psycho Cut, Psychic Terrain, Future Sight - Expanding Force, Triple Axel
- Charge
- Uproar , Rising Voltage
- Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat
- Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move)
- Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Weather Ball, Mystical Fire
- Extreme Speed (previously event-only), Charge, Howl, Helping Hand, Electric Terrain, Eerie Impulse, Agility, Scald, Aura Sphere (previously event-only), Weather Ball (previously event-only) - Rising Voltage
- Extreme Speed (previously event-only), Smokescreen, Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Crunch, Helping Hand, Weather Ball, Agility, Reversal, Flare Blitz (previously event-only) - Scorching Sands
- Crunch, Helping Hand, Weather Ball, Agility, Liquidation, Air Slash (previously event-only)
- Mist, Helping Hand, Imprison, Air Slash, Hurricane (previously event-only) - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
- Life Dew, Burn Up, Fire Spin, Swift, Helping Hand, Imprison, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Flare Blitz - Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
- Leafage, Slash, Night Slash (only Treecko has this as a new move), Assurance - Grassy Glide
- Solar Blade
- Cross Poison, Breaking Swipe, Dragon Dance - Scale Shot
- Detect, Flare Blitz (only Torchic has this as a new move), Assurance
- Blaze Kick (only Combusken has this as a new move), Revenge - Coaching
- U-turn, Close Combat, Aura Sphere, Heat Crash - Scorching Sands
- Supersonic, Amnesia, Screech
- Sand Tomb
- Bulk Up, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower, Liquidation, Body Press - Flip Turn
- Body Press - Steel Roller
- Sand Tomb, Rock Blast
- Scary Face, Hydro Pump, Crunch, High Horsepower, Swift - Meteor Beam
- Dragon Breath (only Swablu has this as a new move), False Swipe - Dual Wingbeat
- Fire Spin, Hurricane - Breaking Swipe
- Rock Blast, Liquidation, Body Press, Iron Defense - Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
- Mud Shot, Rock Blast - Grassy Glide, Meteor Beam
- Leech Seed, Dig, Grassy Terrain, Power Whip
- Mud Shot - Meteor Beam
- Shadow Claw
- Focus Energy, Air Slash, Close Combat
- Steel Roller
- Icicle Spear
- Swords Dance, Hydro Pump, Heavy Slam, Liquidation, Body Press
- Iron Defense (only Bagon has this as a new move) - Scale Shot
- Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Hurricane - Dual Wingbeat
- Tackle
- Self-Destruct, Psycho Cut, Cosmic Power - Expanding Force, Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
- Brutal Swing, Body Press
- Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Sand Tomb, Rock Blast, Flash Cannon, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Meteor Beam
- Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Icicle Spear, Heavy Slam
- Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Sand Tomb, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
- Confusion, Psycho Cut, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Agility, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Future Sight, Dragon Dance, Aura Sphere - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
- Confusion, Simple Beam, Psycho Cut, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Agility, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Future Sight, Aura Sphere - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
- Heavy Slam
- Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, High Horsepower - Scorching Sands
- Hurricane, Breaking Swipe, Hydro Pump, Cosmic Power - Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
- Night Shade, Payback, Hex, Phantom Force - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Poltergeist
- Bite, Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
- Breaking Swipe, Dragon Dance still no
- Charge
- Rising Voltage
- Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat
- Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move)
- Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Weather Ball, Mystical Fire
- Psybeam, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Nasty Plot, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force
- Psybeam, Flatter, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Nasty Plot, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force
- Psybeam, Self-Destruct, Assurance, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force
- Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Scale Shot
- Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
- Metal Claw, Self-Destruct, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, Body Press - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller
- Pound, Stomp, Hammer Arm, Mega Punch (was an exclusive lv.1 move in Diamond/Pearl), Mega Kick, Rest, Protect, Body Slam, Endure, Heat Crash, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower, Body Press - Terrain Pulse
- Phantom Force, Breaking Swipe, Body Slam - Dual Wingbeat, Poltergeist
- Psybeam, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Body Slam, Cosmic Power, Stored Power - Expanding Force
- V-create (previously event-only), Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Fire Spin, Swift, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Speed Swap, Mystical Fire, Baton Pass, Encore, Future Sight, Blaze Kick - Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
- Life Dew, Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Giga Impact, Body Slam, Endure
- Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Endure, Muddy Water - Meteor Beam
- Razor Shell
- Swift, Rock Blast, Assurance, Endure - Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out, Meteor Beam
- Air Slash
- Self-Destruct, Icicle Spear, Avalanche, Endure - Triple Axel
- Leer, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Assurance, Body Slam, Endure, Nasty Plot - Lash Out
- Leer, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Assurance, Eerie Impulse, Body Slam, Endure, Electro Ball - Lash Out, Rising Voltage
- Leer, Sand Tomb, Self-Destruct, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Body Slam, Endure - Scorching Sands
- Swift, Assurance, Leech Life, Endure, Blaze Kick (previously event-only)
- Rock Throw, Scary Face, Rock Blast, Assurance, Body Slam, Endure, Close Combat, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs - Lash Out, Meteor Beam, Scale Shot
- Breaking Swipe, High Horsepower
- Freeze-Dry (only Amaura has this as a new move), Aurora Veil, Weather Ball, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Body Slam, Endure - Meteor Beam
- Icicle Spear
- Charm, Sand Tomb, Guard Swap, Endure, Body Press - Terrain Pulse, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
- Tackle, Swift, Draining Kiss, Smart Strike, Body Slam, Endure, Play Rough - Terrain Pulse, Misty Explosion
- Gust, Swift, Payback, Body Slam, Endure - Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out
- Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves, Core Enforcer (all 3 are level-1 moves now), Swift, Payback, Retaliate, Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Reversal, Endure, High Horsepower - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands, Skitter Smack
- Charm, Fake Tears, Sand Tomb, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Mystical Fire, Metronome, Amnesia, Endure, Baton Pass, Encore, Stored Power, Ally Switch, Play Rough, Body Press - Terrain Pulse, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
- Water Gun, Leer, Incinerate, Fire Spin, Scary Face, Self-Destruct, Rain Dance, Mud Shot, Thunder Fang, Misty Terrain, Focus Energy, Endure, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, Body Press - Scorching Sands
- Fairy Wind, Rest, Swift, Assurance, Eerie Impulse, Endure, Close Combat, Stored Power, Play Rough - Misty Explosion, Rising Voltage, Terrain Pulse
- Rest, Charm, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Speed Swap, Psycho Cut, Endure, Future Sight, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
- Rock Smash, Mega Drain, Mega Punch, Rest, Revenge, Bullet Seed, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Endure, Close Combat, Stored Power, Play Rough, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower - Grassy Glide, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
- Disarming Voice, Rest, Dive, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Endure, Stored Power, Play Rough - Flip Turn, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse
- Wrap, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Cross Poison, Hex, Body Slam, Endure - Corrosive Gas, Meteor Beam
- Revenge, Body Slam, Close Combat, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower - Coaching, Dual Wingbeat
- Bug Bite, Assurance, Endure, Close Combat - Triple Axel, Coaching, Skitter Smack
- Endure, Electro Ball - Rising Voltage
- Self-Destruct, Body Slam, Endure, Megahorn, Cosmic Power - Grassy Glide, Steel Roller
- Solar Blade, Screech, Endure - Grassy Glide
- Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Body Slam, Amnesia, Endure, Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Body Press - Corrosive Gas, Lash Out, Steel Roller
- Pin Missile, Endure, Toxic Spikes
- Dragon Rush, Giga Impact, Swift, Assurance, Cross Poison, Hex, Breaking Swipe, Spikes, Dragon Dance - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot
- Harden, Stomp, Mega Kick, Body Slam, Earthquake, Endure, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Body Press - Meteor Beam, Steel Roller
- Incinerate, Hypnosis, Fire Punch, Solar Beam, Fire Spin, Self-Destruct, Rock Blast, Shadow Claw, Mystical Fire, Endure, Encore, Zen Headbutt - Expanding Force, Scorching Sands
And here I'll list the remaining data from the old Home data dump, for Pokémon still not in the game. If a new data dump comes out, I will update this:
- Screech, Cross Poison, Baton Pass
- Beat Up, Sludge Bomb
- Close Combat, Psychic Fangs
- Beat Up, Screech, Thunder Wave, Thunder, Thunderbolt
- Close Combat, Psychic Fangs
- Pay Day, Brave Bird
- Venom Drench
- Venom Drench
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- Scary Face
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- Solar Blade
- Grassy Terrain
- Swift, Brutal Swing
- High Horsepower
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- Swift
- Electric Terrain
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- Beat Up
- Hydro Pump
- Mud Shot, Assurance, Brutal Swing
- Swift
- Mud Shot, Thunder, Thunderbolt
- Swift
- Self-Destruct, Swift, Draining Kiss
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- Assurance, Agility
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- Solar Blade, Pollen Puff
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- Mystical Fire
- Swift, Mud Shot
- Brutal Swing, Breaking Swipe, Muddy Water, Psychic Fangs
- Assurance, Tail Slap, Blizzard (only Sentret has this as a new move)
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- Mega Kick, Assurance
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- Assurance, Bug Buzz
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- Reflect
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- Baton Pass
- Leaf Storm
- Pollen Puff
- Fake Tears, Assurance, Brutal Swing, Encore
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- Weather Ball, Leaf Blade
- Helping Hand, Imprison
- Reversal, Bug Buzz
- Body Press
- Swift, Helping Hand
- Close Combat, Psychic Fangs
- Fire Spin, Self-Destruct, Sandstorm (only Slugma has this as a new move)
- Rock Blast, Heat Crash
- Sand Tomb, Encore
- Power Whip, Body Press
- Beat Up, Nasty Plot, Psychic Fangs
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- Air Slash
- Venom Drench
- Assurance, Baton Pass (only Taillow has this as a new move)
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- Acrobatics
- Swift
- Revenge, Reversal, Close Combat
- Swift
- Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Body Press
- Swift, Assurance
- Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Body Press
- Pay Day, Tail Slap, Draining Kiss, Nasty Plot
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- Revenge, Stored Power
- Blaze Kick, Aura Sphere
- Fake Tears, Agility
- Pollen Puff
- Sand Tomb, Heat Crash
- Flare Blitz, High Horsepower, Body Press
- Uproar
- Nasty Plot
- Swift, Encore (previously event-only)
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- Power Whip
- Helping Hand
- Nasty Plot (previously event-only)
- Dig
- Dig, Giga Drain, Solar Beam
- Fake Tears, Assurance, Brutal Swing, Encore
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- Air Slash
- Scary Face, Beat Up, Revenge, Hurricane
- Swords Dance, Agility
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- Pin Missile, Assurance, Power Whip
- Scary Face, Psychic Fangs
- Self-Destruct, Helping Hand, Sand Tomb, Heavy Slam, Body Press
- Future Sight
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- Giga Drain (only Tynamo has this as a new move)
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- Swift, Endure
- Swift, Endure
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- Acrobatics, Endure
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- Hyper Beam, Rock Tomb, Endure
- Endure
Credits to sb879 for the new list as well as my own lists from the last leaks/dlc (which I've found errors in both and had fixed for this list).
- Sand Tomb, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Hex, High Horsepower, Body Press - Scorching Sands - Sand Tomb, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Hex, High Horsepower, Body Press - Scorching Sands - Assurance, Agility, Crunch, Dual Wingbeat - Hex, Hurricane - Charm, Draining Kiss (only Smoochum has this as a new move), Encore, Stored Power - Icicle Spear, Psycho Cut, Psychic Terrain, Future Sight - Expanding Force, Triple Axel - Charge - Uproar , Rising Voltage - Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat - Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move) - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands - Weather Ball, Mystical Fire - Sand Attack, Meteor Beam - Crunch, Pin Missile, Liquidation - Leach Life, Stone Edge (only Kabuto has this as a new move), Liquidation (only Kabuto has this as a new move), Rock Blast - Meteor Beam - Psycho Cut, Cross Poison, Razor Shell - Flip Turn - Rock Blast, Dragon Dance, Hurricane, Psychic Fangs - Dual Wingbeat, Meteor Beam - Weather Ball, Icicle Spear, Air Slash, Brave Bird - Dual Wingbeat, Triple Axel - Hail, Weather Ball, Eerie Impulse, Air Slash, Baton Pass, Brave Bird, Hurricane - Dual Wingbeat, Rising Voltage - Gust, Incinerate, Weather Ball, Mystical Fire, Flare Blitz, Brave Bird - Burning Jealousy, Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands - Giga Impact (only Dratini has this as a new move), Fire Spin, Breaking Swipe, Hydro Pump -Scale Shot - Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Air Slash - Body Press, Dual Wingbeat - Assurance, Agility, Crunch, Dual Wingbeat - Hex, Hurricane - Charm, Draining Kiss (only Smoochum has this as a new move), Encore, Stored Power - Icicle Spear, Psycho Cut, Psychic Terrain, Future Sight - Expanding Force, Triple Axel - Charge - Uproar , Rising Voltage - Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat - Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move) - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands - Weather Ball, Mystical Fire - Extreme Speed (previously event-only), Charge, Howl, Helping Hand, Electric Terrain, Eerie Impulse, Agility, Scald, Aura Sphere (previously event-only), Weather Ball (previously event-only) - Rising Voltage - Extreme Speed (previously event-only), Smokescreen, Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Crunch, Helping Hand, Weather Ball, Agility, Reversal, Flare Blitz (previously event-only) - Scorching Sands - Crunch, Helping Hand, Weather Ball, Agility, Liquidation, Air Slash (previously event-only) - Mist, Helping Hand, Imprison, Air Slash, Hurricane (previously event-only) - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot - Life Dew, Burn Up, Fire Spin, Swift, Helping Hand, Imprison, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Flare Blitz - Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands - Leafage, Slash, Night Slash (only Treecko has this as a new move), Assurance - Grassy Glide - Solar Blade - Cross Poison, Breaking Swipe, Dragon Dance - Scale Shot - Detect, Flare Blitz (only Torchic has this as a new move), Assurance - Blaze Kick (only Combusken has this as a new move), Revenge - Coaching - U-turn, Close Combat, Aura Sphere, Heat Crash - Scorching Sands - Supersonic, Amnesia, Screech - Sand Tomb - Bulk Up, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower, Liquidation, Body Press - Flip Turn - Body Press - Steel Roller - Sand Tomb, Rock Blast - Scary Face, Hydro Pump, Crunch, High Horsepower, Swift - Meteor Beam - Dragon Breath (only Swablu has this as a new move), False Swipe - Dual Wingbeat - Fire Spin, Hurricane - Breaking Swipe - Rock Blast, Liquidation, Body Press, Iron Defense - Meteor Beam, Scale Shot - Mud Shot, Rock Blast - Grassy Glide, Meteor Beam - Leech Seed, Dig, Grassy Terrain, Power Whip - Mud Shot - Meteor Beam - Shadow Claw - Focus Energy, Air Slash, Close Combat - Steel Roller - Icicle Spear - Swords Dance, Hydro Pump, Heavy Slam, Liquidation, Body Press - Iron Defense (only Bagon has this as a new move) - Scale Shot - Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Hurricane - Dual Wingbeat - Tackle - Self-Destruct, Psycho Cut, Cosmic Power - Expanding Force, Meteor Beam, Steel Roller - Brutal Swing, Body Press - Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Sand Tomb, Rock Blast, Flash Cannon, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Meteor Beam - Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Icicle Spear, Heavy Slam - Self-Destruct (Was a XD exlusive), Sand Tomb, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Meteor Beam, Steel Roller - Confusion, Psycho Cut, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Agility, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Future Sight, Dragon Dance, Aura Sphere - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot - Confusion, Simple Beam, Psycho Cut, Mystical Fire, Air Slash, Breaking Swipe, Agility, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Future Sight, Aura Sphere - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot - Heavy Slam - Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, High Horsepower - Scorching Sands - Hurricane, Breaking Swipe, Hydro Pump, Cosmic Power - Meteor Beam, Scale Shot - Night Shade, Payback, Hex, Phantom Force - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Poltergeist - Bite, Scale Shot, Scorching Sands - Breaking Swipe, - Charge - Rising Voltage - Weather Ball, Darkest Lariat - Flame Wheel, Scary Face, Low Kick (only Magby has this as a new move) - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands - Weather Ball, Mystical Fire - Psybeam, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Nasty Plot, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force - Psybeam, Flatter, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Nasty Plot, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force - Psybeam, Self-Destruct, Assurance, Drain Punch, Psycho Cut, Draining Kiss, Metronome, Tri Attack, Baton Pass, Encore, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force - Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Scale Shot - Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Body Press - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot - Metal Claw, Self-Destruct, Body Slam, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, Body Press - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller - Pound, Stomp, Hammer Arm, Mega Punch (was an exclusive lv.1 move in Diamond/Pearl), Mega Kick, Rest, Protect, Body Slam, Endure, Heat Crash, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower, Body Press - Terrain Pulse - Phantom Force, Breaking Swipe, Body Slam - Dual Wingbeat, Poltergeist - Psybeam, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Body Slam, Cosmic Power, Stored Power - Expanding Force - V-create (previously event-only), Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Fire Spin, Swift, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Speed Swap, Mystical Fire, Baton Pass, Encore, Future Sight, Blaze Kick - Expanding Force, Scorching Sands - Life Dew, Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Giga Impact, Body Slam, Endure - Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Endure, Muddy Water - Meteor Beam - Razor Shell - Swift, Rock Blast, Assurance, Endure - Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out, Meteor Beam - Air Slash - Self-Destruct, Icicle Spear, Avalanche, Endure - Triple Axel - Leer, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Assurance, Body Slam, Endure, Nasty Plot - Lash Out - Leer, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Assurance, Eerie Impulse, Body Slam, Endure, Electro Ball - Lash Out, Rising Voltage - Leer, Sand Tomb, Self-Destruct, Scary Face, Weather Ball, Body Slam, Endure - Scorching Sands - Swift, Assurance, Leech Life, Endure, Blaze Kick (previously event-only) - Rock Throw, Scary Face, Rock Blast, Assurance, Body Slam, Endure, Close Combat, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs - Lash Out, Meteor Beam, Scale Shot - Breaking Swipe, High Horsepower - Freeze-Dry (only Amaura has this as a new move), Aurora Veil, Weather Ball, Mud Shot, Rock Blast, Body Slam, Endure - Meteor Beam - Icicle Spear - Charm, Sand Tomb, Guard Swap, Endure, Body Press - Terrain Pulse, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion - Tackle, Swift, Draining Kiss, Smart Strike, Body Slam, Endure, Play Rough - Terrain Pulse, Misty Explosion - Gust, Swift, Payback, Body Slam, Endure - Dual Wingbeat, Lash Out - Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves, Core Enforcer (all 3 are level-1 moves now), Swift, Payback, Retaliate, Breaking Swipe, Body Slam, Reversal, Endure, High Horsepower - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands, Skitter Smack - Charm, Fake Tears, Sand Tomb, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Mystical Fire, Metronome, Amnesia, Endure, Baton Pass, Encore, Stored Power, Ally Switch, Play Rough, Body Press - Terrain Pulse, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion - Water Gun, Leer, Incinerate, Fire Spin, Scary Face, Self-Destruct, Rain Dance, Mud Shot, Thunder Fang, Misty Terrain, Focus Energy, Endure, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, Body Press - Scorching Sands - Fairy Wind, Rest, Swift, Assurance, Eerie Impulse, Endure, Close Combat, Stored Power, Play Rough - Misty Explosion, Rising Voltage, Terrain Pulse - Rest, Charm, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Speed Swap, Psycho Cut, Endure, Future Sight, Stored Power, Play Rough - Expanding Force, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse - Rock Smash, Mega Drain, Mega Punch, Rest, Revenge, Bullet Seed, Power Swap, Guard Swap, Endure, Close Combat, Stored Power, Play Rough, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower - Grassy Glide, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse - Disarming Voice, Rest, Dive, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Endure, Stored Power, Play Rough - Flip Turn, Misty Explosion, Terrain Pulse - Wrap, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Cross Poison, Hex, Body Slam, Endure - Corrosive Gas, Meteor Beam - Revenge, Body Slam, Close Combat, Darkest Lariat, High Horsepower - Coaching, Dual Wingbeat - Bug Bite, Assurance, Endure, Close Combat - Triple Axel, Coaching, Skitter Smack - Endure, Electro Ball - Rising Voltage - Self-Destruct, Body Slam, Endure, Megahorn, Cosmic Power - Grassy Glide, Steel Roller - Solar Blade, Screech, Endure - Grassy Glide - Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Body Slam, Amnesia, Endure, Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Body Press - Corrosive Gas, Lash Out, Steel Roller - Pin Missile, Endure, Toxic Spikes - Dragon Rush, Giga Impact, Swift, Assurance, Cross Poison, Hex, Breaking Swipe, Spikes, Dragon Dance - Dual Wingbeat, Scale Shot - Harden, Stomp, Mega Kick, Body Slam, Earthquake, Endure, Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, High Horsepower, Body Press - Meteor Beam, Steel Roller - Incinerate, Hypnosis, Fire Punch, Solar Beam, Fire Spin, Self-Destruct, Rock Blast, Shadow Claw, Mystical Fire, Endure, Encore, Zen Headbutt - Expanding Force, Scorching Sands - Screech, Cross Poison, Baton Pass - Beat Up, Sludge Bomb - Close Combat, Psychic Fangs - Beat Up, Screech, Thunder Wave, Thunder, Thunderbolt - Close Combat, Psychic Fangs - Pay Day, Brave Bird - Venom Drench - Venom Drench(
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You can remove Zubat and Crobat from your list since these have been released with Crown Thundra.
I'm most interested in Ground-types so I keep track of their movepool changes. I was looking at your list to make sure my own list was correct and I noticed an error (on your part or perhaps mine)
For Wormadam-Sandy, I have both Giga Drain and Solar Beam listed as new moves alongside Dig.
I'm surprised they gave Spiritomb a Fire move and I'm dying to teach it to mine now. Entei learning Crunch was really unexpected and very welcome and with the patch, I can make it immune to Intimidate aside from flinching. I'm really liking the update but I am sad that Zapdos didn't get Air Slash and Koko and Bulu don't get Play Rough and their respective tutoring moves.
And here's a full list of how the home leak compairs to the final dlc release for new moves. Green means that it was added since the Home data dump. Red means that it was removed. Blue means that it's a new level up or egg move (which wasn't covered in the leaks). Like my last list, I'll list the lowest evolution stage that they can learn the new move:
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And here I'll list the remaining data from the old Home data dump, for Pokémon still not in the game. If a new data dump comes out, I will update this:
Credits to sb879 for the new list as well as my own lists from the last leaks/dlc (which I've found errors in both and had fixed for this list).
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Olny the Mega forms show having these moves. Their (otherwise identical) base forms don't have these moves.
What’s utterly fascinating in this list is that the Home Datamine was mostly correct, with most Pokemon only gaining/losing one move, if that....except for the Tapus, which lost several. Either Gamefreak tested the earlier list and considered them too broken by even their standards or the list was a thematic catch-all prototype that got amended as the DLC got further along.
Thanks, fixed the list. I noticed that all of the Pokémon after Electrode was missing for the ones still not in the game, so I'll have to add them in later.
Something that I noticed was that, of all of the still unrelased Pokémon between Gen5 through 7, only 4 actually have moves other than Swift and Endure. While the Pokémon between Gen1 through 4 all have a huge amount of new moves and Pokémon.
You have Stakataka as having lost Earthquake and Endure, but the datamine shows both those moves on the set. I also don't recall Aggron having Swift in any of the old leaks, but I could've missed it.
All the "losses" as far as I can tell (using the HOME TM/TR datamine and HOME Tutor datamines as reference):
All the "losses" as far as I can tell (using the HOME TM/TR datamine and HOME Tutor datamines as reference):
| 010 | Caterpie | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 011 | Metapod | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 012 | Butterfree | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 130 | Gyarados | Flip Turn | ||||
| 145 | Zapdos | Air Slash | ||||
| 184 | Azumarill | High Horsepower | ||||
| 971 | Corsola (Galar) | Poltergeist | ||||
| 246 | Larvitar | Meteor Beam | ||||
| 247 | Pupitar | Scorching Sands | Meteor Beam | |||
| 248 | Tyranitar | Scorching Sands | Meteor Beam | |||
| 324 | Torkoal | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 345 | Lileep | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 346 | Cradily | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 371 | Bagon | Scale Shot | ||||
| 372 | Shelgon | Scale Shot | ||||
| 373 | Salamence | Scale Shot | ||||
| 488 | Cresselia | Cosmic Power | ||||
| 1046 | Darmanitan (Galar) | Triple Axel | ||||
| 597 | Ferroseed | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 598 | Ferrothorn | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 609 | Chandelure | Scorching Sands | ||||
| 645 | Landorus | Scorching Sands | ||||
| 679 | Honedge | Poltergeist | ||||
| 680 | Doublade | Poltergeist | ||||
| 681 | Aegislash | Poltergeist | ||||
| 747 | Mareanie | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 748 | Toxapex | Skitter Smack | ||||
| 755 | Morelull | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 756 | Shiinotic | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 758 | Salazzle | Scorching Sands | ||||
| 778 | Mimikyu | Skitter Smack | Poltergeist | |||
| 785 | Tapu Koko | Close Combat | Play Rough | Terrain Pulse | Rising Voltage | Misty Explosion |
| 786 | Tapu Lele | Terrain Pulse | Expanding Force | Misty Explosion | ||
| 787 | Tapu Bulu | Play Rough | Terrain Pulse | Grassy Glide | Misty Explosion | |
| 788 | Tapu Fini | Terrain Pulse | Flip Turn | Misty Explosion | ||
| 797 | Celesteela | Cosmic Power | ||||
| 798 | Kartana | Grassy Glide | ||||
| 806 | Blacephalon | Scorching Sands |
Zubat and Crobat are still under Gen 2.
So I was recently alerted to this post. Looks like some funky things have happened with the addition of transferring Pokemon from GO to Home. I'm still unsure about the details on this, but should this remain possible there's a small handful of new additions. The big one highlighted is that Alolan Vulpix/Ninetales get access to Fire-type moves from their Kantonian counterparts, which is absolutely massive for a Pokemon that suffers from being walled by Steel-types.
I can't confirm if these can or cannot be used in-game, or if these will even exist for long if this oversight gets patched out.
I can't confirm if these can or cannot be used in-game, or if these will even exist for long if this oversight gets patched out.
If it's eventually patched out I imagine none of this matters. Stuff like Hydro Pump Excadrill and things born from the old Mimic / Rage glitches aren't legal in OU or VGC so probably Vulpix will have the same treatment.
I'd be down for Fire using Alolan Ninetales if that happened.