LC Cyndaquil

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[OVERVIEW]
On paper, Cyndaquil's access to Eruption should make it a formidable sweeper; in practice, Cyndaquil's mediocre Special Attack and movepool leave it checked fairly easily. In addition, due to Cyndaquil's average Speed for an offensive Pokemon, it is forced to use a Choice Scarf set to be effective. Eruption allows Cyndaquil to make up for its relatively low Special Attack, but Cyndaquil's weakness to Stealth Rock and low bulk make it hard to keep Eruption's power up, and Eruption is Cyndaquil's only way to deal meaningful damage. Generally speaking, Ponyta and Larvesta are better options for offensive Fire-types, and even Houndour is a better choice as a Fire-type special attacker due to having much better Special Attack and a more useful movepool.

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Extrasensory
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 44 HP / 12 Def / 200 SpA / 236 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Cyndaquil attempts to use Choice Scarf and Eruption to outspeed and KO many offensive Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, Cyndaquil's predictability and shallow coverage options leave it easy for Pokemon like Ponyta, Onix, and Tirtouga to come in on a resisted move. In addition, after Cyndaquil comes in while Stealth Rock is on the field, Eruption is severely weakened, meaning Cyndaquil is easily checked by almost anything with moderate bulk. Ponyta outclasses Cyndaquil in every way other than the niche of Eruption, with higher stats as well as a much better movepool, giving Ponyta excellent strong coverage. Larvesta and Houndour are also potential Choice Scarf Pokemon that outclass Cyndaquil, with Larvesta having U-turn for momentum and Houndour offering both Fire- and Dark-type STAB attacks as well as being able to boost with Flash Fire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DBW, 293061], [Merritt, 213064]]
- Quality checked by: [[Nineage, 195129], [Coconut, 150971] ]
- Grammar checked by: [[martha, 384270]]
 
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Taking this over from DBW with Nineage's permission. Could you also take a quick look to make sure your check is ok Nineage?

Otherwise, ready for QC.
 
I think in the first sentence I would lead with its biggest negatives (poor speed and frailty) rather than mention its reliance on Choice Scarf. Maybe just rearrange the order of information in the first two sentences, its all good but feels kind of uncomfortable right now.
Otherwise, the original check stands, qc+1
 
It exists I guess. Wow this thing gets Extrasensory? Who knew.

Ran through the calcs, it's probably still better to have flash fire than blaze. But mention that houndour and ponyta both do that too. But better.

QC 2/2
 
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[OVERVIEW]
While on On paper, Cyndaquil Cyndaquil's access to Eruption should make it a formidable sweeper,;(RC, ASC) in practice,(AC) Cyndaquil's mediocre Special Attack and movepool leave it checked fairly easily. In addition, due to Cyndaquil's average Speed for an offensive Pokemon,(AC) it is forced to use a Choice Scarf set to be effective. Eruption allows Cyndaquil to make up for its relatively low Special Attack, but Cyndaquil's weakness to Stealth Rock and low bulk make it hard to keep Eruption's power up, and Eruption is Cyndaquil's only way to deal meaningful damage. Generally speaking, Ponyta or and Larvesta are better options for offensive Fire-types,(AC) and even Houndour is a better choice as a Fire-type special attacker due to having much better Special Attack and a more useful movepool.

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Extrasensory
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 44 HP / 12 Def / 200 SpA / 236 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Cyndaquil attempts to use Choice Scarf and Eruption to outspeed and kill many offensive Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, Cyndaquil's predictability and shallow coverage options leave it easy for Pokemon like Ponyta, Onix, or and Tirtouga to come in on a resisted move. In addition, after Cyndaquil comes in while Stealth Rock is on the field, Eruption is severely weakened,(AC) meaning and Cyndaquil is easily checked by almost anything with moderate bulk. Ponyta outclasses Cyndaquil in every way other than the niche of Eruption, with higher stats as well as a much better movepool,(AC) giving Ponyta excellent strong coverage. Larvesta and Houndour are also potential Choice Scarf Pokemon that outclass Cyndaquil, with Larvesta getting access to having U-turn for momentum and Houndour offering Fire- and Dark-type STAB attacks (Cyndaquil has Fire-type STAB attacks too tho. Wouldn't it be better to just address that Houndour as secondary STAB stuff?) as well as being able to boost with Flash Fire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DBW, 293061], [Merritt, 213064]]
- Quality checked by: [[Nineage, 195129], [Coconut, 150971] ]
- Grammar checked by: []
 
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[OVERVIEW]
While on On paper, Cyndaquil Cyndaquil's access to Eruption should make it a formidable sweeper,;(RC, ASC) in practice,(AC) Cyndaquil's mediocre Special Attack and movepool leave it checked fairly easily. In addition, due to Cyndaquil's average Speed for an offensive Pokemon,(AC) it is forced to use a Choice Scarf set to be effective. Eruption allows Cyndaquil to make up for its relatively low Special Attack, but Cyndaquil's weakness to Stealth Rock and low bulk make it hard to keep Eruption's power up, and Eruption is Cyndaquil's only way to deal meaningful damage. Generally speaking, Ponyta or and Larvesta are better options for offensive Fire-types,(AC) and even Houndour is a better choice as a Fire-type special attacker due to having much better Special Attack and a more useful movepool.

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Extrasensory
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Flash Fire
nature: Timid
evs: 44 HP / 12 Def / 200 SpA / 236 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Cyndaquil attempts to use Choice Scarf and Eruption to outspeed and kill KO many offensive Pokemon in the tier. Unfortunately, Cyndaquil's predictability and shallow coverage options leave it easy for Pokemon like Ponyta, Onix, or and Tirtouga to come in on a resisted move. In addition, after Cyndaquil comes in while Stealth Rock is on the field, Eruption is severely weakened,(AC) meaning and Cyndaquil is easily checked by almost anything with moderate bulk. Ponyta outclasses Cyndaquil in every way other than the niche of Eruption, with higher stats as well as a much better movepool,(AC) giving Ponyta excellent strong coverage. Larvesta and Houndour are also potential Choice Scarf Pokemon that outclass Cyndaquil, with Larvesta getting access to having U-turn for momentum and Houndour offering Fire- and Dark-type STAB attacks (Cyndaquil has Fire-type STAB attacks too tho. Wouldn't it be better to just address that Houndour as secondary STAB stuff?) as well as being able to boost with Flash Fire.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DBW, 293061], [Merritt, 213064]]
- Quality checked by: [[Nineage, 195129], [Coconut, 150971] ]
- Grammar checked by: []
GP 1/1
 
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