NOC D6 Mafia Game Thread [Day 4; Deadline June 1 at 6 PM EST]

[Tommy]

I think when you sit back and take any solve that isn't pretty much auto, you are putting control of the game in fates hands rather than your own

 

[Whydon]

I’m here

I would much prefer not to die today because I think this is just setting up for a clarinet mislynch if they’re town

 

[Tommy]

Like if scummy person x flips town we are in a bad spot, yes I agree

But that's unlikely if they are scummy, sometimes you just gotta trust yourself

 

[Tommy]

I dunno yeah I really don't like your whole being unwilling to lynch someone in case they flip town we are in a bad spot, like you always lynch people likely to flip scum, because if you lynch someone else and they flip town you are in a bad spot regardless

Plus then you always have to return to the slots you didn't flip before, you aren't fixing anything just delaying the problem

 

[Tommy]

Don't agree with the idea btw not reading you badly for it to be clear***

 

[Athena_57]

Mh, fair, I'm also thinking from the POV of "we're never getting any more info bc associatives are pointless from today/yesterday onwards" so I'm not only trying to figure out which 3 people I want dead but also which teams are unlikely so we can flip them in the order that provides a potential out to catch the fourth if we're wrong

 

[Tommy]

Athena_57 is there any person you think we can flip to help solve clarinet, because unless we do that idt we ever lynch anyone but clarinet today. It just means we have to come back to clarinet later, and tbh in lylo after the game clarinet has had there is no way you can ever let him live ever ever. So we are just delaying clarinet for tomorrow if we don't lynch him today.

 

[Athena_57]

Though this is really hard with 2 slots that were inactive D1 and associatives that are WIFOM from D2 onwards lmfao

 

[Tommy]

It is certainly not easy ill give you that

 

[Athena_57]

Athena_57 is there any person you think we can flip to help solve clarinet, because unless we do that idt we ever lynch anyone but clarinet today. It just means we have to come back to clarinet later, and tbh in lylo after the game clarinet has had there is no way you can ever let him live ever ever. So we are just delaying clarinet for tomorrow if we don't lynch him today.

I feel like a whydon scumflip looks bad on clarinet bc the timing of whydon's mewtwo vote pulled mewtwo ahead of clarinet in votals

 

[Athena_57]

It's level 1 but the best I got :rolling_eyes:

 

[Athena_57]

Let's say we get Clarinet today. I feel like if we hit scum we lynch whydon for sure, then probably vooper over jordan

Where would you go after a townflip?

 

[Tommy]

If clarinet flips town I feel like I am very fucked after pushing this hard lmao

 

[Tommy]

But I would say that would mean probably like viper +hannah or maybe jordan?

I am pretty confident whydon town here

 

[Athena_57]

idts, scum!you is deep enough to not have to go hard on a clarient push when you can just sit back and let voop/whydon/jordan or smth get lynched instead

 

[Whydon]

If clarinet flips town I think vooper + jordan/hannah is almost a given at that point

 

[Athena_57]

But I would say that would mean probably like viper +hannah or maybe jordan?

I am pretty confident whydon town here

Help me understand your whydon townread

 

[Tommy]

Yeah I guess, I just don't see a clear scum team without clarinet being on it

 

[Tommy]

Help me understand your whydon townread

It is just meta, he seems super pure too. I have played so many games with this whydon and he is always town, he has done nothing differently

 

[Athena_57]

It is just meta, he seems super pure too. I have played so many games with this whydon and he is always town, he has done nothing differently

Have you ever played w/ scum!whydon?

 

[Athena_57]

I agree whydon has been pure in some posts but so were all of vooper/jordan/clarinet

 

[Samoyed]

Yeah I guess, I just don't see a clear scum team without clarinet being on it

but why would clar and caf only tunnel each other yesterday if they were both scum

They could have responded to their wagons by tunneling someone else

 

[Tommy]

Well whydon has like never rolled scum tbf so technically no, but I feel like there would be some change

 

[Samoyed]

I agree whydon has been pure in some posts but so were all of vooper/jordan/clarinet

eh

Have you ever played w/ scum!whydon?

whydon has never rolled mafia in smogon noc

 

[Tommy]

but why would clar and caf only tunnel each other yesterday if they were both scum

They could have responded to their wagons by tunneling someone else

Because they were under too much pressure I think, if they both try push elsewhere and townread each other, they are very obviously buddying up. Best play is try townspew their partner by tunneling each other and distancing.