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NOC D6 Mafia Game Thread [Day 4; Deadline June 1 at 6 PM EST]

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Also the reason we want the bodyguard to out themselves is because with no other power roles to protect, bodyguard becomes a pretty useless role. All it can do is die instead of another vanilla player. Even if mafia kill bodyguard after claiming that simply stops him from being able to....die instead of another player? There is really no benefit in having the bodyguard except for their claim making them a cleared townie.
 
XnadrojX said:
Actually I kinda see why Samo susses Caffeine but not why it would be over Clarinet. And Clarinet is just probably selfpres-ing by going on Caffeine.

The only case I see Clarinet as Town here is that he's a Bodyguard banking on not getting NKed and getting Caffeine lynched, to claim in MyLo, which would either be tomorrow or the day after if Caffeine flips scum. But then he could just claim now and be done over with all that shit? I totally can't see where Clarinet is coming from.

Samoyed I need you to walk me through on your opinions on Clarinet and Caffeine and optionally hal if you're able to
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I really liked page 29 from clarinet. It felt like he was trying to help and solve, and he was giving his reads.

Caffeine has disappeared and they looked TERRIBLE at EOD yesterday. They are first in my Poe
XnadrojX keep posting like this and I’m pretty sure I read you town
 
something that struck with me is that DS scumread Athena and Clarinet yesterday and he got nightkilled, but people have been passing it off as a fearkill

I don’t like that
 
these people should not be touched: Samo/Dusk/Hannah

don't ask me about xnadrojx cause there won't be any answer

vote should be on Caffe or we could risk with Whydon

I'm not confident on any other options, I hope the guy that replaced Zest can deliver some thoughts
 
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Clarinet (4)- Athena_57, Duskfall98, CaffeineBoost, XnadrojX
CaffeineBoost (2)- Clarinet, Samoyed
Not Voting (4)- Whydon, apricity, vooper, Hannahh

Deadline is 26 May, 2019 at 6:00 PM EST.
 
Athena_57 said:
I'm not sure if I'm emotionally ready for town!Clarinet
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Okay, so I like today's Clarinet. But I also still believe yesterday's Clarinet was atrocious. I think what's most interesting to me rn is that I'm like 95% sure there is exactly 1 scum in Clarinet/Caffeine.
That Caffeine vote on Clarinet was the one that turned the Clarinet wagon into an actual contender against the Mewtwo wagon and idt gamestate warranted a busvote here so they're not s/s imo. I'm also inclined to agree Caffeine looks iffy in retrospect. I liked the Clarinet vote D1 bc I like people agreeing with me, but I suppose it's not really a good post and his Marth vote at eod was awful in terms of not taking responsibility for his vote.
They're the two scummiest people left in the game atp though so I'm having trouble building a scumteam without the two of them and feel like there's always scum between them.

Leaning towards voting Caf rn bu tI'll get back to it after re-evaluating my towns and nulls
 
Ordered readslist time

Athena
Lol

Samoyed
Lol
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Duskfall98
I like duskfall here. Idt he tries to pull the lynch to mewtwo at eod when town!marth is about to be lynched bc he risks looking awful and scum!dusk probably fears marth more(?)
Marth and Sam also townread him and I'm inclined to trust them. Only reason I ever revisit this townread is after a Clarinet scumflip bc of his behaviour around the time the clarinet wagon started picking up steam (page 19/20 off the top of my head), but never before then. Actually ig going into today pushing clarinet kinda ruins that world too. Hardest non-bodyguard town.

XnadrojX
Seems pretty town. I'll admit he makes on okayish partner for caf in a scum!caf/town!clar world based on today's clarinet wagon but I agree Clarinet is/was scummy af and I really like most of his posts. High townread

Hannahh
I feel like there was smth I noticed when rereading the game where I was like "ah, this should help w/ associatives on hannah" but I forgot lmao. Seems pretty towny based on gut but I'm holding off on committing here until we get some associative reads on her. I feel like for hannah in particular those help out a lot. Tentative town-circle member.
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Leaves 5 people in my current poe

Whydon/ZestOfLife
Lol

apricity
I'm hearing a lot of townreads on hal (hannah/dusk mostly?) but I'm not really a fan and closer to null. He was the 3rd vote (always scum guys, the wiki told me so) on mewtwo and first made it relevant. He then spent most of the day on a vanity wagon before hopping over to Marth which was a coward vote. I expect better from hal than this is what I'm saying. Other reason I have him down here is that clearing him would leave me with the team that's one of Caf/Clar + Whydon + Zest which just seems like such a fucking cop out. If I'm not being a coward and forcing myself to include a second active besides Caf/Clar he's by far the most sensible choice
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CaffeineBoost/Clarinet
I think today's lynch is always in here. If either flips scum, I'm clearing the other until F3/4 and if either flips town I'm tunnelling the other the day after.
 
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