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NOC Deathnote NOC Mafia - GAME OVER, Postgame in #714

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Thetwinmasters said:
Also a question I want everybody to answer is do you believe people who claim should most likely get lynched? yes or no and why
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I'm not sure I understand the train of thought that leads to the assumption, could you elaborate?

In theory it would depend on the quality of the scumhunting that led to them feeling a necessity to claim in the first place. If they were being heavily pressured and failing to adequately defend themselves pre-claim then most likely yes they should be lynched. If they claim with no pressure at all to direct scum hunting then probably don't lynch them but try and verify information and/or sheep them if they can sufficiently justify their solve.
 
hi texas this is not rvs explain your vote before i slap you as aura's partner

aura is scum btw

im like 80% sure

every single time ive seen a game opening post like that its been scum, and it is very very telling
 
Arguing about setup is pointless rofl. No one should be fucking claiming except Merlin/Perceval since they are two of the four villagers who have an idea who town are. The other two are watxer/tracker duo but for obvious reasons they never claim. I still don't see how a Merlin claim for the trade is bad (if Merlin ever dies then you're all retarded for not letting him reveal his info and putting us in a shit position.) I really don't see how you're going to pin anyone as scum day 1 without Merlin/Perceval so er what
 
ok so scum team is aura / texas / ?. most likely one of the guys that havent posted.

haruno, youre probably the only tr im confident in here. thoughts?
 
Asek - post!
KnightsofCydonia - post!
Thetwinmasters - undecided
pancake - post!
Texas Cloverleaf - if youre town its cute you think you can vote without explanations but you havent earned that <3 if you think im scum build a case on me and get me lynched, thats how town wins. not posting reasons is inherently scummy in this situation, as what im guessing is you want others to give an explanation due to your lack of experience and youll go along like you knew it. so what im saying - if youre scum u do u cutie, if youre town convince people to lynch me
Gronkasaurus Rex - post!
acidphoenix - post!
Haruno - townie
Josh - townie
Aura Guardian - scum
Mithril - i dont think you are necessarily scum. you need to understand that voting nl is not scum indicative, scum have no reason to draw attention to themselves like that. its more of a faux-tell, especially from an obv newb. gj commenting though, look for other stuff!
Hitmonleet - dont assume i think youre town. you are null. it is simply nai that you posted about nling and edited like that, it is not newbtown either. any other impressions?
Blank Slate2356 - who? (post!)
MoodyCloud - post!


people i tagged with post! are people i dont remember anything significant from
 
Josh said:
Lmfao shut up not reading the rules isn't a scum tell it's a noob tell
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Speaking as someone who was scum in your game and couldn't be assed to read a wiki because I figured by scum team would cover for me, it sure as shit can be a scum tell.

Josh said:
This is scum

[vote]aura guardian[/vote]
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Based on absolutely zero justification.

Josh said:
I still haven't read the rules, just skimmed the roles and read my pm btw so if that's scummy vote me too
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It may not be inherently scummy but it certainly isn't towny.

Josh said:
We could if aura wasn't caught scum
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Reinforcing your claim based on nothing, with nothing.

Josh said:
The entire post is screaming scum

And anyone getting on Hitmonleet for that is significantly scummier. It's bad to jump on newbies like that for no good reason.
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Continuing to reinforce. Moreover, using the defense of a new player to gain yourself a positive appearance while simultaneously casting doubt on two other users to further disguise the scum.

Josh said:
hi texas this is not rvs explain your vote before i slap you as aura's partner

aura is scum btw

im like 80% sure

every single time ive seen a game opening post like that its been scum, and it is very very telling
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This is getting repetitive now.



Josh is strongly scum suspicious. He is attempting to claim his opinions as fact, he is using misdirection to cast aspersions and doubt on other users while failing to justify his own line of attack. Josh's defending of Hitmonleet makes Hitmonleet look better as Josh's goat for town cred. Vote Josh
 
Josh said:
Asek - post!
KnightsofCydonia - post!
Thetwinmasters - undecided
pancake - post!
Texas Cloverleaf - if youre town its cute you think you can vote without explanations but you havent earned that <3 if you think im scum build a case on me and get me lynched, thats how town wins. not posting reasons is inherently scummy in this situation, as what im guessing is you want others to give an explanation due to your lack of experience and youll go along like you knew it. so what im saying - if youre scum u do u cutie, if youre town convince people to lynch me
Gronkasaurus Rex - post!
acidphoenix - post!
Haruno - townie
Josh - townie
Aura Guardian - scum
Mithril - i dont think you are necessarily scum. you need to understand that voting nl is not scum indicative, scum have no reason to draw attention to themselves like that. its more of a faux-tell, especially from an obv newb. gj commenting though, look for other stuff!
Hitmonleet - dont assume i think youre town. you are null. it is simply nai that you posted about nling and edited like that, it is not newbtown either. any other impressions?
Blank Slate2356 - who? (post!)
MoodyCloud - post!


people i tagged with post! are people i dont remember anything significant from
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The irony in this post is astounding. Guess what I was doing while you were posting, while you continue to fail to post your own justification. You know as well as I do that reads lists are completely useless at this stage of the game and all this is is a failed attempt to look like you're positively contributing. This post could not have less content if you hadn't tried to make it be so.
 
now seriouser reply:

hello,

good! you are clearing hitmonleet! thank you!

now, lets analyze your case on me.

Speaking as someone who was scum in your game and couldn't be assed to read a wiki because I figured by scum team would cover for me, it sure as shit can be a scum tell.
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-relevant

Based on absolutely zero justification.
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-as you proceed to quote justification

It may not be inherently scummy but it certainly isn't towny.
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-as i have already acknowledged

the rest
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yes! i am repetitive! congrats! man i think im more of an ms player than a smogon player, ive adapted to their meta. but here ya go as a lesson: repetition isnt alignment indicative. it can be scummy or townie. my slot should be a null read rn, it shouldnt be townie or scummy objectively, but it is nice to know you are halfway to lynching me on your own! lets see some more lynch joshes.

The irony in this post is astounding. Guess what I was doing while you were posting, while you continue to fail to post your own justification. You know as well as I do that reads lists are completely useless at this stage of the game and all this is is a failed attempt to look like you're positively contributing. This post could not have less content if you hadn't tried to make it be so.
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irony! the irony of me posting something before you posting and you doing it! nice! irony has been taught to me. hi buddy, newsflash - thats not a readslist. it is not an attempt to look like im positively contributing, its an attempt to tag people and annoy them so they post because i cant stand slow games since time is a wincon on smogon (lol!). however, youre blatant misrepping is more newbie indicative than scum indicative, so ill keep my scumread on you for the prior reasons.



twin: i appreciate you voting texas! gj! however, aura is the more likely scum, texas could easily just be overconfident newb here too. lynch aura first please!
 
Josh said:
-as you proceed to quote justification
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"This is scum" =/= justification. Your entire argument against aura guardian is literally "He's scum, vote for him thx"

-as i have already acknowledged
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This makes it better how exactly?

yes! i am repetitive! congrats! man i think im more of an ms player than a smogon player, ive adapted to their meta. but here ya go as a lesson: repetition isnt alignment indicative. it can be scummy or townie. my slot should be a null read rn, it shouldnt be townie or scummy objectively, but it is nice to know you are halfway to lynching me on your own! lets see some more lynch joshes.
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Repetition is alignment indicative when you are trying to push for a lynch via repetition without having justified your lynch. Your repetition is solely intended to convince other users that your vote is correct via said repetition, and not by any train of logic whatsoever. Ergo, your repetition is scum indicative.

irony! the irony of me posting something before you posting and you doing it! nice! irony has been taught to me. hi buddy, newsflash - thats not a readslist. it is not an attempt to look like im positively contributing, its an attempt to tag people and annoy them so they post because i cant stand slow games since time is a wincon on smogon (lol!). however, youre blatant misrepping is more newbie indicative than scum indicative, so ill keep my scumread on you for the prior reasons.
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Once again with the misdirection! The irony being that you call me out for lack of justification and yet have still not posted justification against Aura Guardian!!! The irony indeed!
 
"This is scum" =/= justification. Your entire argument against aura guardian is literally "He's scum, vote for him thx"

a wise man once said you dont need to give justification to scum

i dont think you actually understand what half the terms youre using mean so ima just stop talking and go to sleep and hopefully wake up to people posting and discussing this! tvt? svs? tvs? who knows!
 
Keep trying to insult and discredit me, maybe someone will believe you.

What was it that was said about toxic behaviours earlier in this thread?

Thetwinmasters said:
where it becomes a shitshow of just insulting each other and in that case it does nothing to help scumhunting at all since it just distracts people from more important things.
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I don't have to resort to insults to clearly state: everything you've said and done indicates scum
 
there are no mass quotes on smogon and individual is annoying as fuck so ill do it like this i guess
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these are all townie posts. this activity + this content is townie. again, i dont make wallposts by playstyle. haruno is playing pro-town and this is very different from his scum game. i dont disagree with him either - i think merlin revealing would likely win the game. sure, it has obvious disadvantages, but catching two thirds of the scum team almost immediately is a godsend. i completely get the disadvantages BUT overall i support merlin claiming.
 
lol @ that post turning into being about merlin claiming. seriously, it is pro town to discuss like that. merlin could easily get randed which still has all the disadvantages without the advantages. if merlin claims it should be really early as in d1 or when deathnote is killed though.
 
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