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NOC Deathnote NOC Mafia - GAME OVER, Postgame in #714

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The day is far from being over let's not jump to "lynch that guy next bye". The biggest thing I have against you is that you were twin's number one town read and he died visiting his target. Maybe we're mistaken but you won't solve anything by avoiding discussion.
 
If watcher targeted me they'll know he didn't, if they ignored it too you'll have to take my word for it and think that twin wouldn't have believed me. This doesn't change the fact that we're curently discussing you potentially being scum ditching your partner when you saw him slip, so you can keep asking about this but I doub't it'll do you much good.
 
A) not a single other person besides twin late day caught the slip and I brought it up to him. As scum that is fucking stupid
B) no asek scum is not free to bus this game any more than regular I am dumbfounded you believe that
C) i dont believe I should be obvtown for aura interactions (I should be but w.e) - i should be obvtown because I'm obvtown, just like it was a scum slip because it was a scum slip. If the reasoning behind that isn't clicking for you there's a hole in your mafia knowledge.
D) stop fucking wasting time replying until I post my reads pls and thx ;D


Yknow why I don't wanna lynch caught scum Hitmonleet today? This game townies have really dropped the ball. I know this is harsh and makes me sound like an egotistical ass but I am straight up not confident town will find and lynch the last scum without me. I think the thread activity will drop a lot and scum will just coast. Gronk and/or (not gonna help scum with poe;) soz boys) merlin are playing moderately well and twin played fine bar his night action (pending depending who it was); I'd limit it at that from my perspective rn. Everyone else imo is playing an eh or bad game. Ya ya mass-omgus, but my point is my feelings are that town has a much better chance of lynching scum with me here to do it and you don't need to agree with this (I probably wouldnt) but you do need to accept this as my reasoning for not wanting to lynch Hitmonleet today. I'm going to post reads soon. I want everyone to blindly trust who I put as townie as townie tomorrow because it'll make solving much easier. Feel free to ignore me - again, this is personal advice.


Btw I'm not this cocky as a person I'm friends with a lot of u I've been trying to emulate one dudes play and this is an experiment for me so don't take it personally xoxo
 
MoodyCloud said:
If watcher targeted me they'll know he didn't, if they ignored it too you'll have to take my word for it and think that twin wouldn't have believed me. This doesn't change the fact that we're curently discussing you potentially being scum ditching your partner when you saw him slip, so you can keep asking about this but I doub't it'll do you much good.
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Also, due to how this game works watcher can't just claim twin visited or didn't visit you and you know that.
 
It's ok this is a game and you don't have to apologize, do your thing. From my PoV if what asek says is right and we're lynching hitmonleet-merlin, then town will auto-lose. I also doubt asek would go in so deep to cover for a scum teammate when all he'd have to do is lay low. Those paired with my suspicion of twin having targeted his most trusted townread are pretty much my reasons for voting you. I'd like it if you addressed them.
 
Im at work so i cant write full responses but dont let josh omgus his way out of this when his actions are demonstratably anti town and he cant explain numerous things

Also intetesting he jumps to the mislynch bait as soon as suspicion falls on him
 
MoodyCloud said:
It's ok this is a game and you don't have to apologize, do your thing. From my PoV if what asek says is right and we're lynching hitmonleet-merlin, then town will auto-lose. I also doubt asek would go in so deep to cover for a scum teammate when all he'd have to do is lay low. Those paired with my suspicion of twin having targeted his most trusted townread are pretty much my reasons for voting you. I'd like it if you addressed them.
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i am legitimately dumbfounded i need to explain this and that asek is playing so bad (hey asek, oh my god you suck). do you not realize: ASEK TOLD SCUM HITMONLEET = MERLIN and HE = BODYGUARD. it doesnt MATTER if hitmonleet gets lynched, if hitmonleet is merlin the game is over ANYWAYS. look at how many living people there are: 10, 8 town. there goes merlin and bg, 6town, plus the inspect last night which was likely me, 5 town, plus they get a second guess AND two more at the end of the game AND all of the people who randomly get guessed before that. scum auto win if hitmonleet = merlin and it doesnt matter what happens, theyve already won, vigs dead so we cant even end game tonight.
Im at work so i cant write full responses but dont let josh omgus his way out of this when his actions are demonstratably anti town and he cant explain numerous things

Also intetesting he jumps to the mislynch bait as soon as suspicion falls on him
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you were more productive to town idling. ill humor you though, what numerous things cant i explain? where am i demonstratably anti town?
I'm merlin my people are aura asek hitmonleet and moody
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i chose my 4 biggest scum reads and claimed merlin with them. i knew ag was flipping scum, i think i proved i knew that throughout the day, and i wanted to ensure merlin wasnt randed. claiming merlin with my biggest scumreads would both throw scum off and get my biggest scumreads lynched. ive proved im right on ag and texas proved im right on hitmonleet. that leaves aura and asek. asek is town after further anaysis btw which is why youll see my reads below




tis in order of towniest -> scummiest in each category

conftown (i am personally willing to bet the game theyre town and accept town as having already lost if one of them played that good as scum):
Asek
Gronkasaurus Rex

townier side:
mithril
acidphoenix
king

scummier side (lets hunt that last scum!):
haruno
pancake
moody

confscum:
Hitmonleet


this should be obvious but watcher/tracker, do not make it obvious you're aware of each other

sry but again no reasons for my reads. i figured out a lot of the game and dont want to hint at anything for scum.


i think the last scum is 80% in pancake and moody, and moody is much more likely. and dw im not an idiot, merlin is tucked away via me rnging what slot to put em in.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
Vote hitmonleet

No risk with this one
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This is the first Texas post after Josh claimed to be Merlin. He was clearly leaning towards Hitmonleet as scum prior to this, see his posts 342 and 344, but he suddenly goes from preferring Hitmonleet to the above post of to a Hitmonleet vote having no risk and him being confirmed scum in his post 376. The only thing that has happened in this time was Josh claiming Merlin. The only way I can make sense of this strong a reaction is if the people in his pm were Hitmonleet and Josh and he was finally 100% convinced that Josh is Merlin. Only problem with this is that Josh clearly didn't die and clearly isn't Merlin.

Hitmonleet said:
Don't underestimate the power of knowledge, guys. All the mafia needs to kill is your role. Never let it become too obvious. Trying to simply oust mafia through claiming is a bit of a dangerous move, but possibly benefitial in the long run. Essentially, we're going to have to reveal our roles subtly and carefully.

Completely unrelated to the above statement, whoever is the Identity Exchanger should not reveal their role under any circumstances. You'll probablu be the only protective role left.

Finally, acidphoenix you've been oddly quiet d1.
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This is Hitmonleet's only post D1 after the Josh Merlin claim. This feels to me like Merline pleading to people to be careful about the information they release while pointing out that we should be careful about how we release information. He also points to the Identity Exchanger in the hope that he will at some point figure out that Hitmonleet is Merlin. He hopes to play the waiting game in order to figure out the rest of Twin / Asek / Josh. If you look as far back as his reads post in 185, he is null on both Twin and Asek while blatantly states that either Josh is town, or scum with AG. All of these reads further make sense with Asek's claim of BG.


Hitmonleet said:
Lynch Asek. Pretty sure this is the right one.

Josh, after your post, I'm feeling a lot more confident in your being town.

Also, I find the death of Mazur worrisome, and Moody is looking pretty scummy now, due to his plan to be confirmed. Of course, Twin could have simply targeted someone else. I donno.
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All of this leads to Hitmonleet's post today where he believes Josh's story about faking the Merlin claim, saw Twin was DA, and thus concludes that Asek has to be the Mafia Hooker. All of this falls way too nicely into place for me to not believe it.

Vote Josh
 
another post, another awestruckly stupid townie and more omgus you suck. but sure, let hitmonleet afk and watch town throw. smogon maf rly is something lol
 
wait nvm I lied again

Josh is basically complete conftown along with asek and gronk and anyone who can't see why I would encourage to at least think about it because this is really easy deductive reasoning frankly
 
Actually upon rereading your post about the merlin claim, I can definitely see it as plausible. Especially since josh was so hard on claiming he was inspected and since mafia honestly does not even need to kill merlin right away since leaving merlin alive (if it is hitmon) gives them a free myslynch. Also I refuse to believe that blazade made mafia not have some competent player with josh being counted as one whereas AG + hitmon + moody/asek sounds far more sketch than say AG + josh/hitmon + moody.

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vote josh

Also if we do not have a 100% vote on light (you're fucking retarded if you think josh/hitmon are light) then I propose that we purposely myslynch a village and have them get janitor'd since it makes it much harder for mafia to guess when there's an extra role in game.
 
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