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Pokémon Diancie

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Ninja Charizard said:
Interesting fact about Diancie: it resists both Dragon and Fire, so it can be a counter to any Charizard X lacking EQ.
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"Diancie floats in the air using it's Air Balloon!"

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BUT ANYWAY.

I tested the Crocune set I posted about last page (here), and it probably is Diancie's best set.
It doesn't make a terrible screens setter, either, but it's Crocune-Esque set is the one I've had the most success with.

Diancie @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast

Has trouble with Steel Types though. Basically any steel type ruins it's day if it doesn't have a few CM's set up. Excadrill and Mega Scizor are the bane of this thing's existance lol.
 
^ Not running Diamond Storm is almost a crime in my opinion. That move is so good and it can save Diancie from KO's from random Earthquakes, Bullet Punches and Waterfalls. Wouldn't it better to run it over Calm Mind?
 
Maybe you could try dropping Sleep Talk for it? A move with a big chance to boost your defence on a calm mind sweeper seems pretty useful.
 
Rotosect said:
^ Not running Diamond Storm is almost a crime in my opinion. That move is so good and it can save Diancie from KO's from random Earthquakes, Bullet Punches and Waterfalls. Wouldn't it better to run it over Calm Mind?
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You aren't going to kill anything without calm mind. With that set you're just giving free switches to set up mons.
 
Managed to scrape together a stall set. Makes a very good Talonflame counter.

Diancie @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock / Substitute
- Toxic
- Diamond Storm / Rock Slide
- Protect
 
By the way guys, back when we first learned Diancie's moveset and stats I theorymonned a bunch of sets and put them in the OP, and so if there are any there that catch your eye feel free to try them out.
 
From a Defensive Team Stance:

After a few ladder matches, I find Diancie chances of being OU low due to its main drawback being the 50 Base HP more than the easily prepared for common weaknesses, I like using it on my defensive team but at the sametime I often feel like something else could be there instead but I know nothing really can replace Diancie (LOL WTF IS A CARBINK?) because of how much it brings being able to check things that would otherwise have a field day with my team and providing me with the assistance of Sneaky pebbles. Overall I rate its viability in OU with at least a B- for now. Why didn't trollfreak give it at least 25 more base HP?

Edit: I've tried offensive Diancie with Rock Polish for 3 matches and died some inside. Perhaps I should wait until it's mega come out and try it again. Magic Bounce would really help the set out a lot if it has the stats to back it up knowing trollfreak...
 
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Interesting to note that Rock Polish Timid max Diancie hits 436 at +2, which is the whole unboosted metagame up to Jolly max MAerodactyl (which is 438 :c ) and all Scarfed mons up to base 82 (not that they exist). It's still scared of Azumarill and Scizor though, so you'd have to support it with idk a Magnezone or something.
 
Ohioisonfire said:
So it's basically a clone of Mega Absol but with Fairy slapped on its grill?
Huh.
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Not necessarily. 50/150/150 would have to decrease a lot to become as bad as 65/60/60. Plus, it didn't say a "great" decrease in defenses.
The wording is very vague, but I'm guessing it'll have 100 or more speed, and defenses that are still greater than 100. 50/130/130/130/130/130 is possible, but that's just theorymonning.

Haha Ohioisonfire very funny -_- Your post didn't seem sarcastic at all; you just sounded like one of the very many Diancie haters :P If you weren't, fine. No need to be a jerk about it.

Bazinga.
 
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Totally Not Xerneas
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Move 1: Calm Mind/Rock Polish
Move 2: Moonblast
Move 3: Psyshock
Move 4: HP Fire
Ability: Clear Body
Item: Diancite
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Speed
 
Prophet said:
Mega Diancie receives a great boost to speed and boosts to Atk and Spatk in exchange for reduced defenses...

Not sure how to feel.
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Here is the exact wording off of Pokemon.com:

"Also when Diancie Mega Evolves, its Speed increases greatly. Mega Diancie's Defense and Sp. Def both go down, but its Attack and Sp. Atk gain big boosts, making its Mega Evolution perfect for getting off fast attacks."

So Diancie's stats are currently 50/100/150/100/150/50. If I had to guess, it's meg stats would look something like this:

50/150/130/150/130/90 or something in the realm of that.
 
Prophet said:
Mega Diancie receives a great boost to speed and boosts to Atk and Spatk in exchange for reduced defenses...

Not sure how to feel.
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That's interesting, as it seems like it'll play quite differently to, rather than completely outclassing the normal form. The stat spread might be something like 50/100/150/100/150/50 600BST -> 50/140/120/140/120/130 700BST? It's going to end up being much bulkier, and better than Mega Absol, simply because of the higher BST, and it seems like it'll make much better use of Magic Bounce than Mega Absol too. Could be a very dangerous late-game sweeper in OU.
 
oh, and here I expected diancie's stats to become like this:
50 / 150 / 150 / 150 / 150 / 50

I don't know how hilarious that would be.
 
I have no idea how they're going to avoid accidentally giving MDiancie Arceus-level stats. Sure, we can't expect it to be quite as fast, and base 50 HP kinda hurts, but there's no way they can make it "frail" without having to put 150+ points into it's offenses. I think a "great boost to speed" would have to be more than 50+ because otherwise you end up with increases to offensive stats that are too ridiculously big. How will they manage this without making it OP? It's a Fairy with Magic Bounce... it's already good.
 
Im glad i read this thread, saw Diancie on Showdown and had no idea what to do.
On the other hand, Mega Diancie really reminds me of Aegislash Blade Forme. There are differences.
So, maybe, just maybe, when Mega Diancie comes out, it could be something like.
Diancie is floating with its Air Balloon! (Jk lol :P)
Diancie used Calm Mind!
*Mega Evolves*
Again, reminds me of Aegislash, since thats what some do, set up with good defenses, then hit like a truck.
 
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Pyritie said:
uh

you do know how mega evolution works, right?
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I do :P
I added in Air balloon for fun.
But still, i think thats how will most M-Diancie sets will play, at least the ones with calm mind, as I'm fairly sure M-Diancie can't afford to take a hit with its frail defenses setting up. Of course, Priority users (Scizor says hai) would simply KO it before it can set-up, or just switch into it whilst it is setting up.
That being said, I'm not exactly sure if people would run Hidden Power-Fire on it just to get things like Scizor or Breloom.
 
Caiahar said:
I do :P
I added in Air balloon for fun.
But still, i think thats how will most M-Diancie sets will play, at least the ones with calm mind, as I'm fairly sure M-Diancie can't afford to take a hit with its frail defenses setting up. Of course, Priority users (Scizor says hai) would simply KO it before it can set-up, or just switch into it whilst it is setting up.
That being said, I'm not exactly sure if people would run Hidden Power-Fire on it just to get things like Scizor or Breloom.
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Why would a Fairy Type worry about Breloom? No Breloom is going to switch into Diance. The real problems are Scizor and Azumarill. Without HP Diancie can't deal with either one, and even with HP Diancie can only deal with one at a time. I hope she gets Moonlight in ORAS, a mixed stall set seems like it would be really good if she could get reliable recovery.
 
pkmn-taicho321 said:
Why would a Fairy Type worry about Breloom? No Breloom is going to switch into Diance. The real problems are Scizor and Azumarill. Without HP Diancie can't deal with either one, and even with HP Diancie can only deal with one at a time. I hope she gets Moonlight in ORAS, a mixed stall set seems like it would be really good if she could get reliable recovery.
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I was thinking more about TechniSeed Breloom, with focus sash. Not sure if it would be much of a threat.
And if I'm correct, Diancie would take neutral damage from fighting? Although I'd be more worried about Bullet seed, and We'll see if Diancie gets any better moves, since its movepool is a bit limited.
 
Interesting that Mega Diancie is taking a completely different route than regular. Assuming they take 10 points minimum from each defense, I'm hoping for something like 50/130/140/130/140/110. Then I'd pull the following:

Diancie@Diancite
Naive; 96 Atk / 160 SpA / 252 Spe

HP Fire
Moonblast
Calm Mind
Diamond Storm

Naive nature to preserve the speed tier and because Diancie's resistances tend to be physical. Calm Mind + Moonblast is the main form of offense while also patching up Diancie's SpD. HP Fire is chosen to hit steel-types, including Scizor as it comes in. 96 Atk EVs allow Diamond Storm to OHKO Bulky CharX with Stealth Rock but also 2HKOs 252/0 Azumarill assuming rocks; the defense boost makes it a little easier to take Aqua Jet if necessary. I don't know that MDiancie will have many other options.

That said, what is everyone doing with regular Diancie?
 
Recently I've been using a set of...

The Bulk is Real (Diancie) @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic

Since Diamond Storm raises your Defense anyways, investing in full SpDef gives it bulk on both sides. Moonblast, SR, and Toxic can be substituted for Dual Screens (keeping 1, obviously).
 
Caiahar said:
I was thinking more about TechniSeed Breloom, with focus sash. Not sure if it would be much of a threat.
And if I'm correct, Diancie would take neutral damage from fighting? Although I'd be more worried about Bullet seed, and We'll see if Diancie gets any better moves, since its movepool is a bit limited.
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Breloom can't switch in to Moonblast though, even with Focus Sash Diance will just switch out and you have a half dead Breloom

I resubmit:

Diancie~ Leftovers

Impish/ Careful

~ Stealth Rock
~ Diamond Storm
~ Toxic
~ Explosion/Reflect/Light Screen

252 HP/ 252 SpD / 4 Atk

Could slash in Moonblast too, but honestly I don't think this thing is going to be good for much of anything besides forcing switches. It's a decently good TR setter I guess? One of the few that isn't Dark/ Bug weak, no?
 
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