Good bye, gengar, gliscor and ferrothorn.
-
Check out the relaunch of our general collection, with classic designs and new ones by our very own Pissog!
-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
Pokémon Diggersby
- Thread starter Upstart
- Start date
- Status
Diggersby will run with a lot of sets and combinations. He can use Assault Vest, Life Orb, Choice Band, Scarf, etc.
Well let's see:
Notable New Moves:
Knock Off, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Superpower, Iron Tail, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Low Kick, Gunk Shot
How can it work in metagame?
Nothing will enter really safe in Diggersby. Maybe Skarmory. A bulky set can resist to Charizard Y, Mach Punch Breloom, Manectric HP Ice, etc.
Well let's see:
Notable New Moves:
Knock Off, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Superpower, Iron Tail, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Low Kick, Gunk Shot
How can it work in metagame?
Nothing will enter really safe in Diggersby. Maybe Skarmory. A bulky set can resist to Charizard Y, Mach Punch Breloom, Manectric HP Ice, etc.
Hey guys I see there was some discussion about Diggersby after the new moves were released but it seems to have died out. Anyway I've been running a Scarf Diggersby with Earthquake/Return/Knock Off/U-turn and it works pretty well at luring Skarmory/Ferrothorn to remove Shed Shell with Knock Off if they have it. This is great because I'm running it with a core of Scarf Magnezone and Bulky DD Mega Altaria with Earthquake. However it seems like that set is outclassed by Scarf Lando-T. Basically the differences between the two end up being:
Pros of Diggersby:
- More power with its ability it basically has ~160 base Attack
- A better secondary STAB with Return/Frustration
- Potential to run Elemental Punches/Gunk Shot to deal with key targets (null factor for me as I'm using it's synergy with Magnezone)
Cons of Diggersby compared to Lando-T:
- Slower so it can't deal with things like Adamant Char-X with a boost
- No ability if you think of it as having ~160 base Attack compared to the great utility of Intimidate
- Lower bulk especially physically when you account Intimidate
- Worse defensive typing as Normal gives an immunity to a seldom used attack type compared to flying that gives immunity/resistance to the common Ground/Fighting
Anyone else think Scarfed is out classed?
Pros of Diggersby:
- More power with its ability it basically has ~160 base Attack
- A better secondary STAB with Return/Frustration
- Potential to run Elemental Punches/Gunk Shot to deal with key targets (null factor for me as I'm using it's synergy with Magnezone)
Cons of Diggersby compared to Lando-T:
- Slower so it can't deal with things like Adamant Char-X with a boost
- No ability if you think of it as having ~160 base Attack compared to the great utility of Intimidate
- Lower bulk especially physically when you account Intimidate
- Worse defensive typing as Normal gives an immunity to a seldom used attack type compared to flying that gives immunity/resistance to the common Ground/Fighting
Anyone else think Scarfed is out classed?
Bunny got banned from UU hence why discussion died down. Bunny too strong for UU...
Digger and landot are 2 different pokemon. Digger is a wallbreaker, landot is a pivot (fast pivot (and a revenge killer) with the scarf, bulky pivot with lefties and a bulkyer evs spread). With a scarf landorus is indeed better. Even if they have a common counter in skarmory.
Has more sense saying landorus incarnat/digger, because are both wallbreakers.
Diggersby @ Life Orb
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Return
- Quick Attack
This is the same set used in xy, but fire punch can be used over return or quick attack for 2kho ferrothorn and 3kho skarmory without using swords dance (with sd is a 1kho and a 2kho). LO is probably better over a sash for not be always forced to use sd for deal damages.
I've been using an Agility+3 attack LO set for a while and not only have I not been able to take advantage of Agility at all, but I feel like I have been missing out on hitting some key threats hard. I was just wondering if the following set would be a viable choice to go with:
Diggersby@Life Ob
EV's: 252 Attack/252 Spe/4 Def
Trait: Huge Power
Adamant Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Knock Off
-Fire Punch
I know I know, no priority seems to kill the bunny's viability, but something worse that I have been facing is the fact I can't break through standard Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor. Thanks to the move tutors in ORAS, this can be fixed simply by throwing Fire Punch onto the set while also dealing some decent damage to Skarmory. In theory, it should wreck stall to hell, but should do a good job at wallbreaking against bulky offense and balanced teams. It probably can't do a damn thing against HO though.
Diggersby@Life Ob
EV's: 252 Attack/252 Spe/4 Def
Trait: Huge Power
Adamant Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Knock Off
-Fire Punch
I know I know, no priority seems to kill the bunny's viability, but something worse that I have been facing is the fact I can't break through standard Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor. Thanks to the move tutors in ORAS, this can be fixed simply by throwing Fire Punch onto the set while also dealing some decent damage to Skarmory. In theory, it should wreck stall to hell, but should do a good job at wallbreaking against bulky offense and balanced teams. It probably can't do a damn thing against HO though.
why not run quick attack over knock off?
the only thing you would miss out on is 2HKOing fully defensive Cress, but get really good priority in exchange
The priority hasn't been a problem for me since I use a triple bunny team (Diggersby, Loppuny, and Azumarrill) but there are times where I wish I had Quick Attack but not as much as Fire Punch.
Guidorealmsmc is taking this over. Locking.
- Status