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XY OU Dragonite Revenge

Oblerius

Oblerius

Hello Guys, I would to create a competitive offensive team on 3ds that turns around dragonite, but I need your help and good advices :)
Here's my team:

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Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake/FirePunch
- Extreme Speed
- Dragon Dance

The lead of my team, classic set with DD/Multiscale to resist to supereffectives and outspeed enemies.
EXspeed is a "must", DClaw for STAB and EQ or firepunch to coverage.

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Mawile (M) @ Mawilite
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Play Rough
- Focus Punch
- Sucker Punch

I'm not sure if play this with Sub+FocusPunch or classic set with DD, fire fang, sucker and playrough...anyway mawile+dragonite+greninja are a quite solid core I think... although I'm not very satisfied...mawile is not resistant...

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Greninja (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Extrasensory
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse/ Hp grass/ U-turn

...and greninja with a classic set, even if maybe I'll take away Hydro pump for Scald...but i'm
thoughtful about his 4th move...Dark pulse, Hp fire, HP grass or U-turn??

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Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Heat Wave
- Defog
- Roost

My lovely Defogger, Classic Bold set and Roost to recover PS. I prefer Discharge to thunderbolt to major possibility to PAR enemies.


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Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SDef / 8 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Roar
- toxic/Wow
- Stealth Rock

My setter heatran, I use his for a stall team too. A perfect special stall to fairy that may threaten Dnite. I'm undecided about toxic or Wow because of the great numer of steel type in meta and the useful of WoW to reduce Atk of enemy. Then, ROar or protect?
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Landorus (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earth Power
- Focus Blast
- Psychic
- Knock Off

My last pokemon, special sweeper with knock off and sheerForce+LifeOrb to
cause so much damage...Epower, Psychic and FBlast to coverage.

So, I'm waiting for your comments (about pokemon, moveset, EVs...) and I hope thanks to you to complete this team finally once and for all so as to have fun after so much effort! Thanks! :)
 
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Hey there, so I will acknowledge what I think are big threats to your team and then recommend changes.

1. Mega Charizard X

It seems to me that if ZardX gets an opportunity to set up then it rolls your team. Landorus will be slower after a Dragon Dance and will be OHKOed, Heatran dies if the ZardX is as offensive DD ZardX with Earthquake, and the rest go down as well. Consider using this Landorus set:

Landorus (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Earth Power
- Focus Blast
- Psychic
- Sludge Wave

This set will allow you to do much better against ZardX because if the enemy tries to set up a Dragon Dance and sweep then you will be capable of out-speeding it and killing it before it has a chance to do anything! This set is very good at revenge killing ZardX, mind you, as it is advised not to take a direct hit from ZardX when you expected him to DD because you will not take it well.

2. Greninja

A staple of 6th Generation offense, this Pokemon can be very difficult to deal with at times. Tbh it's very understandable that your team doesn't have any reliable switch-ins.

3. Azumarill

The same applies to Azumarill, your team simply doesn't have a reliable check/counter which is important considering how ubiquitous this Pokemon is, at least from my perspective.

For my last recommendation, I will commend using Ferrothorn instead of Heatran. It's a very reliable Azumarill checks because Azumarill almost never uses Superpower now, it's also a good Greninja check, and it's a very reliable Stealth Rocker just like Heatran. Try this set:

name: Utility
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Protect / Gyro Ball / Knock Off
ability: Iron Barbs
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
nature: Impish / Relaxed

Hope I helped :)
 
So I should put in my team landorus Scarf and Ferrothorn>Heatran? Or I can make some changes as a rotom-w or keldeo?
 
Yes, so great advices! :) but I think that terrakion could be too not resistant as setter...But i dont know...white what about landorus with knock off? Someone days me to change rotomW>landorus and terrakion scarf jolly> greninja... What di you think?
 
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