No I said I think liquid has vote protection thanks for reading me
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NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread
- Thread starter Evie
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I dont think what he said was telling. Its annoying to be voted in general. Or maybe thats a me thing IDK I dont see it but Ill respect your opinion.
I mean if realiti was mafia they would not be doing this convoluted play of persuading my vote to realiti and then having realiti frame town!AP that's just crazy they would just put me on AP. I'm guessing the mafia did not expect the tracker claim and thus probably hoped there was some world in which they could pull off a realiti vote, probably by stealth or something.
Okay my head is spinning in circles. We need to understand why AP was not voted out yesterday.
No one has claimed a role that lets them avoid a vote other than AirC. AirC is claiming that they never purposefully targeted AP. So the explanation is that there is an unknown bus driver who has somehow managed to avoid affecting any one else's role in the game.
We know mafia has a role block. We know mafia has a persuade like role, that leaves them two left, which would probably be something like Bus Drive + chaff. Okay reasonable, it's a possibility.
Scenario A: AP/the mafia have an ability to nullify the vote. Or they have secret votes and tied it, but most likely not. This is probably a 1x ability.
Scenario B: Town AirC was bus driven between themselves and AP. I do give some credit to this theory because I can mafia driving their important member AP with Airc who was pretty nonthreatening at the time. However, AirC's claim to not being able to target themselves again even though they got no result is suspicious which makes me not believe this theory. Come to think of it, why is AirC even using this ability? You should just idle it lol. The use cases where this role is good for town is like basically 0.
Scenario C: Mafia AirC decides to target Town AP because....I have no idea. I guess to gain town credit? Seriously there's no way anyone is ever using the role to help the town out lmao. I'm discarding this scenario.
Scenario D: Mafia AirC targets Mafia teammate AP. This also makes sense because we have no additional evidence there's a bus driver or redirector. AP was under heat and presumably has a good role they want to keep alive or else otherwise try and get to parity. This is fairly reasonable.
Scenario E: Both are town and we luck out from mafia bus driving badly. I mean maybe but surely if mafia has a bus driver in this situation, they are driving between pulsar/miyami and one of themselves. So I'm not giving this scenario too much credibility.
For me A/D makes the most sense (Idk why I rewrote the same thing twice tbh lol). B could also be true but hard to see it.
AP's position that mafia Airc targeted them because ??? is also pretty crazy and now apparently larry is town. umm okay. I guess it is interesting they didn't immediately jump to the "realiti is still mafia" train but did somewhat reevaluate that read.
Okay my head is spinning in circles. We need to understand why AP was not voted out yesterday.
No one has claimed a role that lets them avoid a vote other than AirC. AirC is claiming that they never purposefully targeted AP. So the explanation is that there is an unknown bus driver who has somehow managed to avoid affecting any one else's role in the game.
We know mafia has a role block. We know mafia has a persuade like role, that leaves them two left, which would probably be something like Bus Drive + chaff. Okay reasonable, it's a possibility.
Scenario A: AP/the mafia have an ability to nullify the vote. Or they have secret votes and tied it, but most likely not. This is probably a 1x ability.
Scenario B: Town AirC was bus driven between themselves and AP. I do give some credit to this theory because I can mafia driving their important member AP with Airc who was pretty nonthreatening at the time. However, AirC's claim to not being able to target themselves again even though they got no result is suspicious which makes me not believe this theory. Come to think of it, why is AirC even using this ability? You should just idle it lol. The use cases where this role is good for town is like basically 0.
Scenario C: Mafia AirC decides to target Town AP because....I have no idea. I guess to gain town credit? Seriously there's no way anyone is ever using the role to help the town out lmao. I'm discarding this scenario.
Scenario D: Mafia AirC targets Mafia teammate AP. This also makes sense because we have no additional evidence there's a bus driver or redirector. AP was under heat and presumably has a good role they want to keep alive or else otherwise try and get to parity. This is fairly reasonable.
Scenario E: Both are town and we luck out from mafia bus driving badly. I mean maybe but surely if mafia has a bus driver in this situation, they are driving between pulsar/miyami and one of themselves. So I'm not giving this scenario too much credibility.
For me A/D makes the most sense (Idk why I rewrote the same thing twice tbh lol). B could also be true but hard to see it.
AP's position that mafia Airc targeted them because ??? is also pretty crazy and now apparently larry is town. umm okay. I guess it is interesting they didn't immediately jump to the "realiti is still mafia" train but did somewhat reevaluate that read.
Is this a troll post? Do you seriously believe this?
I mean this is objectively true but also claiming you are an "invest" when gou are actually a vigilante is also something one should never do as town. It wouldnt surprise me at all for town to fling around their shiny toy. AirC is maf just not for this reason.
I don't agree, I think there are lots of opportunities where lying about your role can be beneficial. In any case, the question remains: why did MAFIA AirC decide to target town you?
AirC claimed to not be allowed to target AP again today but also claimed being able to self target today iirc
1) its objectively antitown
2) he probably earns some utility for doing so (like the maf NK)
3) possibly hes not allowed to target maf with it
4) wifom play idk
Sorry my wording was bad. What I meant was that Airc "discovered" their actual target from being told by the host they couldn't target AP again. That's not standard hosting. Your action would just fail with no notice.
anyways SHYP makes a good point. Why was AirC even considering targeted someone they were scum reading since day 1 (in their own words)
??? why would this question even possibly come up
I lied. I have no idea what you are talking about lol can you claim
Because I've not swapped yet, I usually vote early or not at all and then don't change until my mind is set
What does vote sticker mean
I'm not off AP, AP is still in my scumcore, but if Jalmont is scum and has double vote, it's way more important to get Jalmont out first. Also you don't have to guess when I targeted myself since I "targeted" (in quotes) AP D2, which is 100% backed up by the fact he didn't die
I guess to play devils advocate, he would have to have suspected something was awry so he could have asked as a way to try and confirm it. I do think that would ultimately be a strange mod decision to do that
Myself
I dont follow this.
Idk? Because my role does something and that something just happened so it's a fair assumption to wonder if I could have caused it
I'm just saying dude, I'm not the universal source for all things mafia but I've never encountered a scenario like this nor have I considered targeting someone who I thought was mafia with a role that would stop their vote and then be told by the host that I couldn't do that because I targeted them already.