Electric Arceus (Analysis)(GP 2/2)

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Mention Grass Knot in AC for complete Groudon ownage. Also whatever you do don't put Thunderbolt>Judgment.)

Electric Arceus is really a boss.




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IT STRIKES LIKE LIGHTNING!

[Overview]

<p>That pulsating, tingling sensation you are feeling right now isn't a coincidence. Behold! The master of the world crackles with excitement with the Zap Plate attached to His hide. Electric Arceus wields near-perfect neutral coverage with just His mighty Judgment and Ice Beam, forcing any adversary to cower with fear as little children do at the sound of thunder. And with only a single weakness to the Ground-type to short-circuit His presence on the battlefield, the creator has little to fear once He has boosted enough times with Calm Mind. Just be wary of Groudon stealing your rain if using the mighty Thunder, and the power of the speedy Garchomp, and you'll find that there is shockingly little that can stop Electric Arceus from taking the Uber tier by storm.</p>

[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Judgment / Thunder
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Recover
item: Zap Plate
nature: Timid
evs: 100 HP / 100 Def / 100 SpA / 100 SpD / 100 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Out of all the different formes of Arceus, none are as offensively oriented as Electric Arceus. Electric is a fantastic typing to have, bringing only one weakness, and hence allowing Electric Arceus to exploit its natural bulk. Electric-type STAB is also very useful in Ubers as few Pokemon are immune to it. Although Judgment is preferred for its better accuracy, Thunder provides a more powerful alternative and is especially useful if rain support can be provided. Judgment and Ice Beam have unparalleled coverage in the tier, hitting many Ubers for super effective damage, including Giratina(-O), Garchomp, Groudon, Rayquaza, Kyogre, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Salamence. Also, Electric Arceus is one of the few Calm Mind Arceus variants capable of beating Ho-Oh and Kyogre one-on-one. Lastly, Recover allows Arceus to set up much more easily and works very well thanks to Arceus's magnificent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Thunderbolt can be used over Judgment due to having 8 more PP and a slight chance of paralysis, which can be useful in a Calm Mind war against Latias or Latios. Substitute can be used in place of Recover to protect against status, but Recover does more in the way of keeping Arceus alive. Mixed Rayquaza is a perfect partner since it is immune to Earthquake and can hit Groudon with an unexpected Draco Meteor. It can also pick off weakened Choice Scarf users with ExtremeSpeed. A combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can be used to eliminate pesky special walls like Blissey. The combination also helps with Garchomp, since Scizor can take an unboosted Outrage and Wobbuffet can KO Scarf versions with Counter. Wobbuffet can also help Arceus set up thanks to Encore. Thunder Wave Kyogre lures in lots of Choice Scarf Pokémon, especially Palkia, and can cripple them with Thunder Wave. Surf and Ice Beam also do a lot of damage to Groudon and Garchomp, respectively. Jirachi can also provide paralysis support with Body Slam, and has the added benefit of being able to cripple Groudon and Garchomp. Wish support can also replace Recover, although it is much more difficult to heal Arceus with it. However, be aware that Jirachi shares Electric Arceus's Ground-type weakness. Entry hazard support is extremely helpful for this set: Stealth Rock is mandatory as always, Toxic Spikes helps wear down opponents, and Spikes can help Arceus nab OHKOs, such as on Groudon switching in. Froslass, Deoxys-S, Deoxys-A, and Forretress can help for these reasons.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Grass Knot can be used to destroy any Groudon hoping to wall Electric Arceus and has a slim chance of OHKOing after a Calm Mind. Grass Knot also gets a stronger hit on Ground Arceus, but Ice Beam is usually the better option since it will easily OHKO Garchomp and Rayquaza, the former of which can be a major threat to Electric Arceus. Earth Power can be used to deal with Heatran, Magnezone, and Tyranitar, but the moves listed in the set are generally superior.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Groudon is public enemy number one, as it is immune to Electric-type attacks and gets rid of the rain. It also OHKOes Arceus with Earthquake. However, even Groudon must be careful because Arceus outruns it and a boosted Ice Beam does 65.8% - 77.7% to support variants, meaning that Groudon can't take much prior damage. Garchomp is faster and can destroy Arceus with Earthquake while being immune to Judgment and Thunder. Again, Garchomp must be wary of switching into Ice Beam. Blissey can stop Electric Arceus cold if it lacks Substitute. Arceus's gimped Speed stat is also one of its weak points, leaving it prone to being revenge killed by all Pokemon above the base 100 Speed tier.</p>
 

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Scary set. Mention that it is one of the few Calm Mind Arceus that can actually take on Ho-Oh and Kyogre, which is a big plus (you sort of did but emphasize on it!).

Perhaps mention Thunderbolt somewhere as it has 8 more PP and has a slight chance of paralysis (which can be helpful in a CM war against Latias/Latios if you don't have access to rain)

 
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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Judgment / Thunder
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Recover
item: Zap Plate
evs: 100 HP / 100 Def / 100 SpA / 100 SpD / 100 Spe
nature: Timid

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Out of all the different formes of Arceus, none are as offensively centered as Electric Arceus. Electric is a fantastic typing to have and has only one weakness, allowing Electric Arceus to exploit its natural bulk. On the other hand Electric-type STAB is also very useful in Ubers due to few Pokemon being immune to it. Although Judgment is preferred for its better accuracy, Thunder provides a more powerful alternative and is especially useful if rain support can be provided. Judgment and Ice Beam has unparalleled coverage in the tier, hitting many Ubers for super effective damage, including Giratina(-O), Garchomp, Groudon, Rayquaza, Kyogre, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Salamence. Also, Electric Arceus is one of the few Calm Mind Arceus variants capable of beating Ho-Oh and Kyogre one-on-one. Lastly, Recover allows Arceus to set up much more easily and works very well thanks to Arceus's magnificent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Thunderbolt can be used over Judgment due to having 8 more PP and a slight chance of paralysis which can be useful in a Calm Mind war against Latias or Latios. Substitute can be used in place of Recover to protect against status, but Recover does more in the way of keeping Arceus alive. Mixed Rayquaza is a perfect partner since it is immune to Earthquake and can hit Groudon with an unexpected Draco Meteor. It can also pick off weakened Choice Scarf users with ExtremeSpeed. A combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can be used to eliminate those pesky special walls like Blissey. The combination also helps with Garchomp, since Scizor can take unboosted Outrage and Wobbuffet can KO Scarf versions with Counter. Wobbuffet can also help Arceus set up thanks to Encore. Thunder Wave Kyogre lures in lots of Choice Scarf Pokémon, especially Palkia, and can cripple them with Thunder Wave. Surf and Ice Beam also do a lot to of damage to Groudon and Garchomp, respectively. Jirachi can also provide paralysis support with Body Slam, and has the added benefit of being able to cripple Groudon and Garchomp. Wish support can also replace Recover, although it is much more difficult to heal Arceus with it. However, be aware that Jirachi shares Arceus's Ground-type weakness. Stealth Rock is mandatory as always. Since this is a bulky set, Toxic Spikes helps wear down the opponent further. Spikes can also help Arceus nab OHKOs on Groudon switching in. Froslass, Deoxys-S, Deoxys-A, and Forretress can help for these reasons.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Grass Knot can be used to destroy any Groudon hoping to wall Electric Arceus and has a slim chance of OHKOing after a Calm Mind. Grass Knot also gets a stronger hit on Ground Arceus, but Ice Beam is usually the better option since it will easily OHKO Garchomp and Rayquaza, the former of which can be a major threat to Electric Arceus. Earth Power can be used to deal with Heatran, Magnezone, and Tyranitar, but the moves listed in the set are generally superior.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Groudon is public enemy number one, as it is immune to Electric-type attacks and gets rid of the rain. It also OHKOes Arceus with Earthquake. However, even Groudon must be careful because a boosted Ice Beam does 65.8% - 77.7% to Support variants, meaning that Groudon can’t take much prior damage, and Arceus outspeeds it. Garchomp is faster and can destroy Arceus with Earthquake while being immune to Judgment and Thunder. Again, Garchomp must be wary of switching into an Ice Beam. Blissey can stop Electric Arceus cold if it lacks Substitute. Arceus's gimped Speed stat is also one of its weak points and leave, leaving it prone to being revenge killed by all Pokemon above the base 100 Speed tier.</p>




GP 1 / 2
 

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Thanks for the check C_P. Implemented. Also for anyone wondering about the Overview, I asked Fireburn if i could borrrow his epic 5th gen one since i am not sure I can write a better one.
 

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[SET]
name: Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Judgment / Thunder
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Recover
item: Zap Plate
evs: 100 HP / 100 Def / 100 SpA / 100 SpD / 100 Spe
nature: Timid

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Out of all the different formes of Arceus, none are as offensively oriented centered as Electric Arceus. Electric is a fantastic typing to have, bringing and has only one weakness, and hence allowing Electric Arceus to exploit its natural bulk. Electric-type STAB is also very useful in Ubers due to as few Pokemon being are immune to it. Although Judgment is preferred for its better accuracy, Thunder provides a more powerful alternative and is especially useful if rain support can be provided. Judgment and Ice Beam has have unparalleled coverage in the tier, hitting many Ubers for super effective damage, including Giratina(-O), Garchomp, Groudon, Rayquaza, Kyogre, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Salamence. Also, Electric Arceus is one of the few Calm Mind Arceus variants capable of beating Ho-Oh and Kyogre one-on-one. Lastly, Recover allows Arceus to set up much more easily and works very well thanks to Arceus's magnificent bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Thunderbolt can be used over Judgment due to having 8 more PP and a slight chance of paralysis, which can be useful in a Calm Mind war against Latias or Latios. Substitute can be used in place of Recover to protect against status, but Recover does more in the way of keeping Arceus alive. Mixed Rayquaza is a perfect partner since it is immune to Earthquake and can hit Groudon with an unexpected Draco Meteor. It can also pick off weakened Choice Scarf users with ExtremeSpeed. A combination of Tickle Wobbuffet and Pursuit Scizor can be used to eliminate those pesky special walls like Blissey. The combination also helps with Garchomp, since Scizor can take unboosted Outrage and Wobbuffet can KO Scarf versions with Counter. Wobbuffet can also help Arceus set up thanks to Encore. Thunder Wave Kyogre lures in lots of Choice Scarf Pokémon, especially Palkia, and can cripple them with Thunder Wave. Surf and Ice Beam also do a lot of damage to Groudon and Garchomp, respectively. Jirachi can also provide paralysis support with Body Slam, and has the added benefit of being able to cripple Groudon and Garchomp. Wish support can also replace Recover, although it is much more difficult to heal Arceus with it. However, be aware that Jirachi shares Arceus's Ground-type weakness. Entry hazard support is extremely helpful for this set: Stealth Rock is mandatory as always, Since this is a bulky set, Toxic Spikes helps wear down opponents, and the opponent further. Spikes can also help Arceus nab OHKOs, such as on Groudon switching in. Froslass, Deoxys-S, Deoxys-A, and Forretress can help for these reasons.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Grass Knot can be used to destroy any Groudon hoping to wall Electric Arceus and has a slim chance of OHKOing after a Calm Mind. Grass Knot also gets a stronger hit on Ground Arceus, but Ice Beam is usually the better option since it will easily OHKO Garchomp and Rayquaza, the former of which can be a major threat to Electric Arceus. Earth Power can be used to deal with Heatran, Magnezone, and Tyranitar, but the moves listed in the set are generally superior.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Groudon is public enemy number one, as it is immune to Electric-type attacks and gets rid of the rain. It also OHKOes Arceus with Earthquake. However, even Groudon must be careful because Arceus outruns it and a boosted Ice Beam does 65.8% - 77.7% to support variants, meaning that Groudon can’t take much prior damage, and Arceus outspeeds it. Garchomp is faster and can destroy Arceus with Earthquake while being immune to Judgment and Thunder. Again, Garchomp must be wary of switching into Ice Beam. Blissey can stop Electric Arceus cold if it lacks Substitute. Arceus's gimped Speed stat is also one of its weak points, leaving it prone to being revenge killed by all Pokemon above the base 100 Speed tier.</p>
edit - forgot to do this:



Overview is fine with Calm Pokemaster's changes.
 

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[Overview]

<p>That pulsating, tingling sensation your feeling right now isn't a coincidence. Behold! The master of the world crackles with excitement with the Zap Plate attached to His hide. Electric Arceus wields near-perfect neutral coverage with just His mighty Judgment and Ice Beam, forcing any adversary to cower with fear as little children do at the sound of thunder. And with only a single weakness to the Ground type to short-circuit His presence on the battlefield, the creator has little to fear once He has boosted enough times with Calm Mind. Just be wary of Groudon stealing your rain if using the mighty Thunder and the power of the speedy Garchomp, and you'll find that there is shockingly little that can stop Electric Arceus from taking the Uber tier by storm.</p>

Eh, I think it's good.
 
[Overview]

<p>That pulsating, tingling sensation you are feeling right now isn't a coincidence. Behold! The master of the world crackles with excitement with the Zap Plate attached to His hide. Electric Arceus wields near-perfect neutral coverage with just His mighty Judgment and Ice Beam, forcing any adversary to cower with fear as little children do at the sound of thunder. And with only a single weakness to the Ground-type to short-circuit His presence on the battlefield, the creator has little to fear once He has boosted enough times with Calm Mind. Just be wary of Groudon stealing your rain if using the mighty Thunder, and the power of the speedy Garchomp, and you'll find that there is shockingly little that can stop Electric Arceus from taking the Uber tier by storm.</p>

Little to fix. Excellent Overview, Oglemi!
 

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