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Evos for Everyone (Slate 21- Keep it Simple)
- Thread starter Brodaha
- Start date
Official Post: Slate 3 Winners
Congratulations to ToadBrigade for winning with Torkettle (what is this, the 4th solid rock clone?) and me (Brodaha) for winning with Anu Pipi.
We have a 2-way tie between mt0101 and Origin0 for Stantler. Get your tiebreaker votes in within ~20 hours.
I'm hoping to have a 5-person council, so 2 more people can join. PM me to apply.
Next slate will be up very quickly.
Congratulations to ToadBrigade for winning with Torkettle (what is this, the 4th solid rock clone?) and me (Brodaha) for winning with Anu Pipi.
We have a 2-way tie between mt0101 and Origin0 for Stantler. Get your tiebreaker votes in within ~20 hours.
I'm hoping to have a 5-person council, so 2 more people can join. PM me to apply.
Next slate will be up very quickly.
Haha yeah, just kidding.
Next slate might me up tomorrow actually, unless something changes.
Tiebreak: Origin0
Slate #4: Monotype
These Pokemon are all flying type.
Skarmory: Because Skarmory is already in OU, you can make the evolution for the Ubers metagame! Maximum ability ranking of 3, and 4 movepool additions.
Sigilyph: Sigilyph is pretty good in NU, but could really use an evolution. Maximum ability ranking of 3.5, but it already has a 4.5 rated ability (magic guard) so feel free to let it keep that. 5 movepool additions.
Yveltal: Yveltal will be our target for legendary prevolution. Will you give it access to Oblivion Wing and Dark Aura, or go a different route?
PM me if you want to join the council.
Tiebreaker votes are open until the end of the day.
These Pokemon are all flying type.
Skarmory: Because Skarmory is already in OU, you can make the evolution for the Ubers metagame! Maximum ability ranking of 3, and 4 movepool additions.
Sigilyph: Sigilyph is pretty good in NU, but could really use an evolution. Maximum ability ranking of 3.5, but it already has a 4.5 rated ability (magic guard) so feel free to let it keep that. 5 movepool additions.
Yveltal: Yveltal will be our target for legendary prevolution. Will you give it access to Oblivion Wing and Dark Aura, or go a different route?
PM me if you want to join the council.
Tiebreaker votes are open until the end of the day.
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They are technically counterparts, but Mantine has 20 higher BST, and I think the pet mod should stay true to the original idea of making evolutions for unevolved non-legendary pokemon.
Meet halfway and give it both? A Steel/Flying Pokémon with inverse Mantyke stats in Little Cup might be a lot of fun.
I don't disagree, but I don't want to make an exception on the usual format of things. Why not take this chance to enhance Ubers instead by making a Xerneas check, for example?
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skironclad
Evolves by being over level 50 and trading while holding a Metal Coat
Type:
Ability: Iron Barbs / Sturdy / Motor Drive (HA)
Stats: 85 / 110 / 160 / 45 / 100 / 100 | BST: 600 (+20 HP, +30 Atk, +20 Def, +5 SpA, +30 SpD, +30 Spe)
Move Additions: Metal Burst, Drill Run, Rapid Spin, Knock Off
Competitive Niche (OU/Ubers?): Very physically bulky with decent speed and attack. Iron Barbs punishes contact attackers while Motor Drive removes one of its weaknesses. In Ubers, it could potentially serve as a Xerneas check, with Motor Drive protecting it from Thunder.
Original Pokemon Name: Sigilyph
New Pokemon Name: Psychoglyph
Evolves with Dawn Stone
Type:
Ability: Mental Drain* / Tinted Lens / Magic Guard (HA)
Mental Drain* - Psychic-type Lightningrod
Stats: 82 / 58 / 90 / 130 / 90 / 130 | BST: 575 (+10 HP, +10 Def, +27 SpA, +10 SpD, +28 Spe)
Move Additions: Power Gem, Earth Power, Moonblast, Nasty Plot, Focus Blast
Competitive Niche (OU): Fast special attacker that can switch into Psychic spam with Mental Drain.
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New Pokemon Name: Glyphlite
Evolves with Thunder Stone
Type:
Ability: Lightningrod / Tinted Lens / Magic Guard (HA)
Stats: 107 / 58 / 100 / 115 / 105 / 90 | BST: 575 (+35 HP, +20 Def, +12 SpA, +25 SpD, -7 Spe)
Move Additions: Thunderbolt, Thunder, Earth Power, Nasty Plot, Volt Switch
Competitive Niche (OU): Bulky special attacker, can potentially counter Tapu Koko with Lightningrod and Earth Power.
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Original Pokemon Name: Sigilyph
New Pokemon Name: Sigilispire
Type: Psychic / Flying
Ability: Magic Guard / Spiritualist (This pokemon is immune to steel-type attacks, and gains +1 SpD when targeted by one.) / Berserk
Stats: 82 (+10) / 58 / 95 (+15) / 123 (+20) / 110 (+30) / 97 | BST: 565
New Moves: Earth Power, Thunderbolt, Moonblast, Sigil Shot (Special, Flying, Spirit Shackle clone)
Competitive Niche (OU): Bulky special sweeper who can effectively trap any threats, especially steel types when using Spiritualist.
Original Pokemon Name: Yveltal
New Pokemon Name: Yveltiny
Type: Dark / Flying
Ability: Prankster
Stats: 60 / 78 / 46 / 78 / 55 / 67 | BST: 384
Removed Moves: Hurricane, Sucker Punch, Foul Play
Competitive Niche (LC): A Dark/Flying type that fills a much different role than Vullaby. It can reliably recover with Prankster Roost or Oblivion Wing, or even use a more risky Prankster RestTalk combination for priority on every move.
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skarsenal
Type: Steel / Flying
Ability: Keen Eye / Sturdy / Magnetic Field (When this Pokemon is on the field, there is always an Embargo effect on all active pokemon, including this one.)
Stats: 95 / 105 / 175 / 50 / 115 / 70 | BST: 605
Added Moves: Iron Head, Metal Burst, Beak Blast, Acrobatics
Competitive Niche (Ubers): This thing can beat Xerneas in lots of ways because of it's ability. It can also cripple physical attackers with Beak Blast and it's great defense.
Some sets:
Geomancy Stopper (Skarsenal)
Ability: Magnetic Field
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Atk / 164 Def
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Whirlwind
- Beak Blast
- Roost
EVs let it 2HKO Xerneas with Iron Head, and avoid OHKO by Thunder if geomancy hasn't boosted yet. Mostly, you want to switch in and cancel out power herb, then whirlwind Xerneas out to stop the boosts.
Geomancy Stopper (Skarsenal)
Ability: Magnetic Field
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Atk / 164 Def
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Whirlwind
- Beak Blast
- Roost
EVs let it 2HKO Xerneas with Iron Head, and avoid OHKO by Thunder if geomancy hasn't boosted yet. Mostly, you want to switch in and cancel out power herb, then whirlwind Xerneas out to stop the boosts.
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Just realized I haven't voted yet, so I'm going to vote for Origin0. Congratulations on winning with Antlerrein! and I feel kind of bad for making the tiebreaking vote mt0101, nothing personal though.
Going to delete my old post to avoid triple post, so I quoted it.
EDIT: Keep in mind you can use custom abilities already added! Check the spreadsheet for custom moves and abilities.
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Time travel themed split Skarmory evos:
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skarrorbird
Evolves by leveling up past level 70 with Dialga in the party.
Type:
Ability: Light Runner* / Defiant (HA)
*Light Runner - Reduces damage from Ground-type moves by 50%.
Stats: 70 / 140 / 160 / 85 / 110 / 100 | BST: 665 (+5 HP, +60 Atk, +20 Def, +45 SpA, +40 SpD, +30 Spe)
Move Additions: Talon Kick, Close Combat, Earthquake, Outrage
*Talon Kick - 100 BP Physical Dragon-type move. Increased critical hit ratio ( Spatial Rend clone )
Competitive Niche (Ubers): Dialga is pretty underwhelming in Ubers, and this should fill the role of Dragon/Steel-type tank much better. Light Runner improves your walling ability and matchup vs. the top physical threats of Ubers such as Groudon-P, Zygarde-C, Necrozma-DM, and Mega Salamence. Defiant improves your matchup vs. Defog users like Arceus and Yveltal, which pairs extremely well with its access to Stealth Rock and Spikes. Talon Kick is a strong, reliable Dragon STAB.
Flavor: The terror bird was a giant, flightless, predatory bird that went extinct thousands of years ago. Sort of like Yanmega, this is an evo where Skarmory gets in touch with its prehistoric past. Of course, the terror bird descended from flying birds rather than the other way around, but it's very similar to other, feathered, predators that did pre-date feathered flight. Game Freak mixes these types of things up all the time so it's fine for the name I think; Skarrorbird is more like a Velociraptor, though. More specifically, it's a Serikornis. With metallic feathers and a beak.
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skarbine
Evolves by leveling up past level 70 with Celebi in the party.
Type:
Ability: Mach Flight* / Competitive (HA)
*Mach Flight - Reduces damage from Fighting-type moves by 50%.
Stats: 70 / 85 / 140 / 110 / 100 / 160 | BST: 665 (+5 HP, +5 Atk, +0 Def, +70 SpA, +30 SpD, +90 Spe)
Move Additions: Iron Bullet*, Eagle Eye*, Focus Blast, Hurricane
*Iron Bullet - 100 BP Special Steel-type move. Hits against the foe's physical defense ( Psystrike clone )
*Eagle Eye - Raises SpA, SpD, and Accuracy by one stage ( Coil clone )
Competitive Niche (Ubers): Super fast support pokemon. Can afford to invest EV's in bulk and still outspeed most of the metagame, as well as being able to speed creep anything it wants aside from Deo-S. 16 Speed EV's and Timid lets you outspeed Mewtwo and Mega Gengar, for instance. Eagle Eye would allow it to function as a bulky win condition as well, although it needs multiple boosts to start hitting hard. Competitive is to discourage Defog while Mach Flight lets you deal with Marshadow and Mega Lucario more easily.
Flavor: What does the future of evolution hold in store for birds? Intelligence most likely. Skarbine makes use of this with special attacks and a focus on support and setup moves. The name comes from "carbine", a type of rifle, as Skarbine can regurgitate metal balls at incredible speed as it flies past. Skarmory's pokedex always mentions how fast it flies, so a high speed evo also makes sense for it. Dialga and Celebi are needed for these evos as they can travel through time. Celebi in particular represents the future.
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skarrorbird
Evolves by leveling up past level 70 with Dialga in the party.
Type:
Ability: Light Runner* / Defiant (HA)
*Light Runner - Reduces damage from Ground-type moves by 50%.
Stats: 70 / 140 / 160 / 85 / 110 / 100 | BST: 665 (+5 HP, +60 Atk, +20 Def, +45 SpA, +40 SpD, +30 Spe)
Move Additions: Talon Kick, Close Combat, Earthquake, Outrage
*Talon Kick - 100 BP Physical Dragon-type move. Increased critical hit ratio ( Spatial Rend clone )
Competitive Niche (Ubers): Dialga is pretty underwhelming in Ubers, and this should fill the role of Dragon/Steel-type tank much better. Light Runner improves your walling ability and matchup vs. the top physical threats of Ubers such as Groudon-P, Zygarde-C, Necrozma-DM, and Mega Salamence. Defiant improves your matchup vs. Defog users like Arceus and Yveltal, which pairs extremely well with its access to Stealth Rock and Spikes. Talon Kick is a strong, reliable Dragon STAB.
Physical Wall:
252 HP / 252 Def, Impish @ Leftovers, Light Runner
Iron Head / Talon Kick
Spikes / Defog
Roost
Whirlwind
Sweeper:
252 Atk / 252 Spe, Jolly @ Groundium Z, Defiant
Swords Dance
Talon Kick
Earthquake / Close Combat
Agility / Iron Head
252 HP / 252 Def, Impish @ Leftovers, Light Runner
Iron Head / Talon Kick
Spikes / Defog
Roost
Whirlwind
Sweeper:
252 Atk / 252 Spe, Jolly @ Groundium Z, Defiant
Swords Dance
Talon Kick
Earthquake / Close Combat
Agility / Iron Head
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Skarbine
Evolves by leveling up past level 70 with Celebi in the party.
Type:
Ability: Mach Flight* / Competitive (HA)
*Mach Flight - Reduces damage from Fighting-type moves by 50%.
Stats: 70 / 85 / 140 / 110 / 100 / 160 | BST: 665 (+5 HP, +5 Atk, +0 Def, +70 SpA, +30 SpD, +90 Spe)
Move Additions: Iron Bullet*, Eagle Eye*, Focus Blast, Hurricane
*Iron Bullet - 100 BP Special Steel-type move. Hits against the foe's physical defense ( Psystrike clone )
*Eagle Eye - Raises SpA, SpD, and Accuracy by one stage ( Coil clone )
Competitive Niche (Ubers): Super fast support pokemon. Can afford to invest EV's in bulk and still outspeed most of the metagame, as well as being able to speed creep anything it wants aside from Deo-S. 16 Speed EV's and Timid lets you outspeed Mewtwo and Mega Gengar, for instance. Eagle Eye would allow it to function as a bulky win condition as well, although it needs multiple boosts to start hitting hard. Competitive is to discourage Defog while Mach Flight lets you deal with Marshadow and Mega Lucario more easily.
Support:
252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe, Timid @ Leftovers, Competitive
Iron Bullet
Spikes / Defog
Roost
Taunt
Win Condition:
252 HP / 240 SpA / 16 Spe, Timid @ Leftovers, Mach Flight
Eagle Eye
Hurricane
Focus Blast
Roost / Iron Bullet
252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe, Timid @ Leftovers, Competitive
Iron Bullet
Spikes / Defog
Roost
Taunt
Win Condition:
252 HP / 240 SpA / 16 Spe, Timid @ Leftovers, Mach Flight
Eagle Eye
Hurricane
Focus Blast
Roost / Iron Bullet
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New Pokemon Name: Skarmauer (Skarmory + German for wall)
Type: Steel/Flying
New Moves: Toxic Spikes, Recover, Haze
Ability: Iron Barbs, Sturdy, Unaware
Stats: 100 / 104 / 161 / 52 / 112 / 91 (620 BST)
Competitive Niche: Xerneas? I don't know her. Even at +3 Xerneas struggles to 3HKO Skarmauer with Thunder thanks to great special bulk and Unaware. The existence of Skarmauer also forces Primal Groudon to run Lava Plume, making it's double dance and defensive sets less versatile since it would be walled otherwise (having Recover also avoids mind games predicting Precipice Blades). It also walls most common forms of Arceus. Despite a lot of the Ubers tier not having the ability to touch Skarmauer it is still threatened by Ho-oh, offensive Yveltal, Primal Groudon and Kyogre, and Zekrom but will also see the rise of currently unused Arceus forms, Mega Blaziken, and Reshiram. Having access to all hazards, phasing, hazing, recovery, Defog, Taunt makes Skarmauer somewhat unpredictable but also means it cannot fulfil all of its potential roles.
New Pokemon Name: Hierovian (Hieroglyph and Avian)
Type: Psychic/Flying
New Moves: Moonblast, Agility
Ability: Third Eye (Scrappy clone for Psychic moves), Magic Guard, Tinted Lens
Stats: 86 / 69 / 96 / 123 / 96 / 116 (586 BST)
Competitive Niche: Being able to hit Dark types with STAB Psychic moves allows Hierovian to run a very potent mono-attacking Stored Power set. With decent defensive stats it can set up with moves such as Calm Mind, Cosmic Power, Agility allowing Stored Power to quickly overpower the opponent. After two turns of set up Stored Power reaches 100 BP but with five weaknesses to common types it might struggle to set up without significant support. Of course it can also run a more standard set thanks to the amazing coverage it has access to.
New Pokemon Name: Yvelugh (Evil + Egg)
Type: Dark/Flying
New Moves: Cannot learn Hurricane or Heatwave
Ability: Imminent Destruction (Bad Dreams clone: If Yveltal attacks, target takes damage equal to 1/8 of its maximum HP at the end of the turn)
Stats: 60 / 90 / 40 / 90 / 35 / 50 (365 BST)
Competitive Niche: Yvelugh has access to very strong Knock Offs, one of the best moves in LC allowing it to remove the item Eviolite. It will most likely be a physical attacker since it does not have access to special Flying type moves at level 5. It can also hit top LC threats such as Mienfoo and Foongus with Acrobatics or Aerial Ace. Along with its great offensive capabilities it can also use utility moves such Taunt, Defog, Toxic, and Roost.
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Original Pokemon: Skarmory
Pokemon Evolution Name: Albatalion (Albatross + Battalion)
Type:
Ability: Guts / Sturdy | Iron Barbs (HA)
Stats: 105 / 125 / 150 / 50 / 100 / 70 | BST: 600
Move Additions: Metal Blades (!), Earthquake, Stone Edge, Hone Claws
(Metal Blades: Steel / Physical, 120 BP, 90% accuracy, 5 PPs. 20% chance to lower target's Attack by 1 stage. Z-Move: 195 BP)
Competitive Niche (Ubers only): Physical wall with Sturdy or Iron Barbs, bulky sweeper with Guts. Its outstanding physical bulk allows it to tank hits from many physical threats bars Ho-Oh and Primal Groudon, with access of Roost, Tailwind, Stealth Rocks and Defog, as well as Toxic of course. Going for a more offensive presence? Make sure to set up with Swords Dance/Hone Claws and equip with Flame Orb, and it functions even better in a Trick Room team this way.
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Original Pokemon: Skarmory
Pokemon Evolution Name: Albatalion (Albatross + Battalion)
Type:
Ability: Guts / Cloud Nine | Waver* (HA)
(Waver: Water-type Steelworker; Water-type attacks will deal 50% more damage.)
Stats: 105 / 150 / 125 / 50 / 100 / 70 | BST: 600
Move Additions: Waterfall, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Rapid Swimming (!)
(Rapid Swimming: Water-type Shift Gear)
Competitive Niche (Ubers only): 4x vulnerability to Electric-type is pretty worrisome... but Tapu Koko rather avoid Ubers thanks to Primal Groudon dominating the tier. To make up for its rather slow speed, it is able to resist Fire, Fighting and immune to Ground, common Uber offensive types, and have all three useful Abilities that makes it difficult to tell what it would use. Waver to make Waterfall devastating, Cloud Nine to mess up with Primal Groudon and OHKO it with Waterfall, and Guts to further boost and avoid annoying statuses like Sleep and Paralysis at the cost of residual damage. It might end up having Mega Gengar to run Thunderbolt and Arceus of any forms to run Thunderbolt too just to stop that threat.
Original Pokemon: Sigilyph
Pokemon Evolution Name: Ancilyph (Ancestor/Ancient + Glyph)
Type:
Ability: Fearless* / Magic Guard | Tinted Lens (HA)
(Fearless: Dark-type immunity. When about to be hit by one, increase Special Attack by 1 stage.)
Stats: 84 / 68 / 80 / 123 / 80 / 115 | BST: 550
Move Additions: Spiritual Mind*, Aura Sphere, Moonblast, Earth Power, Stored Power
(Spiritual Mind: Special Coil; Raise Special Attack, Special Defense and Accuracy by one stage each.)
Competitive Niche: Spiritual Mind and Charge Beam seems like a good combination. Why? The Special Attack raising from Spiritual Mind help stack further with Charge Beam while also fixing it its lower-than-100% accuracy, which in turn boost Stored Power further. Tinted Lens is dreadful with it, or if Dark-type poses so much problems, Fearless can solve it and help stopping Taunt and Knock Off. Magic Guard is still there if you want to play support with Defog and avoid Stealth Rock damage at the same time.
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A few things:
-Our council is now full. This council exists to vote on things that may come up in the future.
-I updated the spreadsheet with the recent changes and also organized it a bit more and added a title page. Go check it out if you haven't already. I still have a few minor changes to make, but it's mostly up to date.
Great submissions so far guys, keep up the good work. :)
-Our council is now full. This council exists to vote on things that may come up in the future.
-I updated the spreadsheet with the recent changes and also organized it a bit more and added a title page. Go check it out if you haven't already. I still have a few minor changes to make, but it's mostly up to date.
Great submissions so far guys, keep up the good work. :)
Honestly Eviolite is going to make Skarmory really good in OU. Skarmory is currently in C+ rank but with Eviolite it gets 210 Def and 115 SpD. 65 HP isn't amazing but it's manageable. Evioloite is going to dominate a lot of the tier in general, giving Sigilyph 72 / 120 / 120 defenses along with it's good offensive moveset, it might move up to UU or something close.
Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
New Pokemon Name: Fangarmory
Type:
Ability: Iron Barb / Sturdy | HA: Cloud Nine
Skarmory’s Stats: 65 / 80 / 140 / 40 / 70 / 70 | BST 465
Fangarmory’s Stats: 80 / 120 / 150 / 40 / 90 / 85 | BST 565
New Moves: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Draco Meteor, Earthquake
Competitive Niche (OU): WIP
New Pokemon Name: Skarmalicious
Type:
Ability: Hustle / Sturdy | HA: Heatproof
Skarmory’s Stats: 65 / 80 / 140 / 40 / 70 / 70 | BST 465
Fangarmory’s Stats: 80 / 120 / 95 / 40 / 90 / 140 | BST 565
New Moves: Knock Off, Bullet Punch, Shadow Claw, Thunder Punch
Competitive Niche (OU or Uber): WIP
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Original Pokemon Name: Skarmory
Stats: 65 / 80 / 140 / 40 / 70 / 70 (BST: 465)
(Evolving at level 50 with speed equal or higher than special defense)
New Pokemon Name: Axtrel (Axe + Kestrel)
Type:
Abilities: Keen Eye / Sturdy / Hustle
Stats: 85 / 110 / 145 / 55 / 80 / 120 (BST: 595)
New Moves: Sacred Sword, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Proud Strike (100 BP | Flying Type | Physical | 5-8 PP | 95% Acc | Does 1.1x more damage for each opponent's stats higher than Axtrel's (for a maximum of 177) | Z: 180 BP)
Competitive Niche (Uber): Pretty bulky and fast attacker with great coverage and one really powerful nuke move. It can also perform the weird role of a fast wall, and it's a safe option to check some threats of the metagame, namely xerneas and necrozma-dm.
(Evolving at level 50 with more special defense than speed)
New Pokemon Name: Shieldfare (Shield + Fieldfare)
Type:
Abilities: Keen Eye / Sturdy / Uncouncious (Hustle clone: The user only takes 3/4th of damage, but the accuracy of all its moves is multiplied by 0.8x)
Stats: 85 / 85 / 165 / 55 / 155 / 60 (BST: 595)
New Moves: Metal Burst, Thunder Wave, Bulldoze, Proud Soar (— BP | Flying Type | Status | 5-8 PP | — Acc | +4 Priority, prevents damage for the turn. If the opponent uses a status move that turn, its special attack is lowered by 2 stages. Other Protect mechanics apply | Z: Clean the user's negative stat boosts)
Competitive Niche (Uber): The ultimate wall, I don't think I even have to explain why.
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