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Excuse me, but I would like to post a new Scizor set
- Thread starter Jibaku
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Heh, I saw this posted in the Scizor analysis like a week ago, and figured i'd try it out, and it's pretty damn cool. I went with Night Slash so I could hit Gyarados and Cressy at the same time, and I can't say I have many complaints. Now I run a CSScizor, because it fits my team better, but this is quite a deadly set... just be smart when using it, because Life Orb recoil will stack pretty quickly
I've been using something similar on shoddybattle (and have a good candidate for the set in my trade thread.)
In my experience, it's worth dropping those defense EVs for a good 100-150 in speed to outrun walls and slower pokemon, especially with iron head flinching capabilities. And I have to say leftovers works much better than life orb, for me personally; I can often get in two swords dances, at which point quick attack rips things apart.
It's hard to force out, barring a fire move, which is usually very predictable and an easy switch in for rapidash or heatran.
In my experience, it's worth dropping those defense EVs for a good 100-150 in speed to outrun walls and slower pokemon, especially with iron head flinching capabilities. And I have to say leftovers works much better than life orb, for me personally; I can often get in two swords dances, at which point quick attack rips things apart.
It's hard to force out, barring a fire move, which is usually very predictable and an easy switch in for rapidash or heatran.
I've been using this set for a few days now as well and I've found it pretty effective if it's saved for the end of the match.
As for Iron Head vs. Metal Claw, even if Iron Head had no added effect I would take it over Metal Claw because a 9.5% chance to boost your attack one stage is not worth the 5% miss chance on a Life Orb carrying pokemon that is already going to be taking some hits because of its speed.
I've also considered (although haven't personally tried) putting leftovers over life orb because the added durability lets Scizor get a second SD up vs. some walls (Gliscor's Earthquake does about 30-35% I believe; taking two of those is pretty much game over for Life Orb Scizor but not really a big deal for Leftovers Scizor. You can probably also afford to go up to 3 Dances if their physical wall is Cresselia and they leave it in).
I think using Night Slash over one of the other two options isn't worth it because the incredible drop in base power (75 vs. 120) that really only lets you hit a few extra pokemon (Gyarados is the only one that walls the other two sets entirely; the rest of the things that Night Slash covers basically die to the Iron Head version equally well).
As for Iron Head vs. Metal Claw, even if Iron Head had no added effect I would take it over Metal Claw because a 9.5% chance to boost your attack one stage is not worth the 5% miss chance on a Life Orb carrying pokemon that is already going to be taking some hits because of its speed.
I've also considered (although haven't personally tried) putting leftovers over life orb because the added durability lets Scizor get a second SD up vs. some walls (Gliscor's Earthquake does about 30-35% I believe; taking two of those is pretty much game over for Life Orb Scizor but not really a big deal for Leftovers Scizor. You can probably also afford to go up to 3 Dances if their physical wall is Cresselia and they leave it in).
I think using Night Slash over one of the other two options isn't worth it because the incredible drop in base power (75 vs. 120) that really only lets you hit a few extra pokemon (Gyarados is the only one that walls the other two sets entirely; the rest of the things that Night Slash covers basically die to the Iron Head version equally well).
You address Scizor's advantages over Weavile in your first post, but you didn't mention Lucario at all. While he has slightly less attack, his Extremespeed has 80 BP against Technician Quick Attack's 60 and he get STAB Close Combat instead of unboosted Brick Break. Crunch is a decent proxy for Night Slash/X-Scissor.
Okay, well, I've been using this set on Shoddy for awhile, and it wasn't even mine, it was a guy on GameFAQs by the name of Jester2 or something. Kinda odd, lol. But I'm not gonna accuse you of ripping off or anything, mind, just noting that this set was found in a sandstorm team, for obvious reasons. SD QA OHKOs infernape in sandstorm, no questions asked. Anyway, one time I tried pairing it with Heatran, but seems everyone expects the Flash Fire switch and uses Earth Power on me. =/