Ubers Extremekiller Arceus

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[SET]
name: Extreme Killer (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Extreme Speed
move 3: Shadow Claw
move 4: Taunt / Recover / Earthquake
item: Silk Scarf / Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Multitype
nature: Adamant
evs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
tera type: Normal / Ghost / Fire

[SET COMMENTS]
  • The combination of Swords Dance and STAB Extreme Speed turns Arceus into a deadly setup sweeper.
  • Shadow Claw hits Giratina-O and Skeledirge hard, especially if Arceus has Terastallized into the Ghost-type.
  • Taunt denies opposing recovery and blocks status moves such as Will-O-Wisp from Giratina-O and Skeledirge, but Recover can let Arceus acquire multiple boosts, making it nigh unstoppable.
  • Earthquake hits Toxapex and Zacian-C hard while doing respectable damage to Skeledirge.
  • A Silk Scarf lets Arceus secure important benchmarks such as OHKOing offensive Kyogre at +2 with Extreme Speed. Alternatively, Leftovers offers more longevity, while Lum Berry offers extra insurance against status effects.
  • The given EV spread and nature maximize Arceus's damage output and let it outspeed Adamant Rayquaza, with the rest of the EVs going into HP to facilitate setup.
  • Tera Normal boosts Extreme Speed to absurd levels, letting Arceus OHKO offensive Koraidon at +2 if holding a Silk Scarf.
  • Alternatively, Tera Ghost is useful for preventing Koraidon and Zacian-C from revenge killing it. It also boosts Shadow Claw against targets such as Giratina-O and Skeledirge.
  • Tera Fire makes Arceus immune to burn, which is helpful against Skeledirge and Giratina-O.
  • Swords Dance Arceus is a good fit on hyper offense and bulky offense, working best as a late-game sweeper when checks such as Corviknight, Zacian-C, and Skeledirge are weakened or removed. With Extreme Speed, Arceus also serves as an emergency check to opposing sweepers.
  • Good teammates for Arceus include Zacian-C, Groudon, and Koraidon, which share similar checks such as Corviknight and Skeledirge and can wear them down for Arceus to sweep.
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I really don't like Life Orb, I think Lum Berry is much more optimal as a slash since it lets Recover Arceus have a chance against Wisp users (or lets Taunt Arceus have to play less mindgames against Skeledirge and Giratina-O who may be anticipating a Taunt and attacking)

nimzowitsch said:
Alternatively, Tera Ghost lets Arceus avoid being revenge killed by Close Combat from Zacian-C and opposing Extreme Speed users. It also lets Arceus set up against or avoid being revenge killed by Koraidon.
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Close Combat is really not commonly run on Zacian-C anymore. On the other hand, no mention of Tera Ghost letting Shadow Claw hit Skele and Giratina-O harder? That seems pretty important

nimzowitsch said:
Tera Normal boosts Extreme Speed to absurd levels, letting Arceus OHKO offensive Koraidon if holding a Silk Scarf or Life Orb.
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You should specify if this is at +2
 
Manaphy said:
I really don't like Life Orb, I think Lum Berry is much more optimal as a slash since it lets Recover Arceus have a chance against Wisp users (or lets Taunt Arceus have to play less mindgames against Skeledirge and Giratina-O who may be anticipating a Taunt and attacking)


Close Combat is really not commonly run on Zacian-C anymore. On the other hand, no mention of Tera Ghost letting Shadow Claw hit Skele and Giratina-O harder? That seems pretty important


You should specify if this is at +2
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Implemented, but imo Close Combat is still relevant on Zacian, for 1760 stats in June, it was used over 50% of the time. You can veto this if you want but I think it's better to keep it
 
nimzowitsch said:
Implemented, but imo Close Combat is still relevant on Zacian, for 1760 stats in June, it was used over 50% of the time. You can veto this if you want but I think it's better to keep it
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In this case, you can shorten the paragraph by combining Zacian-C and Koraidon by saying something like "useful to prevent revenge killing from Koraidon and Zacian-C".

I'm not sure if Earthquake is worth a slash at all, it leaves you completely walled by Gira-O and Taunt should prevent Pex from doing too much against you.

Besides that looks okay QC 1/2
 
Manaphy said:
In this case, you can shorten the paragraph by combining Zacian-C and Koraidon by saying something like "useful to prevent revenge killing from Koraidon and Zacian-C".

I'm not sure if Earthquake is worth a slash at all, it leaves you completely walled by Gira-O and Taunt should prevent Pex from doing too much against you.

Besides that looks okay QC 1/2
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I'll keep EQ for now but the 2nd QCer should make a decision on this
 
nimzowitsch said:
move 4: Taunt / Recover
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If we're going Earthquake at all, I'd say as a mention after Taunt / Recover in the analysis. It’s generally not a great move but it does let you flip the Zacian mu and hit Dirge a bit harder without Tera. Shadow Claw is entirely necessary however.

nimzowitsch said:
Swords Dance Arceus is a good fit on hyper offense, and works best late-game when checks such as Corviknight, Zacian-C, and Skeledirge are weakened or removed.
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while it’s fine on HO, I’d mention that it’s also equally good on BO as a way to revenge kill sweepers that get out of control. I also think you should mention teammates that share these checks and wear them down, such as Zacian-C / Groudon / Koraidon.


nimzowitsch said:
  • Shadow Claw hits Giratina-O very hard, especially if Arceus has Terastallized into the Ghost-type.
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Mention Skeledirge in the shadow claw paragraph and take out the “very” in the sentence.


nimzowitsch said:
  • Earthquake hits Toxapex and Clodire hard while doing respectable damage to Skeledirge.
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I’d completely remove the Clodsire mention and replace it with Zacian-C as well since Clodsire isn’t taking Extreme Speed well either.
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Taka said:
If we're going Earthquake at all, I'd say as a mention after Taunt / Recover in the analysis. It’s generally not a great move but it does let you flip the Zacian mu and hit Dirge a bit harder without Tera. Shadow Claw is entirely necessary however.



while it’s fine on HO, I’d mention that it’s also equally good on BO as a way to revenge kill sweepers that get out of control. I also think you should mention teammates that share these checks and wear them down, such as Zacian-C / Groudon / Koraidon.





Mention Skeledirge in the shadow claw paragraph and take out the “very” in the sentence.




I’d completely remove the Clodsire mention and replace it with Zacian-C as well since Clodsire isn’t taking Extreme Speed well either.
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Implemented!
 
[SET]
name: Extreme Killer (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Extreme Speed
move 3: Shadow Claw
move 4: Taunt / Recover / Earthquake
item: Silk Scarf / Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Multitype
nature: Adamant
evs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
tera type: Normal / Ghost / Fire

[SET COMMENTS]
  • The combination of Swords Dance and STAB Extreme Speed turn turns Arceus into a deadly set-up setup sweeper.
  • Shadow Claw hits Giratina-O and Skeledirge hard, especially if Arceus has Terastallized into the Ghost-type.
  • Taunt denies opposing recovery and blocks status moves such as Will-O-Wisp from Giratina-O or Skeledrige Skeledirge, but Recover can let Arceus acquire multiple boosts, making it nigh-unstoppable.
  • Earthquake hits Toxapex and Zacian-C hard while doing respectable damage to Skeledirge.
  • A Silk Scarf lets Arceus secure important benchmarks such as OHKOing offensive Kyogre at +2 with Extreme Speed. For more longevity, Alternatively, Leftovers offer more longevity can also be used, while Lum Berry offers extra insurance against status effects
  • The given EV spread and nature maximize Arceus's damage output and gives it enough speed to lets it outspeed Adamant Rayquaza, with the rest of the EVs going into HP to facilitate setup.
  • Tera Normal boosts Extreme Speed to absurd levels, letting Arceus OHKO offensive Koraidon at +2 if holding a Silk Scarf.
  • Alternatively, Tera Ghost is useful for preventing revenge killing from Koraidon and Zacian-C from revenge killing it. It also boosts Shadow Claw against targets such as Giratina-O and Skeledirge. < this fact was already mentioned before, consider removing for repetition.
  • Tera Fire makes Arceus immune to burn, which is helpful against Skeledirge and Giratina-O.
  • Swords Dance Arceus is a good fit on hyper offense and bulky offense, and it works best as a late-game sweeper when checks such as Corviknight, Zacian-C, and Skeledirge are weakened or removed. With Extreme Speed, Arceus also serves as an emergency check to opposing sweepers.
  • Good teammates for Arceus include Zacian-C, Groudon, and Koraidon, which share similar checks like what? and can wear them down for Arceus to sweep
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[SET]
name: Extreme Killer (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Extreme Speed
move 3: Shadow Claw
move 4: Taunt / Recover / Earthquake
item: Silk Scarf / Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Multitype
nature: Adamant
evs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
tera type: Normal / Ghost / Fire

[SET COMMENTS]
  • The combination of Swords Dance and STAB Extreme Speed turn turns Arceus into a deadly set-up setup sweeper.
  • Shadow Claw hits Giratina-O and Skeledirge hard, especially if Arceus has Terastallized into the Ghost-type.
  • Taunt denies opposing recovery and blocks status moves such as Will-O-Wisp from Giratina-O or and Skeledrige Skeledirge, but Recover can let Arceus acquire multiple boosts, making it nigh-unstoppable. (remove hyphen)
  • Earthquake hits Toxapex and Zacian-C hard while doing respectable damage to Skeledirge.
  • A Silk Scarf lets Arceus secure important benchmarks such as OHKOing offensive Kyogre at +2 with Extreme Speed. For more longevity, Alternatively, Leftovers offers more longevity can also be used, (original was probably fine to keep. i think both are correct though so w/e. pick your poison. if you keep berry's make sure to add the s to offer though) while Lum Berry offers extra insurance against status effects. (full stop)
  • The given EV spread and nature maximize Arceus's damage output and gives it enough speed to lets it (keep singular/plural agreement consistent) outspeed Adamant Rayquaza, with the rest of the EVs going into HP to facilitate setup.
  • Tera Normal boosts Extreme Speed to absurd levels, letting Arceus OHKO offensive Koraidon at +2 if holding a Silk Scarf.
  • Alternatively, Tera Ghost is useful for preventing revenge killing from Koraidon and Zacian-C from revenge killing it. It also boosts Shadow Claw against targets such as Giratina-O and Skeledirge. < this fact was already mentioned before, consider removing for repetition. (tbh this is probably OK to restate for clarity reasons)
  • Tera Fire makes Arceus immune to burn, which is helpful against Skeledirge and Giratina-O.
  • Swords Dance Arceus is a good fit on hyper offense and bulky offense, and it works working best as a late-game sweeper when checks such as Corviknight, Zacian-C, and Skeledirge are weakened or removed. With Extreme Speed, Arceus also serves as an emergency check to opposing sweepers.
  • Good teammates for Arceus include Zacian-C, Groudon, and Koraidon, which share similar checks like what? and can wear them down for Arceus to sweep. (full stop)
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[SET]
name: Extreme Killer (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Extreme Speed
move 3: Shadow Claw
move 4: Taunt / Recover / Earthquake
item: Silk Scarf / Leftovers / Lum Berry
ability: Multitype
nature: Adamant
evs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
tera type: Normal / Ghost / Fire

[SET COMMENTS]
  • The combination of Swords Dance and STAB Extreme Speed turn turns Arceus into a deadly set-up setup sweeper.
  • Shadow Claw hits Giratina-O and Skeledirge hard, especially if Arceus has Terastallized into the Ghost-type.
  • Taunt denies opposing recovery and blocks status moves such as Will-O-Wisp from Giratina-O or and Skeledrige Skeledirge, but Recover can let Arceus acquire multiple boosts, making it nigh-unstoppable. (remove hyphen)
  • Earthquake hits Toxapex and Zacian-C hard while doing respectable damage to Skeledirge.
  • A Silk Scarf lets Arceus secure important benchmarks such as OHKOing offensive Kyogre at +2 with Extreme Speed. For more longevity, Alternatively, Leftovers offers more longevity can also be used, (original was probably fine to keep. i think both are correct though so w/e. pick your poison. if you keep berry's make sure to add the s to offer though) while Lum Berry offers extra insurance against status effects. (full stop)
  • The given EV spread and nature maximize Arceus's damage output and gives it enough speed to lets it (keep singular/plural agreement consistent) outspeed Adamant Rayquaza, with the rest of the EVs going into HP to facilitate setup.
  • Tera Normal boosts Extreme Speed to absurd levels, letting Arceus OHKO offensive Koraidon at +2 if holding a Silk Scarf.
  • Alternatively, Tera Ghost is useful for preventing revenge killing from Koraidon and Zacian-C from revenge killing it. It also boosts Shadow Claw against targets such as Giratina-O and Skeledirge. < this fact was already mentioned before, consider removing for repetition. (tbh this is probably OK to restate for clarity reasons)
  • Tera Fire makes Arceus immune to burn, which is helpful against Skeledirge and Giratina-O.
  • Swords Dance Arceus is a good fit on hyper offense and bulky offense, and it works working best as a late-game sweeper when checks such as Corviknight, Zacian-C, and Skeledirge are weakened or removed. With Extreme Speed, Arceus also serves as an emergency check to opposing sweepers.
  • Good teammates for Arceus include Zacian-C, Groudon, and Koraidon, which share similar checks like what? and can wear them down for Arceus to sweep. (full stop)
[CREDITS]
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