ZU Ferroseed [Done]

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DC

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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Knock Off / Protect / Thunder Wave
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed is a premier special wall in ZU thanks to its good bulk, typing, and ability to set up Spikes or Stealth Rock, which lets it force out Water-types like Wishiwashi and Basculin and gain momentum. Leech Seed provides Ferroseed with recovery and cripples foes such as Centiskorch and Garbodor on the switch. Knock Off weakens Eviolite-reliant foes such as Gurdurr and Tangela and removes Heavy-Duty Boots from Fire-type switch-ins like Centiskorch, Rapidash, and Ninetales. Protect gains extra Leech Seed recovery and scouts Choice-locked attackers like Sawk and Rotom. Thunder Wave provides general utility against switch-ins and is especially useful to cripple problematic foes such as Sawk and Centiskorch.

Ferroseed fits on a plethora of teams, ranging from offensive entry hazard stacking teams to bulkier teams, thanks to its defensive capabilities and ability to set up Spikes. Powerful wallbreakers like Kangaskhan and Centiskorch can take advantage of Spikes weakening their defensive checks like Cofagrigus and Qwilfish. VoltTurn partners such as Rotom, Alolan Persian, and Silvally formes also appreciate Spikes support. Water-types such as Qwilfish and Wishiwashi complement Ferroseed by handling Fire-types like Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash, with Qwilfish also serving as check to problematic Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath. Knock Off absorbers such as Uxie and Cofagrigus can prevent Ferroseed from losing its Eviolite and compromising its bulk; they also check Fighting-types.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used to cripple Ferroseed's switch-ins, but it has trouble fitting the move over other options.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Fire-types such as Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash are the biggest threats to Ferroseed, as they can exploit its 4x weakness to Fire and force it out. Pokemon with Fire-type coverage like Manectric and Fire Blast Skuntank are also threatening to Ferroseed. However, they should all be wary of Leech Seed pressure and Knock Off, which can potentially remove their Heavy-Duty Boots and make them susceptible to Ferroseed's entry hazards.

**Fighting-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Ferroseed is forced out by Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath. Pokemon that carry Fighting-type coverage like Cofagrigus and Superpower Basculin are also problematic.

**Knock Off**: Knock Off users like Audino, Tangela, and Uxie can remove Ferroseed's Eviolite, which makes it harder to check foes like Frosmoth and Basculin.

**Taunt**: Taunt users like Qwilfish and Alolan Persian can shut down Ferroseed with Taunt.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [BloodAce, 435539]]
- Grammar checked by: [[CryoGyro, 331519]]
 
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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Knock Off / Protect / Thunder Wave
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed is a premier special wall in ZU thanks to its good bulk, typing, and ability to set up Spikes or Stealth Rock (thought the stealth rock line was fluff / obvious, so adding it here suffices), which lets it force out Water-types like Wishiwashi and Basculin and gain momentum. Stealth Rock can be used if Ferroseed is not paired with a Stealth Rock setter. Leech Seed provides Ferroseed with recovery and lets it cripple foes such as Centiskorch and Garbodor on the switch. Knock Off weakens Eviolite-reliant foes such as Gurdurr and Tangela and removes Heavy-Duty Boots from Fire-type switch-ins like Centiskorch, Rapidash, and Ninetales, which makes them susceptible to Ferroseed's entry hazards (Fluff). Protect synergizes well with Leech Seed, enabling Ferroseed to gain extra recovery, and also lets it scout Choiced attackers like Sawk and Rotom. Thunder Wave provides general utility against switch-ins and is especially useful to cripple problematic foes such as Centiskorch and Sawk.

Ferroseed fits on a plethora of teams, ranging from offensive entry hazard stacking teams to bulkier teams, thanks to both its defensive capabilities and ability to set up Spikes. Powerful wallbreakers like Kangaskhan and Centiskorch can take advantage of Spikes weakening their defensive checks like Cofagrigus and Qwilfish to wreak havoc. Similarly, VoltTurn partners such as Rotom, Alolan Persian, and Silvally formes also appreciate Spikes support. Water-types such as Qwilfish and Wishiwashi complement Ferroseed by handling Fire-types like Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash, with Qwilfish also serving as check to problematic Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath. Knock Off absorbers such as Uxie and Cofagrigus can prevent Ferroseed from losing its Eviolite and compromising its bulk; they also check the aforementioned Fighting-types.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used to cripple Ferroseed's switch-ins, but it has trouble fitting the move over other options. Ferroseed can also opt to run a secondary STAB move in Seed Bomb; however, it is usually not necessary and forces Ferroseed to give up a utility move. (Seed Bomb seems reaaaaaaally niche. Like ferro isnt strong at all, and gyro is for Frosmoth and Knock for utility. What I'm getting at is "secondary stab move" wouldn't work here for stab's sake alone. I'd instead list the targets its for like Basculin and Kabutops, but also I'd personally not recommend it at all. I'll leave it up to you.)

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Fire-types such as Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash are the biggest threats to Ferroseed, as they can exploit its 4x weakness to Fire and force it out, letting them either get a hit off or set up. Pokemon with Fire-type coverage like Manectric and Fire Blast Skuntank are also threatening to Ferroseed. However, they should all be wary of being crippled by Leech Seed and Knock Off, which can potentially remove their Heavy-Duty Boots and make them susceptible to Ferroseed's entry hazards.

**Fighting-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Ferroseed struggles against Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath and is forced out by them. Pokemon that carry Fighting-type coverage like Clawitzer Cofagrigus and Superpower Basculin is are also problematic.

**Knock Off**: Knock Off users like Audino and Uxie can remove Ferroseed's Eviolite, which makes it harder to check foes like Frosmoth and Rotom-S Basculin. (the rotom-s matchup is kinda tricky altogether with its wisp + defog and sub + NP sets. Basc is better)

**Taunt Users**: Taunt users like Qwilfish and Alolan Persian can shut down Ferroseed with Taunt and lower its utility.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
Phenomenal! QC 1/2


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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Knock Off / Protect / Thunder Wave
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed is a premier special wall in ZU thanks to its good bulk, typing, and ability to set up Spikes or Stealth Rock, which lets it force out Water-types like Wishiwashi and Basculin and gain momentum. Leech Seed provides Ferroseed with recovery and lets it cripple foes such as Centiskorch and Garbodor on the switch. Knock Off weakens Eviolite-reliant foes such as Gurdurr and Tangela and removes Heavy-Duty Boots from Fire-type switch-ins like Centiskorch, Rapidash, and Ninetales. Protect synergizes well with Leech Seed, enabling Ferroseed to gain extra recovery, and also lets it scout Choiced attackers like Sawk and Rotom. Thunder Wave provides general utility against switch-ins and is especially useful to cripple problematic foes such as Centiskorch and Sawk. (switch these two just because you already list centi as the first example in two other instances here)

Ferroseed fits on a plethora of teams, ranging from offensive entry hazard stacking teams to bulkier teams, thanks to both its defensive capabilities and ability to set up Spikes. Powerful wallbreakers like Kangaskhan and Centiskorch can take advantage of Spikes weakening their defensive checks like Cofagrigus and Qwilfish to wreak havoc. Similarly, VoltTurn partners such as Rotom, Alolan Persian, and Silvally formes also appreciate Spikes support. Water-types such as Qwilfish and Wishiwashi complement Ferroseed by handling Fire-types like Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash, with Qwilfish also serving as check to problematic Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath. Knock Off absorbers such as Uxie and Cofagrigus can prevent Ferroseed from losing its Eviolite and compromising its bulk; they also check the aforementioned Fighting-types.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used to cripple Ferroseed's switch-ins, but it has trouble fitting the move over other options.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Fire-types such as Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash are the biggest threats to Ferroseed, as they can exploit its 4x weakness to Fire and force it out, letting them either get a hit off or set up. Pokemon with Fire-type coverage like Manectric and Fire Blast Skuntank are also threatening to Ferroseed. However, they should all be wary of being crippled by Leech Seed and Knock Off, which can potentially remove their Heavy-Duty Boots and make them susceptible to Ferroseed's entry hazards.

**Fighting-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Ferroseed struggles against Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath and is forced out by them. Pokemon that carry Fighting-type coverage like Cofagrigus and Superpower Basculin are also problematic.

**Knock Off**: Knock Off users like Audino, Tangela, and Uxie can remove Ferroseed's Eviolite, which makes it harder to check foes like Frosmoth and Basculin.

**Taunt Users**: Taunt users like Qwilfish and Alolan Persian can shut down Ferroseed with Taunt and lower its utility.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [BloodAce, 435539]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]] remember u only need the one gp now btw
Just a couple small example changes, this is pretty much perfect as is, great job! QC 2/2
 
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[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Knock Off / Protect / Thunder Wave
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed is a premier special wall in ZU thanks to its good bulk, typing, and ability to set up Spikes or Stealth Rock, which lets it force out Water-types like Wishiwashi and Basculin and gain momentum. Leech Seed provides Ferroseed with recovery and lets it cripples foes such as Centiskorch and Garbodor on the switch. Knock Off weakens Eviolite-reliant foes such as Gurdurr and Tangela and removes Heavy-Duty Boots from Fire-type switch-ins like Centiskorch, Rapidash, and Ninetales. Protect synergizes well with Leech Seed, enabling Ferroseed to gain extra recovery, and also lets it scout Choiced gains extra Leech Seed recovery and scouts Choice-locked attackers like Sawk and Rotom. Thunder Wave provides general utility against switch-ins and is especially useful to cripple problematic foes such as Sawk and Centiskorch.

Ferroseed fits on a plethora of teams, ranging from offensive entry hazard stacking teams to bulkier teams, thanks to both its defensive capabilities and ability to set up Spikes. Powerful wallbreakers like Kangaskhan and Centiskorch can take advantage of Spikes weakening their defensive checks like Cofagrigus and Qwilfish to wreak havoc. Similarly, VoltTurn partners such as Rotom, Alolan Persian, and Silvally formes also appreciate Spikes support. Water-types such as Qwilfish and Wishiwashi complement Ferroseed by handling Fire-types like Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash, with Qwilfish also serving as check to problematic Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath. Knock Off absorbers such as Uxie and Cofagrigus can prevent Ferroseed from losing its Eviolite and compromising its bulk; they also check the aforementioned Fighting-types.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used to cripple Ferroseed's switch-ins, but it has trouble fitting the move over other options.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Fire-types such as Centiskorch, Ninetales, and Rapidash are the biggest threats to Ferroseed, as they can exploit its 4x weakness to Fire and force it out, letting them either get a hit off or set up. Pokemon with Fire-type coverage like Manectric and Fire Blast Skuntank are also threatening to Ferroseed. However, they should all be wary of being crippled by Leech Seed pressure and Knock Off, which can potentially remove their Heavy-Duty Boots and make them susceptible to Ferroseed's entry hazards.

**Fighting-type Pokemon and Coverage**: Ferroseed struggles against is forced out by Fighting-types like Sawk, Gurdurr, and Poliwrath and is forced out by them. Pokemon that carry Fighting-type coverage like Cofagrigus and Superpower Basculin are also problematic.

**Knock Off**: Knock Off users like Audino, Tangela, and Uxie can remove Ferroseed's Eviolite, which makes it harder to check foes like Frosmoth and Basculin.

**Taunt Users**: Taunt users like Qwilfish and Alolan Persian can shut down Ferroseed with Taunt and lower its utility.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d, 231074], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 
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