LC Ferroseed

chimp

chimp

Go Bananas
is a Contributor to Smogonis a Site Content Manager Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnus
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Knock Off
move 2: Bullet Seed / Iron Head
move 3: Thunder Wave / Spikes
move 4: Stealth Rock / Spikes
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 84 HP / 36 Atk / 108 Def / 228 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed's tremendous bulk, bolstered further by Eviolite, allows it to serve as a capable wall in the Little Cup metagame. Its unique typing gives it an impressive list of resistances, including Water, Electric, Psychic and Rock. These factors allow Ferroseed to serve as one of the metagame's most reliable Stealth Rock setters while walling sweepers such as Onix and Shellder. Knock Off is a particularly effective tool in Little Cup, as Pokemon in this metagame rely heavily on their items, and Knock Off support is crucial for paving the way for Ferroseed's teammates to sweep. Bullet Seed is Ferroseed's STAB attack of choice, dealing super effective damage to threats such as Corphish. However, Iron Head can be used to deal more damage to Fairy-types, especially Cutiefly. Thunder Wave allows Ferroseed to cripple sweepers that might try to set up on it, such as Vullaby and non-Guts Timburr. The given EV spread allows Ferroseed to potentially avoid the 2HKO from Cutiefly's Bug Buzz after a Quiver Dance. The marginal investment in Speed allows Ferroseed to outspeed uninvested Trapinch.

Ferroseed is one of the most important walls in Little Cup as it is capable of checking several of the metagame's most threatening Pokemon like Cutiefly, Shellder, and Corphish. Naturally, it pairs well with Pokemon that benefit from its unique set of resistances, such as Vullaby and Cutiefly, which in turn benefit Ferroseed by managing Fighting-types, especially Galarian Farfetch'd and Timburr, which can also remove Ferroseed's hazards with Defog. Water-types like Wingull, Chinchou, and Mareanie also help Ferroseed by soaking up Fire-type attacks. Due to Ferroseed's lack of healing, Wish support from clerics, like Spritzee, can prove invaluable.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[chimp, 197439]]
- Quality checked by: [[Merritt, 213064], [Coconut, 150971]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Kris, 241023]]
 
Last edited:
Set name should be "Defensive" not Eviolite

Definitely not Gyro Ball, Iron Head is a better option seeing as this set's running speed (and it should continue to be running speed with Trapinch existing). Leech Seed is unviable, remove it from slashes.

Obviously this means remove the Gyro Ball mention in the set comments, replace it with Iron Head and specifically call out Cutiefly as one of the Fairy-type targets

Mention in the second paragraph that Ferroseed is currently one of the most important walls in LC, capable of checking a large number of dangerous Pokemon like Gastly, Cutiefly, and Corphish.

Add a credits section, format is as follows:

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]
- Quality checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>], [<username2>, <userid2>]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]

1/2
 
Merritt said:
Set name should be "Defensive" not Eviolite

Definitely not Gyro Ball, Iron Head is a better option seeing as this set's running speed (and it should continue to be running speed with Trapinch existing). Leech Seed is unviable, remove it from slashes.

Obviously this means remove the Gyro Ball mention in the set comments, replace it with Iron Head and specifically call out Cutiefly as one of the Fairy-type targets

Mention in the second paragraph that Ferroseed is currently one of the most important walls in LC, capable of checking a large number of dangerous Pokemon like Gastly, Cutiefly, and Corphish.

Add a credits section, format is as follows:

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]
- Quality checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>], [<username2>, <userid2>]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]

1/2
Click to expand...

Updated
 
chimp said:
Bullet Seed is Ferroseed's STAB attack of choice, dealing super-effective damage to threats such as Onix.
Click to expand...
This is like one of three times that Onix is mentioned, can we use another mon in one of them? Maybe Frillish? Corphish? Even something like Trapinch might work.
chimp said:
such as Vullaby, Cutiefly and Onix. The former two benefit Ferroseed by managing Fighting types such as Farfetch'd-G and Timburr, both of which can also remove Ferroseed's hazards with Defog.
Click to expand...
You mention the former two without going into what Onix could provide, either remove Onix or explain what it provides for Ferroseed.


QC 2/2
 
Coconut said:
This is like one of three times that Onix is mentioned, can we use another mon in one of them? Maybe Frillish? Corphish? Even something like Trapinch might work.

You mention the former two without going into what Onix could provide, either remove Onix or explain what it provides for Ferroseed.


QC 2/2
Click to expand...

Updated, ready for QP
 
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Knock Off
move 2: Bullet Seed / Iron Head
move 3: Thunder Wave / Spikes
move 4: Stealth Rock / Spikes
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 84 HP / 36 Atk / 108 Def / 228 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed's tremendous bulk, bulstered bolstered further by Eviolite, allows it to serve as a capable wall in the Little Cup metagame. Its unique typing gives it an impressive list of resistances, including Water, Electric, Psychic and Rock-types Rock. These factors combined allow Ferroseed to serve as one of the metagame's most reliable Stealth Rock setters while walling sweepers such as Onix and Shellder. Knock Off is a particularly effective tool in Little Cup, as Pokemon in this metagame rely heavily rely (subjective) on their items, and Knock Off support is crucial for paving the way for Ferroseed's teammates to sweep. Bullet Seed is Ferroseed's STAB attack of choice, dealing super effective (RH) damage to threats such as Corphish. However, Iron Head can be used to deal more damage to Fairy-types (AH), especially Cutiefly. Thunder Wave allows Ferroseed to cripple sweepers that might try to set up (RH) on it, such as Vullaby and non-Guts Timburr without Guts. The given EV spread allows Ferroseed to potenitaly potentially avoid the 2HKO from Cutiefly's Bug Buzz after a Quiver Dance. The marginal investment in Speed allows Ferroseed to outspeed an uninvested Trapinch.

Ferroseed is one of the most important walls in Little Cup as it is capable of checking several of the metagame's most threatening Pokemon like Cutiefly, Shellder, (AC) and Corphish. Naturally, it pairs well with Pokemon that benefit from its unique set of resistances, such as Vullaby and Cutiefly, who which in turn benefit Ferroseed by managing Fighting-types (AH), (AC) especially such as Farfetch'd-G Galarian Farfetch'd and Timburr, both of which can also remove Ferroseed's hazards with Defog. Water-types like Wingull, Chinchou, (AC) and Mareanie also help Ferroseed by soaking up Fire-type attacks. Due to Ferroseed's lack of healing, Wish support from clerics, like Spritzee, can prove invaluable.
GP 1/1
 
Kris said:
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Knock Off
move 2: Bullet Seed / Iron Head
move 3: Thunder Wave / Spikes
move 4: Stealth Rock / Spikes
item: Eviolite
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 84 HP / 36 Atk / 108 Def / 228 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Ferroseed's tremendous bulk, bulstered bolstered further by Eviolite, allows it to serve as a capable wall in the Little Cup metagame. Its unique typing gives it an impressive list of resistances, including Water, Electric, Psychic and Rock-types Rock. These factors combined allow Ferroseed to serve as one of the metagame's most reliable Stealth Rock setters while walling sweepers such as Onix and Shellder. Knock Off is a particularly effective tool in Little Cup, as Pokemon in this metagame rely heavily rely (subjective) on their items, and Knock Off support is crucial for paving the way for Ferroseed's teammates to sweep. Bullet Seed is Ferroseed's STAB attack of choice, dealing super effective (RH) damage to threats such as Corphish. However, Iron Head can be used to deal more damage to Fairy-types (AH), especially Cutiefly. Thunder Wave allows Ferroseed to cripple sweepers that might try to set up (RH) on it, such as Vullaby and non-Guts Timburr without Guts. The given EV spread allows Ferroseed to potenitaly potentially avoid the 2HKO from Cutiefly's Bug Buzz after a Quiver Dance. The marginal investment in Speed allows Ferroseed to outspeed an uninvested Trapinch.

Ferroseed is one of the most important walls in Little Cup as it is capable of checking several of the metagame's most threatening Pokemon like Cutiefly, Shellder, (AC) and Corphish. Naturally, it pairs well with Pokemon that benefit from its unique set of resistances, such as Vullaby and Cutiefly, who which in turn benefit Ferroseed by managing Fighting-types (AH), (AC) especially such as Farfetch'd-G Galarian Farfetch'd and Timburr, both of which can also remove Ferroseed's hazards with Defog. Water-types like Wingull, Chinchou, (AC) and Mareanie also help Ferroseed by soaking up Fire-type attacks. Due to Ferroseed's lack of healing, Wish support from clerics, like Spritzee, can prove invaluable.
GP 1/1
Click to expand...

Implemented. This is finished!
 
Hey, I know it's done and all, but wouldn't be Berry Juice worth mentionning? It helps Ferroseed with its recovery problems, and lets it perform his role multiple times throughout a match. Furthermore, Berry Juice coupled with great bulk just gives it 2 HP bars whereas Evio has got only one, but can nonetheless strengthen the bulk.

I think that Eviolite might be worth running with a partner such as Spritzee which canWishpass. You'd run Berry Juice Ferroseed more as a standalone, or at least not paired with Spritzee.
 
This is a preview analysis. Not all possible angles must be covered, and frankly this is already almost too long.

Uploaded.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top