1v1 Ferrothorn [DONE]

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[OVERVIEW]

Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 metagame due to its great mixed bulk in conjunction with its unique typing allowing it to defeat top-tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, its wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense, and Confide enables it to beat prominent physical and special threats like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna. Its high-powered STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball further help it have just a little bit of an offensive presence and beat Water-types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini, and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott, and Tapu Lele. However, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu, and Mega Venusaur, which are all faster and have better recovery moves. Additionally, Ferrothorn has hardly any form of recovery outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do, as it gets whittled down very easily. Lastly, Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire means that top-tier threats such as Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, Dragonite, and Incineroar all have coverage moves to beat it no matter the situation.

[SET]
name: Stall
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse / Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
evs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 64 Def / 176 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorn's only ways to regain HP and is key for continuously whittling down foes such as non-Hidden Power Fire Magearna, non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, and Donphan. Confide, when used as a Z-Move, boosts Ferrothorn's Special Defense by one stage and helps neuter special attackers such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone, and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further boost its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with foes such as Porygon2, Crustle, and the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross. Iron Defense, while seeming inferior in the sense of not providing an Attack raise, boosts Ferrothorn's already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Swords Dance Mega Pinsir. Gyro Ball is usually Ferrothorn's most powerful STAB move thanks to its exceedingly low Speed and is a reliable way to beat Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
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252 HP and 176 Special Defense EVs make Ferrothorn capable of usually beating Magnezone, taking its Gigavolt Havoc in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z-Confide. Furthermore, this investment also almost guarantees that Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. Notably, 16 EVs in Attack ensure that Iron Defense Ferrothorn can almost always beat 0 HP EVs Swords Dance + Earthquake Mega Pinsir with Gyro Ball. The remaining 64 EVs are put into Defense, allowing Ferrothorn the chance to beat as many physical threats as possible, most notably neutral-natured non-Swords Dance. 0 IVs in Speed maximize Gyro Ball's damage output.

Usage Tips
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Leech Seed should in many cases be used almost immediately unless Ferrothorn is up against setup Pokemon such as Mega Pinsir or Grass-types such as Tapu Bulu and non-Hidden Power Fire Mega Venusaur, since Ferrothorn's lack of reliable recovery options can leave it whittled down very easily. Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster Speed tier, it is vulnerable to faster Pokemon, so you generally want to send Ferrothorn against a special attacker that doesn't have Fire- or Fighting-type coverage, such as Magearna, Tapu Fini, or Primarina. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran, and Mega Lucario should be avoided, as well as PP stalling Pokemon such as Type: Null and Mega Slowbro. In order to beat Magearna, you should first use Z-Confide, followed by Leech Seed next turn. Follow this up with more Confide to slowly whittle down Magearna's health while remaining out of range for its Twinkle Tackle, and once its health is low enough, finish it off with Gyro Ball. For simpler Pokemon such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, use Z-Confide and then use Gyro Ball until they are KOed while also avoiding being shut down by Encore from Primarina or Taunt from Tapu Fini. On the other hand, use Curse or Iron Defense to deal with physical attackers such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar, as once Ferrothorn is set up, they are unable to do much damage at all to it. Whenever you see Fairy-types or fragile heavy hitters such as Mega Diancie, Tapu Lele, and Hoopa-U, Ferrothorn should take advantage of its Speed tier by using its strong Gyro Ball It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful, allowing Ferrothorn to beat Sturdy Pokemon like Donphan and Carracosta as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super effective coverage such as non-Choice Specs Meloetta. Using Curse is entirely up to your preference, whether it's for types of threats you're are trying to beat within your team or if you want more offensive power to beat more defensive threats such as Porygon2 and Chansey. Curse is especially useful against Porygon2 because it allows Ferrothorn to not get PP stalled by Recover while also being able to improve its offensive capabilities in tandem with Gyro Ball. On the other hand, you may want to use Iron Defense if you want to beat more offensive physical threats such as Swords Dance Landorus-T, Mega Pinsir, and Garchomp.

Team Options
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Due to this Ferrothorn set being a defensive staller, offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-T, and Hoopa-U are beneficial, as they overpower Taunt users such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-S, and Kee Berry Mew, while Ferrothorn can deal with some of 1v1's most metagame-defining threats such as Tapu Lele, Porygon-Z, and Mega Gardevoir. Ferrothorn appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as Tapu Fini, Primarina, and Mega Gyarados, as they take care of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its way such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, and Incineroar. Ferrothorn takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone in return. Fire-types of your own such as Mega Charizard, Volcarona, and Incineroar are also worth noting because they help cover the Water-types' weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior, and Tapu Bulu. Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types, beating Rock- and Ground-types including Golem, Donphan, and Carracosta and completing the well-known Fire / Water / Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert, and Landorus-T are other options for beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat Steel-types such as Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. Ferrothorn can deal with Water-types that they struggle to fight against such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados, non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, and Manaphy in return. Steel-types that take neutral damage from Fighting-type moves such as Magearna, Mega Metagross, and Jirachi are generally very helpful, as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa, and Sawk, while Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Ground- and Ghost-types in the metagame such as Krookodile and Zygarde-C.

[SET]
name: Grassium Z
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed enables Ferrothorn to chip threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile, and Donphan to the point where Bloom Doom can finish them off. Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorn's main way of dishing out heavy damage, being able to OHKO non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise, and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way to scout for stat-dropping or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or to chip down foes to the point where Bloom Doom can pick them off, such as Magnezone, Twinkle Tackle Magearna, and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorn's offensive capabilities, making it able to beat Mega Slowbro. Curse is an option in this set to boost Bloom Doom's damage output and to increase Ferrothorn's already great Defense stat to greater heights, allowing it to beat Umbreon and Foul Play Mega Sableye. Iron Defense allows Ferrothorn to enhance its already great bulk and beat physical Dragonite. Protect is another option if you want to stall out Leech Seed turns and scout for Z-Moves from Pokemon like Porygon-Z and Aegislash.

Set Details
========

Maximum HP investment and 32 Defense EVs with an Impish nature allow Ferrothorn to use Substitute against Choice Scarf Haxorus's Superpower, as well as boosting its special bulk. Additionally, 224 Attack EVs allow Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after two uses of Superpower and two rounds of Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensuring it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance. Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny, as well as having a chance of beating Mega Gallade if it uses Close Combat turn one.

Usage Tips
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Use Bloom Doom to break through frail Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Zeraora. Grassium Z can be used alongside not only Power Whip but also Leech Seed, allowing Ferrothorn to negate stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, and Mega Aggron; therefore, deciding which Z-Move to use will depend on which Pokemon you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately to either beat Pokemon that rely on a one-time nuke such as Twinkle Tackle Magearna and Breakneck Blitz Meloetta or avoid Scald burns from Mega Slowbro and Suicune. You also shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles against Pokemon like Type: Null and Mega Latias, which are almost a guaranteed loss. It's better to try whittling down Sturdy Pokemon and use Ferrothorn's stat-boosting moves to its advantage against Pokemon such as Golem and Mega Tyranitar.

Team Options
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Due to Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt to form a Fire / Water / Grass core team, as Water- and Fire-types both have a solid typing synergy with Ferrothorn and can deal with opposing Fire- and Steel-types. Water-type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini, and Greninja are good teammates for Ferrothorn, as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorn's massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X, and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types that the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Mega Venusaur, Tapu Bulu, and Serperior, while Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta, and Mega Swampert. Pokemon that can beat Fighting-type Pokemon such as Mega Gardevoir, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated, as they deal with threatening Pokemon such as Sawk, Pheromosa, and Kommo-o, while Ferrothorn can deal with physical attackers like Mega Pinsir due to its high defensive capabilities. Mega Slowbro, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn, as it can deal with both Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, while Ferrothorn can deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass-type Pokemon. Ferrothorn is vulnerable to Taunt, so wallbreakers such as Garchomp, Kartana, and Tapu Lele that can deal heavy damage to Taunt users including Mega Mawile, Mega Sableye, and Mew are very much-appreciated partners. While the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong, they have trouble dealing with faster foes that Ferrothorn can beat such as Mega Lopunny and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z. Finally, Ferrothorn has a hard time against faster foes such as Tectonic Rage Garchomp, Taunt Mega Aggron, and Aegislash, so having an agile teammate such as Mega Lopunny, Volcarona, or Greninja is very helpful in this aspect. Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Primarina, and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can also be used for extra longevity; however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal that beat many prominent threats, it struggles to pick the proper moves to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed; examples include non-Taunt Thundurus-T, Porygon2, and Avalugg.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, and Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and can OHKO it with their respective STAB moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective Coverage**: Choice Scarf Togekiss, Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Specs Meloetta, and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves while taking very little or significant damage from Ferrothorn's STAB moves.

**Fighting-types**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o, and Mega Lopunny are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn, as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care very little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either their access to Sturdy or their ability to KO it before it does the same.

**Taunt**: Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt because it leaves it unable to recover its HP with Leech Seed, meaning foes can stall it much more easily. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, and Deoxys-S are all able to Taunt Ferrothorn and either PP stall it, use it as setup fodder, or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves, although you should be aware that Z-Confide can temporarily bypass Taunt in certain matchups.

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster recovery moves, it tends to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose, so beware of Pokemon such as Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana, and Mega Pinsir are all able to use Ferrothorn as setup fodder and use their respective moves to beat it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[Osra, 239997], [Shyom, 469945], [Alakazam, 276708]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack,232216], [A Cake Wearing A Hat, 388157]]

 

[PA]

im done ready for first qc

 

[The Official Glyx]

Red = needs change
Red strikethrough = remove
Green = elaborate
Blue = my commentary

[OVERVIEW]
• Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier due to its great mixed bulk, in conjunction with its unique typing allows it to defeat top tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Altaria-Mega Fire Blast is too prominent of a threat to reasonably include this, replace with something more relevant like Tapu Lele.
• Ferrothorn is also able to stall out opposing pokemon using Leech Seed allowing it to restore HP and help within the long run. This is not the Moves section
• In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense and Confide enabling it to beat top tier physical and special threats, which without it wouldn't be able to beat, examples include: Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna.
• On the other hand, due to its subpar speed tier, it greatly reduces its offensive presence leaving it to be a sitting duck in most situations. This is more ideally talked about and expanded upon either in Usage Tips or Checks and Counters
• Furthermore, it holds a 4x weakness to fire, which top tier threats such as Charizard, Heatran, Dragonite and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it or outright are able to defeat it no matter the situation. Move this to the bottom. It's ideal to structure your Overview in order from the most positive positive down to the most negative negative.
• In spite of this, however, it gets high STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball, further helping it to have just a little bit of offensive presence but also being able to beat Water mons such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini and Primarina. You only named things Power Whip is good for-
[SET]
name: Defensive Staller
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Curse / Iron Defense Moves in this section should be ordered from most important down to least important, meaning moves like this that are unimportant enough to be slashed should be closer to the bottom.
move 3: Confide
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
evs: 248 HP/ 72 Def/ 188 SpD
0 ivs in Spe should be mentioned here, no?

SET COMMENTS
Moves
• Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorns' only ways in order to gain HP and is key for continuously whittling Foes while also gaining HP in the process.
• Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with Foes such as Magearna, Porygon2, and Crustle You don't need Curse to deal with this.
• Iron Defense while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining an attack raise, is just as useful helping its already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as non taunt Gyarados-Mega You don't need specifically Iron Defense to deal with this and Landorus-Therian.
• Confide, used with its Z move, helps clear out the special side of Foes such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone and Meloetta.
• Gyro Ball is one of Ferrothorns' most powerful STAB moves and is reliable in beating down Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Gardevoir-Mega and Diancie-Mega.
• Make sure you reorder the moves here to match the order in the Set

Set Details
========

• The 248HP and 188 SpD EVs allows it to be capable of beating Magnezone with Z-Zap Cannon in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z Confide.
• The 72 EVs, are Leftover EVs allowing to beat as many physical threats as possible such as non-Adamant Landorus-Therian and SD Garchomp, although if you are running Iron Defense it is still a roll even with the boosts so be cautious.

Usage Tips
========
• When using this Ferrothorn set you will generally want to get a special attacking mon that doesn't consist of the Fire-, Fighting - or have either of the coverage. If all of those conditions are met and you aren't against a PP stalling mon such as Type Null, Slowbro-Mega or Venusaur-Mega, then you should be fine. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini and Primarina are all examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against.
• As for Tapu Fini and Primarina the same still stands, however unlike Magearna, it is easier to beat it down with Z Confide but in Magearna's Case without Curse, it finds it harder to beat down.
• On the other hand, with physical Pokemon it becomes a little bit harder, however, due to having Iron Defense it makes its job a lot easier, all you simply have to do is get physical attackers such as Zeraora, Crustle, and Tyranitar-Mega and Iron Defense should do the rest.

Team Options
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• Due to Ferrothorns' 4x weakness to Fire, Water-Type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini and Gyarados-Mega are good teammates for each other as they both cover each other's weaknesses and benefit from them both as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric- and Grass- Pokemon which hinder the previous 3 allies mentioned, while they deal with the fire weakness. Redundant, you already mentioned this. Also, be sure to provide examples of which relevant Electric and Grass types Ferrothorn deals with for these allies.
• You can also opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass core team which can also deal with Electric-, Grass -, Steel-, Rock- types. FWG is good, but be sure to name some good Pokemon you can make this core out of, how they cover Ferrothorn's weaknesses, how Ferrothorn covers their weaknesses, etc.
• Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X and Heatran can effectively deal with the Foes that Water-types cannot deal with such as Magnezone and Zeraora. Perhaps combine this bullet and the first bullet with the above bullet into one single bullet about viable FWG cores that Ferrothorn can fit into.
• Pokemon which can beat Fighting-Type Pokemon such as Gardevoir-Mega, Slowbro-Mega Perhaps replace this with another example like Primarina or Sableye, since you already have another bullet dedicated to Slowbro, and Magearna are greatly appreciated as they deal with the Pokemon which threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa and Kommo-o. And what's Ferro doing for them?
• Slowbro-Mega, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting- Pokemon for Ferrothorn while it is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass- Pokemon.
• Wallbreakers that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt Be sure to actually name some viable Taunt users that give Ferrothorn problems is very necessary, so allies such as Hoopa-Unbound, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele are all very much appreciated. What does Ferro do for these Pokemon in return?
• Finally, due to Ferrothorns' extremely low speed, it finds a hard time against faster Foes such as Garchomp, Naganadel This kills you with Fire moves, not by being faster, and Metagross-Mega Besides Hammer Arm, this doesn't really kill you at all. Better examples would be Aegislash, Donphan, and Taunt Aggron, hence having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates such as Lopunny-Mega, Zeraora and Greninja Make sure the teammates are Pokemon that reliably beat the threats listed. None of these mons reliably beat your Metagross example, and with the three new threats I've provided, you may need to change which mons are best suited as allies for Ferrothorn are all very helpful in this aspect. As usual, make sure you've provided examples of which mons these allies are weak to that Ferrothorn helps to cover
Other Options
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• Alternatively, you can choose to run a set of Power Whip, Leech Seed, Protect and Gyro Ball in tandem with a spread of 248HP/ 80 Atk/ 180 Def with Grassium Z, which allows Ferrothorn to live a High Jump Kick from Lopunny-Mega and in return OHKO it with Grassium Z, this also helps it beat Gyarados-Mega 1v1 despite the fact of its Attack stat being lowered to Intimidate. I discussed this with the other QCs and we've decided to make Grassium Ferrothorn into its own Set. More on this below.
• Protect can also be used if you want to gain more leech seed recovery while also being able to scout for Z moves but it makes Ferrothorn more susceptible to special Foes.
• Rest can also be used for extra longevity, however, due to Ferrothorns' 4MSS, it struggles to pick the moves enabled to deal with all the threats needed.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Charizard, Incineroar, Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type moves.

**Pokemon with Super effective coverage**: Naganadel, Greninja, Togekiss, Meloetta and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using using what while taking very little or necessary damage in order to kill it from Ferrothorns' STAB moves.

**Fighting-Types**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o and Lopunny-Mega are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having Sturdy, or being able to kill it before it does the same back.

** Taunt**: Mega Sableye is able to prevent Ferrothorn from doing anything leading it to become dead weight, not even being stalled out by Leech Seed or other status moves such as Toxic and is able to Will-O-Wisp it making it unable to do damage in comparison. Apart from the previous mentioned, Pokemon such as Mew, Mawile-Mega, Deoxys-S are all able to taunt it and either pp stall it, use it as setup or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves.

** Rest**: Due to Ferrothorns' lackluster recovery moves , it leads it to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose so beware of Pokemon such as Suicune, Venusaur-Mega and Slowbro-Mega.

** Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana and Volcarona are all able to use it as setup and use their respective moves in order to beat it.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[poison-adhesive,430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[, ], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

Regarding Grassium, the QC team believes it to be ideal that you make another Set analysis. This means you will need additional sections for:

[SET]
Moves
Set Details
Usage Tips

The new Set will come right after the Usage Tips section of the previous Set.

Here's the set to use, with proper move structure
Ferrothorn @ Grassium Z
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Substitute
- Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect

The physical bulk being to withstand Lopunny's combination of Fake Out + HJK, while the Atk is to OHKO non-HP Fire Greninja, Blastoise, and get as reliable of a roll to KO Lopunny after Iron Barbs damage as possible.

Sorry for dropping the extra work on you, but it shouldn't be so bad, as long as you know what Grassium is good for.

 

[PA]

Osra ready for a second look

 

[The Official Glyx]

First, you labeled your Moves section Set Details and didn't include the actual Set Details.

Second, ideally, you should use examples that Grassium is good for, that the Z-Confide struggles with, like Donphan/Golem, Sableye, non-HP Fire Venusaur, Aggron, etc.

Third, in the Usage Tips for Grassium, be sure to include:

• A tip on Z-Leech Seed:
  • What it does, what it's useful against, etc.
• A tip on how to ideally use Substitute:
  • Subbing immediately against Fairium Magearna so that they're forced to lower their SpA with Fleur Cannon
  • Subbing immediately against Magnezone/ton and following up with Z-Leech Seed if they used Metal Sound turn 1
  • Subbing immediately against Slowbro so you don't risk getting burned by Scald
  • Subbing immediately against Venusaur so they can't Charm you multiple times
  • Subbing immediately against Normalium Meloetta to avoid a boosted Z-Hyper Beam
  • etc; you don't need to go in-depth on all of these, just make sure the general idea gets across
• Get rid of Garchomp as an example, Banded Fire Fang and SD Groundium smash you

 

[The Official Glyx]

Upon discussing with other QC/staff, it has been determined that yes, the moves covered by Z-Confide also need to be covered in Grassium, but make sure to clarify what the moves do for the Grassium set that they don't quite emulate for Z-Confide, such as how Curse on Grassium would boost Z-Power Whip, and what that might be useful for, as well as Leech Seed going from your main win condition with Z-Confide to chip damage for Z-Power Whip to finish things off.

Examples for Leech Seed being Slowbro, Mawile, and Aggron
Examples for Curse being Sableye and Umbreon
An example for Iron Defense being physical Dragonite

Also in your usage tip for Z-Leech Seed, make sure you note that it also goes through Taunt, allowing it to beat Gyarados, Aggron, Mawile, and Krookodile more reliably.

 

[The Official Glyx]

In double checking everything to make sure things are up to snuff, I found quite a few issues with Team Options.

Team Options
========
• Due to Ferrothorns' 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass core team which both provide a solid typing synergy with each other and can deal with Electric-, Grass -, Steel-, Rock- types. Water-Type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini and Gyarados-Mega are good teammates for each other as they both cover each other's weaknesses and benefit from them both as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric- and Rock-types such as Zeraora, Golem and Carracosta Why are Rock types a problem to the Water types this sentence is talking about? while they deal with Ferrothorns' massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types which the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Venusaur-Mega, Tapu Bulu and Serperior. This would be a good point to mention Ferro covering those Rock types, and Ground types as well.
• Pokemon which can beat Fighting-Type Pokemon such as Gardevoir-Mega, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated as they deal with the Pokemon which threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa and Kommo-o whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the physical side of Pokemon due to its defensive capabilities being so high. This is extremely vague and has no examples backing it to illustrate your point
• Slowbro-Mega, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting- Pokemon for Ferrothorn while it is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass- Pokemon.
• Wallbreakers that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt including Mawile-Mega, Sableye-Mega and Mew is very necessary, so allies such as Hoopa-Unbound, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele are all very much appreciated. What does Ferrothorn do in return for them?
• Finally, due to Ferrothorns' extremely low speed, it finds a hard time against faster Foes such as Garchomp, Taunt Mega-Aggron and Aegislash, hence having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates such as Lopunny-Mega, Volcarona and Greninja are all very helpful in this aspect while Ferrothorn can help deal with their vulnerability to losing to strong heavy-hitters and hence can use its status boosting moves to help with their matchups. Another vague point, be sure to provide examples.
Other Options
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[The Official Glyx]

You did it

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[Shyom]

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QC Time
Blue - additions, Red - comments, Underline - elaborate, Superstrike - remove

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[OVERVIEW]
• Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier due to its great mixed bulk, in conjunction with its unique typing allows it to defeat top tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele.
• In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense and Confide enabling it to beat top tier physical and special threats, which without it wouldn't be able to beat, examples include: Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna.
• On the other hand, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-Type Pokemon which are both faster and have better recovery moves such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu and Venusaur-Mega.
• It would be great if you mention what Ferrothorn does the other Grass-type Pokemon can't do (better bulk or typing maybe, better utility)
• Additionally, Ferrothorn lacks hardly any types of recovery moves which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do as it gets whittled down very easily.
• On the bright side, however, it gets high power STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball, further helping it to have just a little bit of offensive presence, but also being able to beat Water-Types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-Types such as Diancie-Mega, Whimsicott and Tapu Lele.
• Ferrothorn holds a 4x weakness to Fire, which top tier threats such as Charizard, Heatran, Dragonite and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it or outright are able to defeat it no matter the situation.

[SET]
name: Defensive Staller
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse/Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
EVs: 248 HP/ 72 Def/ 188 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe

SET COMMENTS
Moves
• Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorns' only ways to gain HP and is key for continuously whittling Foes such as?
• Confide, used with its Z move, boosts Ferrothorn's special defense stat by one stage and helps clear out the special side of Foes such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone and Meloetta.
• Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with Foes such as Magearna, Porygon2, and Crustle. Magearna and Porygon2 aren't the prime examples especially since Curse boosts the physical side of defense, yes it helps deal more damage but a physical attacker would be a better example, something like non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross. If you'd want to add them, clarify how the attack boost really helps.
• Iron Defense while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining an attack raise, is just as useful helping its already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Metagross-Mega You still beat this with Curse, as long as it does not have Hammer Arm and Landorus-Therian Lando-T just beats you regardless of it being BUp or SD it also has Sub to avoid Leech which is vital to this set
• Gyro Ball is one of Ferrothorns' most powerful STAB moves and is reliable in beating down Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Gardevoir-Mega and Diancie-Mega.

Set Details
========

• The 248HP and 188 SpD EVs allow it to be capable of beating Magnezone with Z-Zap Cannon in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z Confide.
• The 72 EVs, are Leftover EVs allowing to beat as many physical threats as possible such as non-Adamant Landorus-Therian and SD Garchomp, although if you are running Iron Defense it is still a roll even with the boosts so be cautious.
• Why 0 IVs?

Usage Tips
========
• Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre speed tier, it greatly lowers its offensive presence mention how this lackluster speed tier of it actually empowers Gyro Ball, so you generally want to get a avoid special attacking Pokemon that doesn't consist of the Fire-, Fighting - typings or have either of the coverage such as?
• If all of those conditions are met and you aren't against a PP stalling mon such as Type: Null, Slowbro-Mega or Venusaur-Mega, then you should be fine. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini and Primarina are all types examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against.
• As for Tapu Fini and Primarina the same still stands, however unlike Magearna, it is easier to beat it down with Z Confide but in Magearna's Case without Curse, it finds it harder to beat down.
• On the other hand, with physical Pokemon it becomes a little bit harder, however, due to having Iron Defense it makes its job a lot easier, all you simply have to do is get physical attackers such as Zeraora and Tyranitar-Mega leaving Iron Defense to be your saving grace.
When do I use Leech Seed? When should I run Curse over Iron Defense and vice-versa? When should I let it rip (use Gyro Ball)

Where is the team options?

[SET]
name: Grassium Z [Offensive]
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 Def
IVs: 0 Spe


SET COMMENTS
Moves
• Leech Seed is the highest priority in this set, in conjunction with Z-Power Whip, enabling it to chip threats to the point where Grassium can clean up examples include Slowbro-Mega, Mawile-Mega and Donphan.
• Z-Power Whip is also Ferrothorns' main way of dishing out heavy damage being able to OHKO non-HP Fire Greninja, Blastoise and Primarina.
• Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way in order to scout for stat-dropping moves or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or chipping it down to the point where Grassium Z can pick them off examples include non-specs Magearna, Magnezone and Crustle.
• Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorns' offensive capabilities, being able to beat Audino-Mega, Tapu Lele and Slowbro-Mega. Do you really need SD for Slowbro?
• Curse is used in this set particularly to boost Z-Power Whips damage output allowing it to beat Umbreon and Sableye-Mega. Curse give +1 not +2 that SD gives. Mention how Curse boosts defenses and when it helps.
• Iron Defense, as uncommon as it may sound helps in a few situations entitling it to enhance its already great bulk, providing it to beat physical Dragonite and Scarf Haxorus.
• Protect is another option if you want to stall out Leech Seed turns and scout for Z moves, however, its other moves are so important that they are usually preferred more. What matchups does Protect help with?

Set Details
• 252HP in conjunction with 176 Def EVs, allow Ferrothorn to live Fake Out + High Jump Kick from Lopunny-Mega while also being able to beat Gyarados-Mega, Golem and Donphan.
• The 80 Evs in Atk are leftovers, providing it to beat as many offensive threats as possible with its Z move, being able to OHKO bulky Water-types such as Primarina and Tapu Fini.
• Why 0 IVs?

Usage Tips
• When using Grassium Z, unlike the aforementioned set, you are trying to break through pokemon rather than the latter, hence getting frail pokemon such as Tapu Lele, Zeraora and Lopunny-Mega is key in order to plough through them with your Z move.
• Grassium Z does not only contain usage of Power Whip but also Z-Leech Seed allowing it to stop stat-lowering moves could be worded better, you're not stopping the stat-lowering moves, you're removing the stat drops such as Metal Sound from who? while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Gyarados-Mega, Magnezone, Aggron-Mega and Krookodile more reliably, therefore, deciding which Z move to use will depend on the Pokemon in which you are facing.
• Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately in order to beat down Pokemon which either contain a one time nuke such as Fairium Z Magearna and Normalium Z Meloetta or avoiding Scald burns from Slowbro-Mega and Suicune.
• As this set is much more offensive than the previous you shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles what Pokemon should I avoid? as it will almost guarantee a loss, hence you will want to try and whittle down Sturdy Pokemon and use its stat-boosting moves to its advantage examples include Golem and Tyranitar-Mega.
• It's also worth taking note that this set, in particular, provides more flexibility towards which threats you want to beat because of the variety of set-up moves it has at its disposal, hence using this set will completely depend on the users' preference and what they are using it for.

Team Options
========
• Due to Ferrothorns' 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass core team which both provide a solid typing synergy with each other and can deal with Electric-, Grass -, Steel-, Rock- types. Water-Type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini and Greninja are good teammates for each other as they both cover each other's weaknesses and benefit from them both as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorns' massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types which the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Venusaur-Mega, Tapu Bulu and Serperior whilst Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, non-SD Landorus-Therian BUp and Sub still beats you and Swampert-Mega.
• Pokemon which can beat Fighting-Type Pokemon such as Gardevoir-Mega, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated as they deal with the Pokemon which threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa and Kommo-o whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the physical side of Pokemon due to its defensive capabilities being so high examples include Gyarados-Mega, Dragonite and Krookodile. All the possible teammates you stated still beat a good portion of these Pokemon
• Slowbro-Mega, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting- Pokemon for Ferrothorn while it is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass- Pokemon.
• Wallbreakers that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt including Mawile-Mega, Sableye-Mega and Mew is very necessary, so allies such as Hoopa-Unbound, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele These three struggle with Mega Mawile, change them are all very much appreciated. Whereas, whilst as the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong they find troubling dealing with faster Foes hence Ferrothorn is able to beat Pokemon such as Lopunny-Mega and opposing Scarf Porygon-Z using its stat-boosting moves.
• Finally, due to Ferrothorns' extremely low speed, it finds a hard time against faster Foes such as Garchomp, Taunt Mega-Aggron and Aegislash, hence having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates such as Lopunny-Mega, Volcarona and Greninja are all very helpful in this aspect while Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to losing to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Metagross-Mega, Primarina and Donphan.

Other Options
=============

• Rest can also be used for extra longevity, however, due to Ferrothorns' 4MSS Not a really good term to use especially since the target audience are new to the meta, it struggles to pick the moves enabled to deal with all the threats necessary.
• Toxic is a rare move on Ferrothorn however it has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed. such as? And what is its downsides?


Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Charizard, Incineroar, Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type moves.

**Pokemon with Super effective coverage**: Greninja, Togekiss, Meloetta and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves while taking very little or necessary damage in order to kill it from Ferrothorns' STAB moves.

**Fighting-Types**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o and Lopunny-Mega are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having Sturdy or being able to kill it before it does the same back.

** Taunt**: Mega Sableye why'd you mention the Ferro beats MSab? is able to prevent Ferrothorn from doing anything leading it to become dead weight, not even being stalled out by Leech Seed or other status moves such as Toxic and is able to Will-O-Wisp it making it unable to do damage in comparison. Apart from the previous mentioned, Pokemon such as Mew, Mawile-Mega, Deoxys-S are all able to taunt it and either pp stall it, use it as setup or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves.

** Rest**: Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre recovery moves, it leads it to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose so beware of Pokemon such as Suicune, Venusaur-Mega and Slowbro-Mega. Change Slowbro and Suicune, they still lose to Grassium, put Type:Null and something else.

** Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana and Pinsir-Mega are all able to use it as setup and use their respective moves in order to beat it.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[poison-adhesive,430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[osra,239997], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

Note: It's Mega [pokemon name] not [pokemon name]-Mega
Tag me once you implement the stuff, I'll be giving it another read before giving the stamp

 

[Shyom]

1 nitpick Shyom
Curse is used in this set particularly to boost Z-Power Whips damage output allowing it to beat Umbreon and Sableye-Mega. Curse give +1 not +2 that SD gives. Mention how Curse boosts defenses and when it helps. You lose to both if you swords dance via foul play + will o wisp whereas curse neutralises and beats it

Oh, yeah, that makes sense, however, Umbreon runs Charm while Sableye runs Taunt and WoW, making the matchups kinda hard. Implement the stuff and tell me how you feel about this before I give the stamp

 

[PA]

Shyom voila good as new

 

[Shyom]

Shyom voila good as new

Yay, time to remove bullets and here's your stamp

 

[PA]

written up and ready for qc 3/3 whenever :) Alakazam

 

[Ginger Princess]

Bolded is additions, strikethrough is stuff that should be removed, underline needs to be edited in some way, red is comments. All information I bring are based on 1630 Usage stats (considering anything at or above 6% as of June 2019 usage relevant) and Calcs.

3rd QC Check

[OVERVIEW]
Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier due to its great mixed bulk, in conjunction with its unique typing allows it to defeat top tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense and Confide enabling it to beat top tier physical and special threats, which without it wouldn't be able to beat, filler/goes without saying examples include: like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna. On the other hand, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-Type Pokemon which are both faster and have better recovery moves such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu and Mega Venusaur. Additionally, Ferrothorn lacks hardly any types of recovery moves, outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do as it gets whittled down very easily. On the bright side, however, it gets high power STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball, further helping it to have just a little bit of offensive presence, but also being able to beat Water-Types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-Types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott and Tapu Lele. Ferrothorn holds a 4x weakness to Fire, which top tier threats such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, Dragonite and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it or outright are able to defeat it no matter the situation.

[SET]
name: Defensive Staller
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse/Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
EVs: 248 HP/ 72 Def/ 188 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS] add []
Moves
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Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorns' only ways to gain HP and is key for continuously whittling Foes such as?. Confide, used with its Z move, boosts Ferrothorn's special defence stat by one stage and helps clear out the special side of Foes such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with Foes such as non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Porygon2, and Crustle. This is especially useful for Porygon2, due to the fact that it allows itself to not get PP stalled by recover whilst also being able to improve its offensive proficiencies in tandem with Gyro Ball. move this to Usage Tips Iron Defense while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining an attack raise, is just as useful helping its already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Mega Metagross Curse already beats this, hammer arm still beats you and Swords Dance Landorus-Therian and Garchomp. Gyro Ball is Ferrothorns' most powerful STAB move and is reliable in beating down Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
========

The 248HP and 188 SpD EVs allow it to be capable of beating Magnezone with Z-Zap Cannon in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z Confide. It also almost guarantees Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. The 72 Def EVs are Leftover EVs allowing allows Ferrothorn the chance if they have a purpose, they're not leftover evs. Also, if they're leftover, then why are you running a +def nature? clearly they have some kind of purpose besides a vague shot at beating lando t and chomp to beat as many physical threats as possible such as non-Adamant Landorus-Therian and SD Swords Dance Garchomp, although if you are running Iron Defense it is still a roll even with the boosts so be cautious. 0 IVs in Speed is the general option, enabling enables it to maximize Gyro Balls' damage output to the highest stage possible.

Usage Tips
========

Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre speed tier, it greatly lowers its offensive presence if ferrothorn had base 200 speed it would still lose to Mega Blaziken, Heatran, and Mega Lucario. The sentence doesn't make sense, so you generally want to get send Ferrothorn against a special attacking Pokemon that doesn't consist don't have of the Fire- and Fighting-typeings or have either of the coverage examples include. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini and Primarina are all types examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against. move that sentence up here. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran and Mega Lucario should be avoided. If all of those conditions are met and you aren't against a as well as PP stalling mon such as Type: Null, Mega Slowbro or Mega Venusaur, then you should be fine. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini and Primarina are all types examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against. As for Tapu Fini and Primarina the same still stands, however unlike Magearna, it is easier to beat it down with Z Confide but in Magearna's Case without Curse, it finds it harder to beat down. This sentence needs to be fixed, you're jumping back and forth from subject to subject. Just say something like 'in order to beat Magearna, *insert step by step process*. For simpler Pokemon such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, you can just *step by step process*' On the other hand, with physical Pokemon it becomes a little bit harder, however, due to having Iron Defense it makes its job a lot easier, all you simply have to do is get physical attackers such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar leaving Iron Defense to be your saving grace. Leech Seed should be used almost immediately unless it's against taunt oriented pokemon such as Mega Aggron and Mega Mawile or physical wallbreakers such as Crustle, Skarmory or Mega Mawile due to the fact that Ferrothorn is very fragile in terms of recovery options and can get whittled down very easily. move this to the front, also mention to not leech seed against grass types Whenever you see Fairy-types or Fragile heavy-hitters such as Hoopa-Unbound, Mega Diancie and Tapu Lele, the first thing that should be on your mind is clicking Gyro Ball allowing it to use its speed tier to its advantage empowering the threats mentioned. It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful allowing it to beat Sturdy mons but also for whittling Special threats like Donphan and Carracosta and as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super effective coverage, such as non-specs Meloetta. Using Curse or Iron Defense is entirely up to user's preference and what type of threats they are trying to beat within their team, whether they want more offensive power for what? or increasing their defensive stronghold. for what?

Team Options
========

Due to this Ferrothorns' set being a defensive staller, it leads it to be a so "not up to scratch" Pokemon in terms of offensive presence, but with the help of its allies, it alleviates the pressure given to it so offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-Therian and Hoopa-Unbound are all types of Pokemon in which you'll want to be by your side why? what do they beat that ferrothorn struggles with? what does ferrothorn do to help them?. Ferrothorn has just won the lottery, and its prizes are appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as try to be as to the point as possible Tapu Fini, Primarina and Mega Gyarados allowing it to not be afraid of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its ways such as Mega Charizard, Heatran and Incineroar whilst Ferrothorn becomes their No #1 fan enabling Ferrothorn to takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone which make them cower in fear. The aforementioned Fire-types Mega Charizard, Volcarona and Incineroar are also worth noting due to the fact that they help cover the Water-types weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior and Tapu Bulu whilst Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types beating the Rock- and Ground-types examples include including Golem, Donphan and Carracosta which together form the infamous Fire/Water/Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert and Landorus-Therian are another option at beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat down Steel-types such as Magearna you beat magearna and Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. On the other hand, Ferrothorn can deal with the Ice- and Water-types that they struggle to fight against examples include such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados, non-HP Fire Greninja, and Manaphy and the rarely seen Mega Abomasnow. irrelevant Garchomp gets a special mention due to the fact that unlike the previous Ground-types mentioned, it can beat both Charizard forms which the other Ground-types can't not really true at all. Donphan, Golem, Zygarde, Scarf Lando t, etc etc which is very important considering how much of an impact both Charizard formes are in the current metagame. Psychic- and Fairy-types Steel-types that take neutral Fighting-type damage, such as Magearna, Mega Metagross and Jirachi are generally very helpful as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa and Sawk whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Dark- and Poison-types Ground- and Ghost-types within the tier such as Krookodile, Nihilego all 3 of those mons beat nihilego and Mega Gengar. Although As Taunt is significantly hurtful to both of Ferrothorns' sets, it's even more important to have a backup to taunt-oriented Pokemon such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-Speed and stall Mew as this particular set as it can only function through setup and it getting taunted only leads to a scenario where it can only use Gyro Ball which the threats mentioned can easily deal with using their respected moves. As for what Pokemon to bring, having strong heavy-hitters such as Hoopa-Unbound, Mega Mawile and Porygon-Z can deal with them Taunt users such as stall Deoxys-S and Mew fairly well while Ferrothorn can use its bulk and deal with faster foes like Magearna, Mega Metagross and Zeraora.

[SET]
name: Grassium Z [Offensive]
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Impish Nature no need for min speed without gyro ball
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 176 Def 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def are the new evs, check discord
IVs: 0 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed is the highest priority in this set, in conjunction with Z-Power Whip Bloom Doom, enabling it to chip threats to the point where Grassium can clean up examples include Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile and Donphan. Power Whip Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorns' main way of dishing out heavy damage being able to OHKO non-HP Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way in order to scout for stat-dropping moves or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or chipping it down to the point where Grassium Z can pick them off examples include non-specs Fairium Magearna, Magnezone and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorns' offensive capabilities, being able to beat Mega Audino, no Psychium Z Tapu Lele and Slowbro-Mega. Curse is used in this set particularly to boost Z-Power Whips damage output allowing it to beat Umbreon and Sableye-Mega. what? why would you ever run curse if its only to boost attack when you have swords dance? it has to have a use outside of offense or else its pointless Iron Defense, as uncommon as it may sound helps in a few situations entitling it to enhance its already great bulk, providing it to beat physical Dragonite and Scarf Haxorus. sub beats scarf hax Protect is another option if you want to stall out Leech Seed turns and scout for Z moves examples include Porygon-Z, Aegislash and Chansey however, its other moves are so important that they are usually preferred more.

Set Details
========

252 HP in conjunction with 176 Def EVs, allow Ferrothorn to live Fake Out + High Jump Kick from Lopunny-Mega 1. They won't ever use fake out, they will always just hjk first. This would be fine if you ohkoed with z-power whip anyway after iron barbs, but you do not. 80 Atk Ferrothorn Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lopunny-Mega: 222-262 (81.9 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO adding on 12.5% for iron barbs gives min roll at 94%ish, which is nowhere near guaranteed. These are inherently flawed evs, we need to work with what to actually ev ferro for while also being able to beat Gyarados-Mega, Golem and Donphan. The 80 Evs in Atk is leftovers, providing it to beat as many offensive threats as possible with its Z move, being able to OHKO bulky Water-types such as Primarina and Tapu Fini.

This section needs to be completely overhauled. Instead just write about these points:

• 252 HP evs and 32 def evs with an Impish Nature allows Ferrothorn to use Substitute against a Choice Scarf Haxorus' Superpower, as well as maximizing Ferrothorn's Special bulk as well
• 224 Atk allows Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after 2 Superpowers and Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensures it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance
• Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run EVs: 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside the move Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny.

Usage Tips
========

When using Grassium Z, unlike the aforementioned set, you are trying to break through pokemon rather than the latter, hence getting frail pokemon such as Tapu Lele, Zeraora and Lopunny-Mega see reasons in set details is key in order to plough through them with your Z move. Grassium Z does not only contain usage of Power Whip Bloom Doom but also Z-Leech Seed allowing it to remove stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Gyarados-Mega, Magnezone, Aggron-Mega and Krookodile just z move krook more reliably, therefore, deciding which Z move to use will depend on the Pokemon in which you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately in order to beat down Pokemon which either contain a one time nuke such as Fairium Z Magearna and Normalium Z Meloetta or avoiding Scald burns from Slowbro-Mega and Suicune, or causing Choice Scarf Haxorus to lower its Attack with Superpower. As this set is much more offensive than the previous don't mention previous sets in analyses you shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles from pokemon like Type: Null, Mega Venusaur and Mega Latias as it will almost guarantee a loss, hence you will want to try and whittle down Sturdy Pokemon and use its stat-boosting moves to its advantage examples include Golem and Tyranitar-Mega. It's also worth taking note that this set, in particular, provides more flexibility towards which threats you want to beat because of the variety of set-up moves it has at its disposal, hence using this set will completely depend on the users' preference and what they are using it for.

Team Options
========

Due to Ferrothorns' 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass core team which both provide a solid typing synergy with each other and can deal with Electric-, Grass -, Steel-, Rock- types. Water-Type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini and Greninja are good teammates for each other as they both cover each other's weaknesses and benefit from them both as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorns' massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types which the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Venusaur-Mega, Tapu Bulu and Serperior whilst Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta and Swampert-Mega. Pokemon which can beat Fighting-Type Pokemon such as Gardevoir-Mega, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated as they deal with the Pokemon which threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa and Kommo-o whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the physical side of Pokemon due to its defensive capabilities being so high examples include, Mega Pinsir and Dragonite. Slowbro-Mega, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting- Pokemon for Ferrothorn while it is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass- Pokemon. Wallbreakers that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt including Mawile-Mega, Taunt Sableye-Mega and Mew is very necessary, so allies such as Garchomp, Kartana and Tapu Lele are all very much appreciated. Whereas, whilst as the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong they find troubling dealing with faster Foes hence Ferrothorn is able to beat Pokemon such as Lopunny-Mega and opposing Scarf Porygon-Z using its stat-boosting moves. Finally, due to Ferrothorns' extremely low speed, it Ferrothorn finds a hard time against faster Foes such as Garchomp, Taunt Mega-Aggron and Aegislash, hence having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates such as Lopunny-Mega, Volcarona and Greninja are all very helpful in this aspect while Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to losing to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Metagross-Mega, Primarina and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Rest can also be used for extra longevity, however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal, which beats many of the threats mentioned in the sets, it struggles to pick the moves enabled to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic is a rare move on Ferrothorn as it struggles with the above-mentioned reason being that it has too many good moves to add toxic as a possible move, however, it thats why its in OO, no need to reiterate has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed, examples include non-taunt Thundurus-Therian, and Recover users such as Porygon-2 and Avalugg.


Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-Type Pokemon**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective coverage**: Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Scarf Togekiss, Choice Specs Meloetta and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves while taking very little or necessary damage in order to kill it from Ferrothorns' STAB moves.

**Fighting-Type Pokemon**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o and Lopunny-Mega are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having Sturdy or being able to kill it before it does the same back.

**Taunt**: As Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt, it leaves it unable to recover itself with Leech Seed and hence Foes are able to stall it much easier due to it no longer having a way to increase its longevity. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, Deoxys-S are all able to taunt it and either pp stall it, use it as setup or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves. Mention that z confide and z leech seed can temporarily bypass this in certain matchups

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre recovery moves, it leads it to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose so beware of Pokemon such as Mega Venusaur rest mega venu isn't run and Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana and Mega Pinsir are all able to use it as setup and use their respective setup moves in order to beat it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[Osra, 239997], [Shyom, 469945], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

pls pls PLS stop saying 'examples include'. This is like an essay, not a bunch of bullet points. I'm just going to strikethrough all of them, pls replace with something like 'such as', 'including', 'like', or whatever.

Besides that, we need to reconfigure offensive ferrothorn. It just doesn't work reliably as intended, if lop just chooses not to use fake out

Tag me when this is implemented, bc I'll need to look at it again

 

[PA]

Alakazam implemented

 

[Ginger Princess]

qc check 2

[OVERVIEW]
Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier due to its great mixed bulk, in conjunction with its unique typing allows it to defeat top tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense and Confide enabling it to beat top tier physical and special threats like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna. On the other hand, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-Type Pokemon which are both faster and have better recovery moves such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu and Mega Venusaur. Additionally, Ferrothorn lacks hardly any types of recovery moves, outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do as it gets whittled down very easily. move this to the end, keep all the negative stuff together On the bright side, however, it gets high power STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball, further helping it to have just a little bit of offensive presence, but also being able to beat Water-Types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-Types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott and Tapu Lele. Ferrothorn holds a 4x weakness to Fire, which top tier threats such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, Dragonite and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it or outright are able to defeat it no matter the situation.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

name: Defensive Staller
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse / Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
EVs: 248 HP / 72 Def / 188 SpD i'm going to suggest changing the evs to 248 HP / 16 Atk / 68 Def / 176 SpD. the spdef is more optimized to still deal with lele and zone, while the attack guarantees you beat mega pinsir with gyro ball + iron defense.
IVs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorns' only ways to gain HP and is key for continuously whittling Foes such as non-Hidden Power Fire Magearna, non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross and Donphan. Confide, used with its Z move, boosts Ferrothorn's special defence stat by one stage and helps clear out the special side of Foes such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with Foes such as the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Porygon2, and Crustle. Iron Defense while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining an attack raise, is just as useful helping its already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Swords Dance Landorus-Therian and Garchomp. Gyro Ball is usually Ferrothorns' most powerful STAB move, thanks to its exceedingly low Speed, and is reliable in beating down Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
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The 248 HP and 188 176 SpD EVs allow it to be capable of beating Magnezone with Z-Zap Cannon in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z Confide. Furthermore, it also almost guarantees that Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. Add Attacking evs purpose The remaining 72 68 EVs, are put into Defense, allowing Ferrothorn the chance, to beat as many physical threats as possible most notably non-Adamant Landorus-Therian and Swords Dance Garchomp, although if you are running Iron Defense it is still a roll even with the boosts so be cautious. 0 IVs in Speed enables it to maximize Gyro Balls' damage output to the highest stage possible.

Usage Tips
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Leech Seed should be used almost immediately unless it's against taunt oriented pokemon such as Mega Aggron mggron will pp stall out your gyro balls and specially defensive Mega Mawile, physical wallbreakers like Crustle bruh and Skarmory or Grass types such as Tapu Bulu non Hidden Power Fire Mega Venusaur due to the fact that Ferrothorn is very fragile in terms of recovery options, can get whittled down very easily or has no effect. Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre speed tier, it makes it vulnerable to Pokemon faster than itself, so you generally want to send Ferrothorn against a special attacking Pokemon that don't have Fire- and Fighting-type coverage. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini and Primarina are all types examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran and Mega Lucario should be avoided as well as PP stalling Pokemon such as Type: Null or Mega Slowbro or Mega Venusaur. In order to beat Magearna, you should first use Z Confide in order to do two things: one being that your cancelling out Calm Mind's special attack raise but also so you can increase your special defence in the process., pretty intuitive information then Next, use Leech Seed then next turn. Follow this up with more in tandem with Confides to slowly whittle down its health whilst remaining out of range for Fairium Z to kill you and once its low enough finish it off with Gyro Ball. For simpler Pokemon, such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, all you have to do is Z Confide and use Gyro Ball until its KOed, which also avoids being shut down by Encore or Taunt, respectively. On the other hand, with physical Pokemon it becomes a little bit harder, however, due to having Iron Defense it makes its job a lot easier, so is it harder or easier? just say 'with physical mons, use Curse or Iron Defense' or something all you simply have to do is get physical attackers such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar leaving Iron Defense to be your saving grace. Whenever you see Fairy-types or Fragile heavy-hitters such as Hoopa-Unbound, Mega Diancie and Tapu Lele, the first thing that should be on your mind is clicking Gyro Ball allowing it to use its speed tier to its advantage. It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful allowing it to beat Sturdy mons but also for whittling Special threats like Donphan and Carracosta as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super-effective coverage, such as non-Choice specs Meloetta. Using Curse is entirely up to user's preference and what type of threats they are trying to beat within their team if they want more offensive power to beat more defensive threats such as Porygon2 and Chansey. This is especially useful for Porygon2, due to the fact that it allows itself to not get PP stalled by recover whilst also being able to improve its offensive proficiencies in tandem with Gyro Ball. On the other hand, you may want to use Iron Defense if you want to beat more offensive physical threats such as Swords Dance Landorus-Therian, Mega Pinsir, or Garchomp.

Team Options
========
Due to this Ferrothorns' set being a defensive staller, offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-Therian and Hoopa-Unbound are all types of Pokemon in which you'll want to be by your side as they are to overpower Taunt-users such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-Speed and Taunt Kee Berry Mew, whilst Ferrothorn can deal with some of 1v1's most meta defining threats such as Tapu Lele, Porygon-Z and Mega Gardevoir. Ferrothorn appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as are Tapu Fini, Primarina and Mega Gyarados allowing it to not be afraid of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its ways such as Mega Charizard, Heatran and Incineroar whilst Ferrothorn takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone which make them cower in fear. The aforementioned Fire-types Mega Charizard, Volcarona and Incineroar are also worth noting due to the fact that they help cover the Water-types weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior and Tapu Bulu whilst Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types, beating Rock- and Ground-types including Golem, Donphan and Carracosta which together form the infamous Fire/Water/Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert and Landorus-Therian are another option at beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat down Steel-types such as Magearna and Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. On the other hand, Ferrothorn can deal with Water-types that they struggle to fight against examples include such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados non-HP Fire Greninja, Manaphy. Steel-types that take neutral damage to Fighting-type moves such as Magearna, Mega Metagross and Jirachi are generally very helpful as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa and Sawk whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Ground- and Ghost-types within the tier such as Krookodile, Zygarde-Complete and Mega Gengar. Ferro isn't really a reliable mgar answer, as it can't ohko with gyro ball and gets 2hkoed by hex while asleep. Maybe Trevanant instead

[SET]
name: Grassium Z [Offensive] not necessary/choose one or the other for name
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Leech Seed is the highest priority in this set, in conjunction with Bloom Doom, enabling it to chip threats to the point where Grassium can clean up Pokemon such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile and Donphan. Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorns' main way of dishing out heavy damage being able to OHKO non-HP Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way in order to scout for stat-dropping moves or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or chipping it down with Leech Seed to the point where Grassium Z can pick them off examples include like Fairium Z Magearna, Magnezone and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorns' offensive capabilities, being able to beat Psychium Z Tapu Lele you naturally beat that with leech seed (I was being dumb earlier, thinking that you always lose to specs lele) and Slowbro-Mega. Curse is used in this set particularly to boost Z-Power Whips damage output, and also increasing its already abysmal defensive stat to higher heights, allowing it to beat Umbreon and Foul Play Sableye-Mega. Iron Defense, as uncommon as it may sound helps in a few situations entitling it to enhance its already great bulk, providing it to beat physical Dragonite and Scarf Haxorus sub is all u need for that. Protect is another option if you want to stall out Leech Seed turns and scout for Z moves for Pokemon like Porygon-Z, Aegislash and Chansey.

Set Details
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252 HP EVs and 32 Def Evs with an Impish Nature allows Ferrothorn to use Substitute against a Choice Scarf Haxorus' Superpower, as well as maximizing Ferrothorn's Special bulk as well. Additionally, 224 Atk allows Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after 2 Superpowers and Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensures it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance. Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run EVs: 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside the move Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny, whilst also giving Ferrothorn a good chance of beating Mega Gallade wait this needs more explanation, most mgallade run Will o wisp. Do you win after setup or if they Close Combat turn 1 or what with only 25% of the time being unlucky and Choice Scarf Sawk. the normal set also beats scarf sawk

Usage Tips
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When using Grassium Z, unlike the aforementioned set, don't mention other sets in different analyses you are trying to break through pokemon rather than the latter, hence getting frail pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Zeraora is key in order to plough through them with your Z move. Grassium Z does not only contain usage of Power Whip but also Z-Leech Seed allowing it to remove stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Gyarados-Mega, Magnezone, Aggron-Mega and Krookodile you should crush krook with bloom into whip more reliably, therefore, deciding which Z move to use will depend on the Pokemon in which you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately in order to beat down Pokemon which either contain a one time nuke such as Fairium Z Magearna and Normalium Z Meloetta or avoiding Scald burns from Slowbro-Mega and Suicune or causing Choice Scarf Haxorus to lower its Attack with Superpower. After Haxorus uses Superpower again, the chip damage caused by Iron Barbs, alongside the drop in its Defense, will put it in range of Bloom Doom. You shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles from pokemon like Type: Null, Mega Venusaur again Ferro out pp stalls non-HP fire venu and Mega Latias as it will almost guarantee a loss, hence you will want to try and whittle down Sturdy Pokemon and use its stat-boosting moves to its advantage for Pokemon such as Golem and Tyranitar-Mega. It's also worth taking note that this set, in particular, provides more flexibility towards which threats you want to beat because of the variety of set-up moves it has at its disposal, hence using this set will completely depend on the users' preference and what they are using it for. This is a bit vague; I believe what youre saying is that this set has options which allows it to beat several types of threats. That's true, but the multitude of slashed moves already implies that; i would consider rewording or removing this part

Team Options
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Due to Ferrothorns' 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass core team which both provide a solid typing synergy with each other and can deal with Electric-, Grass -, Steel-, Rock- types these all sound like POkemon Ferrothorn does super well against. Maybe instead say Fire- and Steel-types . Water-Type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini and Greninja are good teammates for each other as they both cover each other's weaknesses and benefit from them both redundant as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorns' massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types which the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Mega Venusaur, Tapu Bulu and Serperior whilst Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta and Mega Swampert. Pokemon which can beat Fighting-Type Pokemon such as Mega Gardevoir, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated as they deal with the Pokemon which threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa and Kommo-o whilst Ferrothorn can deal with the physical side of Pokemon due to its defensive capabilities being so high, these include Pokemon like Mega Pinsir and Dragonite dnite runs fire coverage all of the time. Mega Slowbro, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting- Pokemon for Ferrothorn while it is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass- Pokemon. Wallbreakers that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt including Mega Mawile, Taunt Mega Sableye and Mew is very necessary, so allies such as Garchomp, Kartana and Tapu Lele are all very much appreciated. Whereas, whilst as the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong they find troubling dealing with faster Foes hence Ferrothorn is able to beat Pokemon such as Lopunny-Mega and opposing Scarf Porygon-Z using its stat-boosting moves. Finally, Ferrothorn finds a hard time against faster Foes such as Groundium Garchomp, Taunt Mega-Aggron and Aegislash, hence having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates such as Mega Lopunny, Volcarona and Greninja are all very helpful in this aspect while Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to losing to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Metagross-Mega, Primarina and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can also be used for extra longevity, however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal, which beats many of the threats mentioned in the sets, it struggles to pick the moves enabled to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed, examples include non-taunt Thundurus-Therian, Porygon-2 and Avalugg.


Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective coverage**: Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Scarf Togekiss, Choice Specs Meloetta and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves while taking very little or necessary damage in order to kill it from Ferrothorns' STAB moves.

**Fighting-Type Pokemon**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o and Lopunny-Mega are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having Sturdy or being able to kill it before it does the same back.

**Taunt**: As Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt, it leaves it unable to recover itself with Leech Seed and hence Foes are able to stall it much easier due to it no longer having a way to increase its longevity. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, Deoxys-S are all able to taunt it and either pp stall it, use it as setup or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves although you should be aware that Z-Confide can temporarily bypass taunt in certain matchups.

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre recovery moves, it leads it to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose so beware of Pokemon such as Mega Venusaur and Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana and Mega Pinsir are all able to use it as setup and use their respective moves in order to beat it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[Osra, 239997], [Shyom, 469945], [Alakazam, 276708]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

To implement, click reply to this, then copy + paste my qc over your analysis and remove all the edited stuff

Implement this then qc 3/3

 

[deetah]

Amcheck, feel free to implement what you want from this. There were a lot of mistakes in here, I definitely recommend taking a look at the Spelling and Grammar Standards for analyses when you get a moment. Add Remove Comments (AC) = Add Comma (RC) = Remove Comma (AS) = Add Space (AA) = Add Apostrophe (AH) = Add Hyphen (SC) = Semicolon

amcheck

[OVERVIEW]
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Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier due to its great mixed bulk, (RC) in conjunction with its unique typing allows allowing it to defeat top tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense, (AC) and Confide, (AC) enabling it to beat top tier physical and special threats like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna.(AS)Furthermore, it gets high power STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball, further helping it to have just a little bit of an offensive presence, but also being able and to beat Water-Types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-Types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott, (AC) and Tapu Lele. On the other hand, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu, and Mega Venusaur which are both all faster and have better recovery moves such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu and Mega Venusaur. (Reworded this sentence to a way that makes more sense for better flow) Additionally, Ferrothorn lacks hardly any types form of recovery moves, (RC) outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do, (AC) as it gets whittled down very easily. Ferrothorn holds a 4x weakness to Fire, which meaning that top tier threats such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, Dragonite, (AC) and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it or outright are able to defeat it no matter the situation.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
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name: Defensive Staller
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse / Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 68 Def / 176 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
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Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's only ways to gain HP and is key for continuously whittling Foes down foes such as non-Hidden Power Fire Magearna, non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, (AC) and Donphan. Confide, when used with its Z move Z-Move, boosts Ferrothorn's special defence stat Special Defense by one stage and helps clear out the special side of Foes special attackers such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone, (AC) and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with foes such as the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Porygon2, and Crustle. Iron Defense, (AC) while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining an Attack raise, is just as useful helping its boosts Ferrothorn's already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Swords Dance Landorus-Therian and Garchomp. Gyro Ball is usually Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's most powerful STAB move, (RC) thanks to its exceedingly low Speed, and is reliable in beating down Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir, (AC) and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
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The 248 HP and 176 SpD Special Defense EVs allow it to be help make Ferrothorn capable of beating Magnezone with Z-Zap Cannon Gigavolt Havoc in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z-Confide (AH). Furthermore, it also almost guarantees that Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. Notably,(AS)16 EVs in Attack makes it certain that you beat Ferrothorn can beat Mega Pinsir with Gyro Ball and Iron Defense. The remaining 68 EVs, (RC) are put into Defense, allowing Ferrothorn the chance, (RC) to beat as many physical threats as possible, (AC) most notably non-Adamant Landorus-Therian and Swords Dance Garchomp, although if you are running Iron Defense, (AC) it is still a roll even with the boosts, (AC) so be cautious. 0 IVs in Speed enable it to maximize Gyro Balls' Ball's damage output to the highest stage possible.

Usage Tips
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Leech Seed should be used almost immediately unless it's against taunt Taunt-oriented pokemon such as specially defensive Mega Mawile, physical wallbreakers like Skarmory, (AC) or Grass-types such as Tapu Bulu and non-HP non-Hidden Power Fire Mega Venusaur due to the fact that Ferrothorn is very fragile in terms of recovery options, so it can get whittled down very easily or has no effect. Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre speed Ferrothorn's lackluster Speed tier, it makes it is vulnerable to Pokemon faster than itself, so you generally want to send Ferrothorn against a special attacking Pokemon that don't have Fire- and Fighting-type coverage. Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Primarina are all types examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1 against. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran, (AC) and Mega Lucario should be avoided, (AC) as well as PP stalling Pokemon such as Type: Null or Mega Slowbro(Add space and period).In order to beat Magearna, you should first use Z-Confide, (Add hyphen and remove comma) then use Leech Seed then followed by Leech Seed next turn. Follow this up with more Confides to slowly whittle down its Magearna's health whilst while remaining out of range for Fairium Z to kill you once its Twinkle Tackle, once its health is low enough finish it off with Gyro Ball. For simpler Pokemon, (RC) such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, all you have to do is use Z-Confide (AH) and use Gyro Ball until its they are KOed, which also avoids while also avoiding being shut down by Encore or Taunt, respectively. On the other hand, with physical mons, use Curse or Iron Defense in order to deal with Pokemon physical attackers (Moved it here instead) such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar, (AC) as once set-up are able to not do any damage whatsoever to Ferrothorn is set up they are unable to do much damage at all to it. Whenever you see Fairy-types or fragile heavy-hitters such as Hoopa-Unbound, Mega Diancie, (AC) and Tapu Lele, the first thing that should be on your mind is clicking Gyro Ball, (AC) allowing it Ferrothorn to use its Speed tier to its advantage. It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful, (AC) allowing it to beat Sturdy mons but also for whittling special Pokemon and to whittle special threats like Donphan and Carracosta as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super-effective super effective coverage, (RC) such as non-Choice specs Meloetta. Using Curse is entirely up to user's your preference; (SC) and what whether it's for types of threats they you're are trying to beat within their your team or if they you want more offensive power to beat more defensive threats such as Porygon2 and Chansey. (Changed this sentence a bit to adjust it nicely for the reader) This is especially useful for against Porygon2, due to the fact that it allows itself to not get PP stalled by recover whilst while also being able to improve its offensive proficiencies in tandem with Gyro Ball. On the other hand, you may want to use Iron Defense if you want to beat more offensive physical threats such as Swords Dance Landorus-Therian, Mega Pinsir, or Garchomp.

Team Options
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Due to this Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn set being a defensive staller, offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-Therian, (AC) and Hoopa-Unbound are all types of Pokemon in which you'll want to be by your side, (AC) as they are to overpower Taunt-users such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-Speed, (AC) and Kee Berry Mew, whilst while Ferrothorn can deal with some of 1v1's most metagame-defining threats such as Tapu Lele, Porygon-Z, (AC) and Mega Gardevoir. Ferrothorn appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as are Tapu Fini, Primarina, (AC) and Mega Gyarados, (AC) allowing it to not be afraid of as they take care of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its ways such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, (AC) and Incineroar. (AP) whilst Ferrothorn takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone, in return. which make them cower in fear. The aforementioned Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Volcarona, (AC) and Incineroar are also worth noting due to the fact that they help cover the Water-type's (AA) weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior, (AC) and Tapu Bulu. (AP) whilst Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types, beating Rock- and Ground-types including Golem, Donphan, (AC) and Carracosta, (AC) which together form the infamous Fire/Water/Grass Fire / Water / Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert, (AC) and Landorus-Therian are another optiona at other options for beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat down Steel-types such as Magearna and Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. On the other hand, Ferrothorn can deal with Water-types that they struggle to fight against such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados, (AC) non-HP Fire Greninja, and Manaphy, in return. Steel-types that take neutral damage to from Fighting-type moves such as Magearna, Mega Metagross, (AC) and Jirachi are generally very helpful, (AC) as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa, (AC) and Sawk whilst while Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Ground- and Ghost-types within the tier such as Krookodile and Zygarde-Complete.
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[SET]
name: Grassium Z
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Leech Seed is the highest priority move in this set, in conjunction with Bloom Doom, enabling it to chip threats to the point where Grassium Bloom Doom can clean up Pokemon such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile, (AC) and Donphan. Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's main way of dishing out heavy damage, (AC) being able to OHKO non-HP Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise, (AC) and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way in order to scout for stat-dropping moves or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or chipping it down to chip the foe with Leech Seed to the point where Grassium Z Bloom Doom can pick them off foes like Fairium Z Twinkle Tackle Magearna, Magnezone, (AC) and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's offensive capabilities, being making it able to beat and Slowbro-Mega Mega Slowbro. Curse is used in this set particularly to boost Z-Power Whips Bloom Doom's damage output, (RC) and also increasing to also increase its already abysmal defensive stat outstanding Defense to higher heights, allowing it to beat Umbreon and Foul Play Sableye-Mega Mega Sableye. (Ferrothorn doesn't have abysmal Defense??) Iron Defense, as uncommon as it may sound helps in a few situations entitling it to enhance its allows Ferrothorn to enhance its already great bulk, providing allowing it to beat physical Dragonite. Protect is another option if you want to stall out outstall Leech Seed turns and scout for Z moves for Z-Moves from Pokemon like Porygon-Z, Aegislash, (AC) and Chansey.

Set Details
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252 HP EVs Maximum HP investment and 32 Defense EVs with an Impish Nature allows Ferrothorn to use Substitute against a Choice Scarf Haxorus's Superpower, as well as maximizing Ferrothorn's special bulk as well. Additionally, 224 Atk allows Attack EVs allow Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after 2 uses of Superpowers and Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensures ensuring it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance. Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside the move Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny, (RC) whilst while also giving Ferrothorn a chance of beating Mega Gallade if they it uses Close Combat turn 1 one.

Usage Tips
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When using Grassium Z, you are trying to break through pokemon rather than the latter, hence getting Use Bloom Doom to break through frail pokemon Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Zeraora is key in order to plough through them with your Z move. Grassium Z does not only contain usage of Power Whip but also Z-Leech Seed allowing it to remove stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Gyarados-Mega, Magnezone and Aggron-Mega, therefore, deciding which Z move to use will depend on the Pokemon in which you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately in order to beat down Pokemon which either that contain either a one time nuke such as Fairium Z Twinkle Tackle Magearna and Normalium Z Breakneck Blitz Meloetta or avoiding Scald burns from Slowbro-Mega Mega Slowbro and Suicune. You also shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles from pokemon Pokemon like Type: Null and Mega Latias, (AC) as it will almost guarantee a loss, (RC) hence meaning you will want to try and whittle down Sturdy Pokemon and use its Ferrothorn's stat-boosting moves to its advantage for Pokemon such as Golem and Tyranitar-Mega Mega Tyranitar.

Team Options
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Due to Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire/Water/Grass Fire / Water / Grass core team, (AC) which both provide a solid typing synergy with each other and can deal with Fire- and Steel-types. (AP) water-Type Water-type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini, (AC) and Greninja are good teammates for each other, (AC) as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X, (AC) and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types which that the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Mega Venusaur, Tapu Bulu, (AC) and Serperior whilst while Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta, (AC) and Mega Swampert. Pokemon which that can beat Fighting-type Pokemon such as Mega Gardevoir, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated, (AC) as they deal with the Pokemon which that threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa, (AC) and Kommo-o, (AC) whilst while Ferrothorn can deal with the physical side of Pokemon attackers like Mega Pinsir due to its defensive capabilities being so high, these include Pokemon like Mega Pinsir. Mega Slowbro, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn, (AC) as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, (AC) for Ferrothorn while it Ferrothorn is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass-type Pokemon. Ferrothorn is vulnerable to Taunt, so wallbreakers such as Garchomp, Kartana, and Tapu Lele that can deal heavy damage to Ferrothorns' vulnerability to Taunt users including Mega Mawile, Taunt Mega Sableye, (AC) and Mew is very necessary, so allies such as Garchomp, Kartana and Tapu Lele are all very much appreciated partners. Whereas, whilst as While the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong, (AC) they find troubling have trouble dealing with faster foes hence that Ferrothorn is able to beat Pokemon such as Lopunny-Mega opposing Mega Lopunny and opposing Scarf Porygon-Z using its stat-boosting moves. Finally, Ferrothorn finds has a hard time against faster foes such as Groundium Tectonic Rage Garchomp, Taunt Mega-Aggron Mega Aggron, and Aegislash, hence so having an agile Pokemon is very useful so teammates teammate such as Mega Lopunny, Volcarona, (AC) and or Greninja are all is very helpful in this aspect. (AP) while Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to losing to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Metagross-Mega Mega Metagross, Primarina, (AC) and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can also be used for extra longevity; (SC) however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal, which beats that beat many of the threats mentioned in the sets, it struggles to pick the moves enabled to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed, examples include non-Taunt Thundurus-Therian, Porygon-2 Porygon2, (AC) and Avalugg.


Checks and Counters
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**Fire-Types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, and Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective coverage**: Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Scarf Togekiss, Choice Specs Meloetta, (AC) and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves to KO it while taking very little or necessary damage in order to kill it from Ferrothorns' Ferrothorn's STAB moves.

**Fighting-Type Pokemon**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o, (AC) and Lopunny-Mega Mega Lopunny are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn, (AC) as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care very little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having Sturdy or being able to kill KO it before it does the same back.

**Taunt**: As Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt, (RC) because it leaves it unable to recover itself HP with Leech Seed, (AC) and hence foes are able to stall it much easier due to it no longer having a way to increase its longevity. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, and Deoxys-S are all able to Taunt it and either pp PP stall it, use it as setup fodder, or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves, (AC) although you should be aware that Z-Confide can temporarily bypass Taunt in certain matchups.

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorns' lacklustre Ferrothorn's lackluster recovery moves, it leads it to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose so beware of Pokemon such as Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana, (AC) and Mega Pinsir are all able to use it as setup fodder and use their respective moves in order to beat it.

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[OVERVIEW]

Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 tier metagame due to its great mixed bulk in conjunction with its unique typing allowing it to defeat top-tier (AH) threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, it gets a wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense, and Confide, enabling enables it to beat top tier prominent physical and special threats like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna. Furthermore, it gets High-power (AH) STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball (RC) further helping help it to have just a little bit of an offensive presence and to beat Water-types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini, and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott, and Tapu Lele. On the other hand, However, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu, and Mega Venusaur, (AC) which are all faster and have better recovery moves. Additionally, Ferrothorn lacks has hardly any form of recovery moves outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do, as it gets whittled down very easily. Ferrothorn holds Lastly, a 4x weakness to Fire, meaning means that top-tier (AH) threats such as Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, Dragonite, and Incineroar all have coverage moves in order to beat it no matter the situation.

[SET]
name: Defensive Staller Stall
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse / Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
evs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 68 Def / 176 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorn's only ways to regain HP and is key for continuously whittling down foes such as non-Hidden Power Fire Magearna, non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, and Donphan. Confide, when used with its as a Z-Move, boosts Ferrothorn's Special Defense by one stage and helps clear out neuter special attackers such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone, and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further bolster boost its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with foes such as the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Porygon2, and Crustle. Iron Defense, while seeming inferior in the sense of not gaining providing an Attack raise, boosts Ferrothorn's already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Swords Dance Landorus-T and Garchomp. Gyro Ball is usually Ferrothorn's most powerful STAB move thanks to its exceedingly low Speed and is a reliable in beating way to beat Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
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248 HP and 176 Special Defense EVs help make Ferrothorn capable of beating Magnezone, taking its with Gigavolt Havoc in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z-Confide. Furthermore, it this investment also almost guarantees that Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. Notably, 16 EVs in Attack make it certain ensure that Ferrothorn can beat Mega Pinsir with Gyro Ball and Iron Defense. The remaining 68 EVs are put into Defense, allowing Ferrothorn the chance to beat as many physical threats as possible, most notably non-Adamant neutral-natured Landorus-T and Swords Dance Garchomp; (SC) although however, if you are running Iron Defense, it is still a roll their attacks can still KO Ferrothorn even with the boosts, so be cautious. 0 IVs in Speed maximize Gyro Ball's damage output to the highest stage possible.

Usage Tips
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Leech Seed should be used almost immediately unless it's Ferrothorn is up against Taunt-oriented pokemon such as specially defensive Mega Mawile, physical wallbreakers like Skarmory, (really?) or Grass-types such as Tapu Bulu and non-Hidden Power Fire Mega Venusaur due to the fact that Ferrothorn's lack of reliable is very fragile in terms of recovery options, so it can get can leave it whittled down very easily. Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster Speed tier, it is vulnerable to faster Pokemon faster than itself, so you generally want to send Ferrothorn against a specially attacking Pokemon that don't doesn't have Fire- and or Fighting-type coverage, (comma) Pokemon such as Magearna, Tapu Fini, and or Primarina are all examples of Pokemon in which you'll want to 1v1. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran, and Mega Lucario should be avoided, as well as PP stalling Pokemon such as Type: Null or and Mega Slowbro. In order to beat Magearna, you should first use Z-Confide, followed by Leech Seed next turn. Follow this up with more Confide to slowly whittle down Magearna's health while remaining out of range for its Twinkle Tackle, and once its health is low enough, (AC) finish it off with Gyro Ball. For simpler Pokemon such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, use Z-Confide and Gyro Ball until they are KOed while also avoiding being shut down by Encore from Primarina or Taunt, respectively from Tapu Fini. On the other hand, use Curse or Iron Defense in order to deal with physical attackers such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar, as once Ferrothorn is set up, (AC) they are unable to do much damage at all to it. Whenever you see Fairy-types or fragile heavy hitters (RH) such as Hoopa-Unbound, Mega Diancie, and Tapu Lele, the first thing that should be on your mind is clicking Gyro Ball, allowing Ferrothorn to use its Speed tier to its advantage. It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful, allowing it Ferrothorn to beat Sturdy Pokemon and to whittle down special threats like Donphan (?) and Carracosta as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super effective (RH) coverage such as non-Choice specs Meloetta. Using Curse is entirely up to your preference, (AC) whether it's for types of threats you're are trying to beat within your team or if you want more offensive power to beat more defensive threats such as Porygon2 and Chansey. This Curse is especially useful against Porygon2, due to the fact that it allows itself to not get PP stalled by Recover while also being able to improve its offensive proficiencies capabilities in tandem with Gyro Ball. On the other hand, you may want to use Iron Defense if you want to beat more offensive physical threats such as Swords Dance Landorus-T, Mega Pinsir, or and Garchomp.

Team Options
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Due to this Ferrothorn set being a defensive staller, offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-T, and Hoopa-U are all types of Pokemon in which that you'll want to be by your its side, as they overpower Taunt users (RH) such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-S, and Kee Berry Mew, while Ferrothorn can deal with some of 1v1's most metagame-defining threats such as Tapu Lele, Porygon-Z, and Mega Gardevoir. Ferrothorn appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as Tapu Fini, Primarina, and Mega Gyarados, as they take care of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its ways way such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, and Incineroar. Ferrothorn takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone (RC) in return. The aforementioned Fire-types of your own such as Mega Charizard, Volcarona, and Incineroar are also worth noting due to the fact that they help cover the Water-types's weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior, and Tapu Bulu. Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types, beating Rock- and Ground-types including Golem, Donphan, and Carracosta (RC) which together form and completing the infamous well-known Fire / Water / Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert, and Landorus-T are other options for beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat Steel-types such as Magearna and Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. Ferrothorn can deal with Water-types that they struggle to fight against such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados, non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, and Manaphy (RC) in return. Steel-types that take neutral damage from Fighting-type moves such as Magearna, Mega Metagross, and Jirachi are generally very helpful, as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa, and Sawk while Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Ground- and Ghost-types within the tier metagame such as Krookodile and Zygarde-C.

[SET]
name: Grassium Z
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish Nature
evs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Leech Seed is the highest priority move in this set, enabling it enables Ferrothorn to chip threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile, and Donphan to the point where Bloom Doom can clean up Pokemon such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile, and Donphan finish them off. Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorn's main way of dishing out heavy damage, being able to OHKO non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise, and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way to scout for stat-dropping or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or to chip down the foes with Leech Seed to the point where Bloom Doom can pick them off, (AC) foes like such as Twinkle Tackle Magearna, Magnezone, and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorn's offensive capabilities, making it able to beat and Mega Slowbro. Curse is used an option in this set particularly to boost Bloom Doom's damage output and to also increase its already great defensive Defense stat to higher greater heights, allowing it to beat Umbreon and Foul Play Mega Sableye. Iron Defense allows Ferrothorn to enhance its already great bulk, allowing it to and beat physical Dragonite. Protect is another option if you want to outstall Leech Seed turns and scout for Z-Moves from Pokemon like Porygon-Z, Aegislash, and Chansey.

Set Details
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Maximum HP investment and 32 Defense EVs with an Impish nature allows allow Ferrothorn to use Substitute against a Choice Scarf Haxorus's Superpower, as well as maximizing(not really, just boosting?) Ferrothorn's its special bulk as well. Additionally, 224 Attack EVs allow Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after two uses of Superpower and two rounds of Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensuring it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance. Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside the move Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny, while also giving Ferrothorn as well as having a chance of beating Mega Gallade if it uses Close Combat turn one.

Usage Tips
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Use Bloom Doom to break through frail Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Zeraora. Grassium Z does not only contain usage of can be used alongside not only Power Whip but also Z-Leech Seed, (AC) allowing it Ferrothorn to remove negate stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Mega Gyarados-Mega, Magnezone, (AC) and Mega Aggron-Mega; (SC) therefore, deciding which Z-Move (AH) to use will depend on the which Pokemon in which you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately in order to either beat Pokemon that contain either rely on a one-time (AH) nuke such as Twinkle Tackle Magearna and Breakneck Blitz Meloetta or avoiding avoid Scald burns from Mega Slowbro and Suicune. You also shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles from against Pokemon like Type: Null and Mega Latias, as it will which are almost a guaranteed a loss, meaning (not rly seeing the link) you will want to try and whittle whittling down Sturdy Pokemon and use Ferrothorn's stat-boosting moves to its advantage for against Pokemon such as Golem and Mega Tyranitar.

Team Options
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Due to Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt-out to form a Fire / Water / Grass core team, which as Water- and Fire-types both provide have a solid typing synergy with each other Ferrothorn and can deal with opposing Fire- and Steel-types. Water-type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini, and Greninja are good teammates for each other Ferrothorn, as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorn's massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X, and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types that the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Mega Venusaur, Tapu Bulu, and Serperior, (AC) while Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta, and Mega Swampert. Pokemon that can beat Fighting-type Pokemon such as Mega Gardevoir, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated, as they deal with the threatening Pokemon that threaten Ferrothorn such as Sawk, Pheromosa, and Kommo-o, while Ferrothorn can deal with the physical attackers like Mega Pinsir due to its high defensive capabilities being so high. Mega Slowbro, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn, as it is able to deal with both Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, while Ferrothorn is able to deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass-type Pokemon. Ferrothorn is vulnerable to Taunt, so wallbreakers such as Garchomp, Kartana, and Tapu Lele that can deal heavy damage to Taunt users including Mega Mawile, Taunt Mega Sableye, and Mew are very much-appreciated (AH) partners. While the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong, they have trouble dealing with faster foes that Ferrothorn is able to beat such as opposing Mega Lopunny and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z using that has used its stat-boosting moves. Finally, Ferrothorn has a hard time against faster foes such as Tectonic Rage Garchomp, Taunt Mega Aggron, and Aegislash, so having an agile teammate such as Mega Lopunny, Volcarona, or Greninja is very helpful in this aspect. Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Primarina, and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can also be used for extra longevity; however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal that beat many of the prominent threats mentioned in the sets, it struggles to pick the proper moves enabled (if I understood properly?) to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed; (SC) examples include non-Taunt Thundurus-T, Porygon2, and Avalugg.


Checks and Counters
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**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, and Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and in return are able to OHKO it with their respective Fire-type STAB moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective coverage**: Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Scarf Togekiss, Choice Specs Meloetta, and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves to KO it while taking very little or necessary (wrong word choice?) damage from Ferrothorn's STAB moves.

**Fighting-types Pokemon**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o, and Mega Lopunny are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn, as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care very little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either having their access to Sturdy or being able their ability to KO it before it does the same back.

**Taunt**: Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt, because it leaves it unable to recover its HP with Leech Seed, and hence meaning foes are able to stall it much easier due to it no longer having a way to increase its longevity more easily. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, and Deoxys-S are all able to Taunt it Ferrothorn and either PP stall it, use it as setup fodder, or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves, although you should be aware that Z-Confide can temporarily bypass Taunt in certain matchups.

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster recovery moves, it leads it tends to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose, (AC) so beware of Pokemon such as Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana, and Mega Pinsir are all able to use it Ferrothorn as setup fodder and use their respective moves in order to beat it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[Osra, 239997], [Shyom, 469945], [Alakazam, 276708]]
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[OVERVIEW]

Ferrothorn is a prominent force within the 1v1 metagame due to its great mixed bulk in conjunction with its unique typing allowing it to defeat top-tier threats such as Magearna, Porygon-Z, and Tapu Lele. In addition to this, a its wide range of setup moves such as Curse, Iron Defense, and Confide enables it to beat prominent physical and special threats like Porygon-Z, Zeraora, and Magearna. High-power Its high-powered STAB moves such as Power Whip and Gyro Ball further help it to have just a little bit of an offensive presence and to beat Water-types such as Manaphy, Tapu Fini, (remove doublespace)and Primarina, in addition to Fairy-types such as Mega Diancie, Whimsicott, and Tapu Lele. However, Ferrothorn faces stiff competition with other Grass-type Pokemon such as Serperior, Tapu Bulu, and Mega Venusaur, which are all faster and have better recovery moves. Additionally, Ferrothorn has hardly any form of recovery moves outside of Leech Seed, which makes its job of stalling out Pokemon much harder to do, as it gets whittled down very easily. Lastly, a Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire means that top-tier threats such as Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, Dragonite, and Incineroar all have coverage moves to beat it no matter the situation.

[SET]
name: Stall
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Confide
move 3: Curse / Iron Defense
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Normalium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Relaxed Nature
evs: 248 252 HP / 16 Atk / 68 64 Def / 176 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leech Seed is one of Ferrothorn's only ways to regain HP and is key for continuously whittling down foes such as non-Hidden Power Fire Magearna, non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, and Donphan. Confide, when used as a Z-Move, boosts Ferrothorn's Special Defense by one stage and helps neuter special attackers such as Tapu Fini, Magnezone, and Meloetta. Curse enables Ferrothorn to further boost its defensive capabilities in addition to its offensive abilities, helping it deal with foes such as the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Porygon2, and Crustle, (AC) and the aforementioned non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross. Iron Defense, while seeming inferior in the sense of not providing an Attack raise, boosts Ferrothorn's already great physical bulk to transcendent levels, lessening the damage from physical attackers such as Swords Dance Landorus-T and Garchomp Mega Pinsir. (ferrothorn loses to sd lando and garchomp) Gyro Ball is usually Ferrothorn's most powerful STAB move thanks to its exceedingly low Speed and is a reliable way to beat Fairy-types such as Tapu Lele, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Diancie.

Set Details
========

248 252 HP and 176 Special Defense EVs help make Ferrothorn capable of usually beating Magnezone, taking its (remove doublespace)Gigavolt Havoc in conjunction with Metal Sound after using Z-Confide. Furthermore, this investment also almost guarantees that Choice Specs Hidden Power Fire Tapu Lele won't OHKO Ferrothorn. Notably, 16 EVs in Attack ensure that Iron Defense Ferrothorn can beat almost always beat 0 HP EVs Swords Dance + Earthquake Mega Pinsir with Gyro Ball and Iron Defense. The remaining 68 64 EVs are put into Defense, allowing Ferrothorn the chance to beat as many physical threats as possible, most notably neutral-natured non-Swords Dance Landorus-T and Swords Dance Garchomp; however, if you are running Iron Defense, their attacks can still KO Ferrothorn even with the boosts, so be cautious. (ferrothorn loses to sd garchomp) 0 IVs in Speed maximize Gyro Ball's damage output.

Usage Tips
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Leech Seed should in many cases be used almost immediately unless Ferrothorn is up against Taunt-oriented pokemon such as specially defensive Mega Mawile, setup Pokemon such as Mega Pinsir (qc order: tda) or Grass-types such as Tapu Bulu and non-Hidden Power Fire Mega Venusaur, (AC) since Ferrothorn's lack of reliable recovery options can leave it whittled down very easily. Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster Speed tier, it is vulnerable to faster Pokemon, so you generally want to send Ferrothorn against a specially attacking Pokemon special attacker that doesn't have Fire- or Fighting-type coverage, such as Magearna, Tapu Fini, or Primarina. Pokemon such as Mega Blaziken, Heatran, and Mega Lucario should be avoided, as well as PP stalling Pokemon such as Type: Null and Mega Slowbro. In order to beat Magearna, you should first use Z-Confide, (remove doublespace)followed by Leech Seed next turn. Follow this up with more Confide to slowly whittle down Magearna's health while remaining out of range for its Twinkle Tackle, and once its health is low enough, finish it off with Gyro Ball. For simpler Pokemon such as Primarina and Tapu Fini, use Z-Confide and then use Gyro Ball until they are KOed while also avoiding being shut down by Encore from Primarina or Taunt from Tapu Fini. On the other hand, use Curse or Iron Defense to deal with physical attackers such as Zeraora and Mega Tyranitar, as once Ferrothorn is set up, they are unable to do much damage at all to it. Whenever you see Fairy-types or fragile heavy hitters such as Hoopa-U, Mega Diancie, and Tapu Lele, the first thing that should be on your mind is clicking Gyro Ball, allowing Ferrothorn to use its Speed tier to its advantage and Hoopa-U, Ferrothorn should take advantage of its Speed tier by using its strong Gyro Ball. It is also worth mentioning that Leech Seed in conjunction with Gyro Ball is very useful, allowing Ferrothorn to beat Sturdy Pokemon like Donphan and Carracosta as well as specially offensive Pokemon that lack super effective coverage such as non-Choice Specs Meloetta. Using Curse is entirely up to your preference, (remove doublespace)whether it's for types of threats you're are trying to beat within your team or if you want more offensive power to beat more defensive threats such as Porygon2 and Chansey. Curse is especially useful against Porygon2 because it allows itself Ferrothorn to not get PP stalled by Recover while also being able to improve its offensive capabilities in tandem with Gyro Ball. On the other hand, you may want to use Iron Defense if you want to beat more offensive physical threats such as Swords Dance Landorus-T, Mega Pinsir, and Garchomp.

Team Options
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Due to this Ferrothorn set being a defensive staller, offensive teammates such as Dragonite, Landorus-T, and Hoopa-U are all types of Pokemon that you'll want to be by its side (fluff) are beneficial, as they overpower Taunt users such as Mega Aggron, Deoxys-S, (remove doublespace)and Kee Berry Mew, while Ferrothorn can deal with some of 1v1's most metagame-defining threats such as Tapu Lele, Porygon-Z, and Mega Gardevoir. Ferrothorn appreciates Water-type Pokemon such as Tapu Fini, Primarina, and Mega Gyarados, as they take care of the Fire-types that choose to stand in its way such as Mega Charizard, Heatran, and Incineroar. Ferrothorn takes care of the notorious Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone in return. (remove doublespace)Fire-types of your own such as Mega Charizard, Volcarona, and Incineroar are also worth noting because they help cover the Water-types Water-types' weakness to Grass-types such as Mega Venusaur, Serperior, and Tapu Bulu. Ferrothorn is able to synergize perfectly with the Fire-types, beating Rock- and Ground-types including Golem, Donphan, (remove doublespace)and Carracosta and completing the well-known Fire / Water / Grass core. Ground-types such as Garchomp, Mega Swampert, and Landorus-T are other options for beating the previously mentioned Fire-types, in addition to the fact that they can beat Steel-types such as Magearna and Aegislash that Ferrothorn struggles to deal with. Ferrothorn can deal with Water-types that they struggle to fight against such as non-Taunt Mega Gyarados, (remove doublespace)non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, and Manaphy in return. Steel-types that take neutral damage from Fighting-type moves such as Magearna, Mega Metagross, and Jirachi are generally very helpful, (remove doublespace)as they beat Fighting-types such as Mega Lucario, Pheromosa, and Sawk, (AC) while Ferrothorn can deal with the some of the Ground- and Ghost-types in the metagame such as Krookodile and Zygarde-C.

[SET]
name: Grassium Z
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Power Whip
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Swords Dance / Curse / Iron Defense / Protect
item: Grassium Z
ability: Iron Barbs
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 224 Atk / 32 Def


[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Leech Seed enables Ferrothorn to chip threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Mawile, and Donphan to the point where Bloom Doom can finish them off. Bloom Doom is also Ferrothorn's main way of dishing out heavy damage, being able to OHKO non-Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Mega Blastoise, and Primarina. Substitute in tandem with Leech Seed is a great way to scout for stat-dropping or stat-increasing moves such as Metal Sound and Calm Mind or to chip down foes to the point where Bloom Doom can pick them off, such as Twinkle Tackle Magearna, Magnezone, Twinkle Tackle Magearna, and Crustle. Swords Dance is used to further bolster Ferrothorn's offensive capabilities, making it able to beat (remove doublespace)Mega Slowbro. Curse is an option in this set particularly to boost Bloom Doom's damage output and to increase its Ferrothorn's already great Defense stat to greater heights, allowing it to beat Umbreon and Foul Play Mega Sableye. Iron Defense allows Ferrothorn to enhance its already great bulk and beat physical Dragonite. Protect is another option if you want to outstall stall out Leech Seed turns and scout for Z-Moves from Pokemon like Porygon-Z, Aegislash, (RC) and Chansey. (i really highly doubt z chansey exists)

Set Details
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Maximum HP investment and 32 Defense EVs with an Impish nature allow Ferrothorn to use Substitute against Choice Scarf Haxorus's Superpower, as well as boosting its special bulk. Additionally, 224 Attack EVs allow Ferrothorn to OHKO Choice Scarf Haxorus after two uses of Superpower and two rounds of Iron Barbs recoil, as well as ensuring it can OHKO non-Taunt Mega Sableye after a Swords Dance. Alternatively, Ferrothorn can choose to run 252 HP / 144 Atk / 112 Def alongside Protect to always beat Mega Lopunny, as well as having a chance of beating Mega Gallade if it uses Close Combat turn one.

Usage Tips
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Use Bloom Doom to break through frail Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Zeraora. Grassium Z (remove doublespace)can be used alongside not only Power Whip but also Leech Seed, (remove doublespace)allowing Ferrothorn to negate stat-lowering moves such as Metal Sound while also bypassing Taunt, enabling it to beat Mega Gyarados, Magnezone, and Mega Aggron; therefore, deciding which Z-Move to use will depend on which Pokemon you are facing. Substitute is a vital move and should be used almost immediately to either beat Pokemon that rely on a one-time nuke such as Twinkle Tackle Magearna and Breakneck Blitz Meloetta or avoid Scald burns from Mega Slowbro and Suicune. You also shouldn't be using it to fight PP battles against Pokemon like Type: Null and Mega Latias, which are almost a guaranteed loss. It's better to try whittling down Sturdy Pokemon and use Ferrothorn's stat-boosting moves to its advantage against Pokemon such as Golem and Mega Tyranitar.

Team Options
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Due to Ferrothorn's 4x weakness to Fire, you can opt to form a Fire / Water / Grass core team, as Water- and Fire-types both have a solid typing synergy with Ferrothorn and can deal with opposing Fire- and Steel-types. Water-type Pokemon such as Primarina, Tapu Fini, and Greninja are good teammates for Ferrothorn, as Ferrothorn can deal with the Electric-types such as Zeraora and Magnezone while they deal with Ferrothorn's massive weakness to Fire-types. Fire-types such as Incineroar, Mega Charizard X, and Victini can effectively deal with Grass-types that the aforementioned allies struggle to beat such as Mega Venusaur, Tapu Bulu, and Serperior, while Ferrothorn can deal with Rock- and Ground-types such as Golem, Carracosta, and Mega Swampert. Pokemon that can beat Fighting-type Pokemon such as Mega Gardevoir, Primarina, and Magearna are greatly appreciated, as they deal with threatening Pokemon such as Sawk, Pheromosa, and Kommo-o, while Ferrothorn can deal with physical attackers like Mega Pinsir due to its high defensive capabilities. Mega Slowbro, in particular, is an amazing teammate for Ferrothorn, as it can deal with both Fire- and Fighting-type Pokemon, while Ferrothorn can deal with the aforementioned Electric- and Grass-type Pokemon. Ferrothorn is vulnerable to Taunt, so wallbreakers such as Garchomp, Kartana, and Tapu Lele that can deal heavy damage to Taunt users including Mega Mawile, Mega Sableye, and Mew are very much-appreciated partners. While the mentioned wallbreakers are very strong, they have trouble dealing with faster foes that Ferrothorn can beat such as opposing Mega Lopunny (Ferrothorn can beat mega lopunny?) and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z that has used its stat-boosting moves (scarf pz doesn't get stat boosting moves). Finally, Ferrothorn has a hard time against faster foes such as (remove doublespace)Tectonic Rage Garchomp, Taunt Mega Aggron, and Aegislash, so having an agile teammate such as Mega Lopunny, Volcarona, or Greninja is very helpful in this aspect. Ferrothorn can also help deal with their vulnerability to strong heavy-hitters such as non-Hammer Arm Mega Metagross, Primarina, (remove doublespace)and Donphan.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can also be used for extra longevity; however, due to Ferrothorn having so many utility moves at its disposal that beat many prominent threats, it struggles to pick the proper moves to deal with all the threats necessary. Toxic has its benefits in whittling down Pokemon in tandem with Leech Seed; examples include non-Taunt Thundurus-T, Porygon2, and Avalugg.


Checks and Counters
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**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard, Incineroar, and Heatran are all faster than Ferrothorn and can OHKO it with their respective STAB moves.

**Pokemon with Super Effective coverage Coverage**: Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Scarf Togekiss, Hidden Power Fire Greninja, Choice Specs Meloetta, and Genesect are all able to 2HKO or OHKO Ferrothorn using their preferred Fire-type moves while taking very little or significant damage from Ferrothorn's STAB moves.

**Fighting-types**: Common Fighting-types such as Sawk, Kommo-o, and Mega Lopunny are extremely threatening to Ferrothorn, as they are all able to do significant damage to it and care very little about the damage that Ferrothorn does due to either their access to Sturdy or their ability to KO it before it does the same back.

**Taunt**: Ferrothorn is very vulnerable to Taunt because it leaves it unable to recover its HP with Leech Seed, meaning foes can stall it much more easily. Pokemon such as Mew, Mega Mawile, and Deoxys-S are all able to Taunt (remove doublespace)Ferrothorn and either PP stall it, use it as setup fodder, or outright 2HKO it using coverage moves, although you should be aware that Z-Confide can temporarily bypass Taunt in certain matchups.

**Rest**: Due to Ferrothorn's lackluster recovery moves, it tends to be horrible in the Rest PP stall department and will most likely lose, so beware of Pokemon such as Type: Null.

**Hyper Offensive Wallbreakers**: Numerous threats including Aegislash, Kartana, and Mega Pinsir are all able to use Ferrothorn as setup fodder and use their respective moves to beat it.

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- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[Osra, 239997], [Shyom, 469945], [Alakazam, 276708]]
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