Folding and Turning (OU RMT)

[Revolution.Z]

Folding And Turning Intro::

Thank You for coming to My RMT. My First to be precise. I've been juggling with this team for a while on the ladder and came up with a 18-2 success after 20 matches of play. If you hadn't guessed already this Team uses U-Turn as a move to throw opponents off guard and switching into counters for the Standard Metagame.

Changes in Bold

First Glance:

The Team:

Devastating Lead

Pixie (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
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New to my team it fits in awesome with good bulk and incredible typing and a devastating moveset. Trick easily wrecks bulky leads such as Hippowdon, Pert and even Meta(though it does benefit as it can blow up quickly with scarf). The fabled U-Turn on my team is essential as it lets me hit whatever he switches into after he gets stuck on SR or whatever. If i feel like it i can SR when he switches out giving good support wrecking Mence, Nite and Gyara switch ins and breaking Sashes. Generally Iron Head is more flinch late game.
NOTE: I do not use Trick always, I usually U-Turn out on the first move.



Scouting Spy

CrazyApe (Infernape) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SPatk)
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
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U-Turn again for scouting and usually my switch in if my opponent also has a Jirachi Lead as my opponent will not know i also have a . CC, Flare Blitz and SE give good coverage and a surprise to Gyaras and Mence switch ins. CC gives reliable STAB as does Flare Blitz. Nice Revenge killer if they don't see the CS.



Counterable Counter

AquaSpeed (Gyarados) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
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Slightly Bulky gyara. 168 Spd and jolly allows me to outspeed Jolt after a DD a common switch into gyara after seeing my laddering. Sub is unsuspected and blocks status from the Cress and Bliss. I don't use taunt as it doesn't allow me to scout attacks. Waterfall is reliable STAB and the most common attack I use and SE covers other Gyaras and Mences which wreck my attack with Intimidate Shuffling. Jolly was needed as i needed the speed stat and the HP investment and I figured with DD adamant wasn't too necessary, yes call me an idiot lol. The go to guy when those stupid Mences which i saw all too much when i was laddering. Thinking of making it more bulkier for the sub.



Dig Down Deep...

TriTrapper (Dugtrio) (F) @ Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Aerial Ace
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Revenge killer. End of story. Sucker punch wrecks scarfgars who think they can come in a ruin me with more speed. EQ STAB and the thing i use against the Zones if they switch into the U-Turn from my Rachi. Haha being trapped is in my hands now. SE for Mences and Gyaras again and gives nice coverage. Toxic is really the variable move right now anyone got any suggestions?



Bulkiest of the Bulky

DirtShovel (Heatran) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Toxic
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The sub variant. With all the scarfrans running round I thought hmm maybe i could bluff being the same coming in on like a celebi or other thing Ran counters nicely, get the sub on the switch and blast away with Fire blast and Earth power with Toxic breaking down Blisseys forcing them to switch using Natural cure. My really only thing with big bulk my others are relatively bulky but this is the bulkiest. Cofuzzling but useful haha



House Sweeping?

Emperor (Empoleon) (F) @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Surf
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
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The Hidden beast of my team. Wow this thing got moved to BL. Big mistake. My late sweeper or if I can come in on a CB Bullet Punch Scizor its basically Game over. Ruining teams with the Alli on the switch subbing down to my Petya ruining teams with STAB Surf+Petya+Torrent. Thinking of putting Timid to outspeed Scarfgon after an alli. Bliss does wall this set but after the petya I can do a big dent of 40% to the standard bliss. Ice Beam for those pesky resists.


Thank you for looking and rating. Constructive criticism please not full out anger :D A big EQ Weakness I know and im definately thinking of Scarfgon somewhere in there probably over Ran and yes im a guy Indigo just rocks lol

 

[zarator]

I'd suggest Aerial Ace over Toxic on Dugtrio. At least it serves some revenge-killing purpose. It lets you revenge Breloom (who otherwise resist Ground/Rock/Dark) and Heracross (which generally is not KOed by any of Dugtrio's other moves).

Just my 2 cents

 

[Shiawase]

Have you thought of using Grass Knot on Empoleon? It can help you take out things like Suicune and Blissey that otherwise wall it.

 

[Revolution.Z]

Have you thought of using Grass Knot on Empoleon? It can help you take out things like Suicune and Blissey that otherwise wall it.

Nah i Dont see it doing more to bliss than surf and cune is usually taken out earlier pre-game it doesnt function as a late sweeper. And besides i need ice beam on there or Latias walls the set

And thanks i'll think bout aerial ace

 

[MegaKick]

Have you thought of using Grass Knot on Empoleon? It can help you take out things like Suicune and Blissey that otherwise wall it.

My name is latias. Besides, bliss takes more from surf so it's suicune vs. latias, guess which one is more popular?
On topic, I do not see the point of sub, since gyra needs all the coverage it can get. earthquake would probably be a better option

 

[Revolution.Z]

I do not see the point of sub, since gyra needs all the coverage it can get. earthquake would probably be a better option

Sub is there to block status and scout out moves from various walls trying to status me. It also gives me a wall to hide behind if my opponent cant break it as I am thinking of making my gyara much bulkier. Thanks for all the comments btw

 

[MegaKick]

Okay, if it works for you, don't fix what isn't broken I guess

 

[Blue_Tornado]

You need a sponge/tank/wall SOMEWHERE on your team. There are a lot of n00bish teams that have 6 sweepers and no defence at all. My opinion to an offensive team is: at least 1 pokemon that takes attacks from at least one side of the spectrum, with each spectrum covered once, be it 1 Phisical Wall and 1 Special Wall, or 1 sponge for them both (Cressie anyone?).
With no bulk on your team, you'll be losing pokemon fast, and will be doomed against common sweepers. You should fix this problem fast.

 

[Revolution.Z]

Nah thanks. I dont need the wall. With resistences covering all types why need a wall? To allow teams to set up and sweep me? Every wall has a limit and weakness and having one on my team ruins the balance and allows my opponent to set up easily. Resistence is better than having beastly defenses. For example Empoleon. Absolute CB Scizor counter taking BP and X-Scissors easy. Your going into the realms of Balanced Standard teams. Not how mine works and if your calling Offensive teams 'n00bish' then you honestly have to try a decent one

 

[Blue_Tornado]

Nah thanks. I dont need the wall. With resistences covering all types why need a wall? To allow teams to set up and sweep me? Every wall has a limit and weakness and having one on my team ruins the balance and allows my opponent to set up easily. Resistence is better than having beastly defenses. For example Empoleon. Absolute CB Scizor counter taking BP and X-Scissors easy. Your going into the realms of Balanced Standard teams. Not how mine works and if your calling Offensive teams 'n00bish' then you honestly have to try a decent one

But you need to have a pokemon to fall back on when you need one. So, instead of sacrificing a pokemon to bring in a counter, a sponge is recommended, but if you don't want one, it's your choice...
BTW, I didn't call your team 'n00bish', I'm just saying that there are a lot of people who just throw some sweepers toghether to form a team, with no strategy behind it.

 

[Lorerer]

You need a sponge/tank/wall SOMEWHERE on your team. There are a lot of n00bish teams that have 6 sweepers and no defence at all. My opinion to an offensive team is: at least 1 pokemon that takes attacks from at least one side of the spectrum, with each spectrum covered once, be it 1 Phisical Wall and 1 Special Wall, or 1 sponge for them both (Cressie anyone?).
With no bulk on your team, you'll be losing pokemon fast, and will be doomed against common sweepers. You should fix this problem fast.

Mmmm, wait?
Please, don't talk about something that you don't know anything of, it looks like you just do posts to increase that post number lol. There have been a lot of teams (in fact, they're actually to) that reside on pure offense. Is a play style called Frail Offense. The team you're talking about (4 sweepers, 2 walls) is more noobish than a offense team, I'm sorry. You can search exemples of this on the RMT Archive, I'm sure that you will find some of them. So, please, informate before posting.

 

[Kurnak]

Why in the world do you have Rash (+SpA -SpD) in stead of Modest (+SpA -Atk) when you don't even run any Physical moves?

 

[Revolution.Z]

Haha Kurnak reason behind that. I used to run a mixed experiment run before this one so i probably forgot to change the nature and I see that after I exported the text im going to change that now thanks! Oh i ran a mixed one because of too many blisseys running round in the past

 

[Blue_Tornado]

Mmmm, wait?
Please, don't talk about something that you don't know anything of, it looks like you just do posts to increase that post number lol. There have been a lot of teams (in fact, they're actually to) that reside on pure offense. Is a play style called Frail Offense. The team you're talking about (4 sweepers, 2 walls) is more noobish than a offense team, I'm sorry. You can search exemples of this on the RMT Archive, I'm sure that you will find some of them. So, please, informate before posting.

Sure, you can run a pure offensive team, but I talked about my opinion. If you think its wrong, well thats your opinion too. I didn't say my strategy was a must, but through my experience, it works pretty well. We can argue about what the other thinks all day long, or just leave it aside or try to offer a better opinion, while explaining why it is better...
So generally: why is a 4:2 team more 'n00bish' than a 6 sweeper team? It really depends on the team. On my opinion, this team needs some bulk somewhere, but if you all want it that way, then go for it. it's just an opinion.
Sorry for making a big mess out of that ;)