I boldly predicted him to get a podium with Haas this year and I really hope he manages to pull it off this race.
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What a beautiful season, almost everything I could’ve hoped for. Congrats to McLaren, first time 26 years, literally longer than half the drivers on the grid next year have been alive. Also congrats to Bortoleto for going back to back in F3 and F2, really interested to see him drive next year. Race was wild, so many good and heartbreaking performances, but the teaser trailer for Lewis and Charles is sick. Bummed for Haas but Gasly was absolutely on fire to end the year, really want to do a proper driver ranking a bit later on.
Also thank you to everyone who participates in this tiny F1 sub-community on the competitive Pokemon forum. I started this thread on a whim one weekend and a year and a half later it still sees activity every race weekend, thank you.
Also thank you to everyone who participates in this tiny F1 sub-community on the competitive Pokemon forum. I started this thread on a whim one weekend and a year and a half later it still sees activity every race weekend, thank you.
My (probably biased) 2024 driver tier list
https://tiermaker.com/create/f1-2024-year-end-driver-ranking-15880508 template
https://tiermaker.com/create/f1-2024-year-end-driver-ranking-15880508 template
If Liam Lawson gets the call-up to replace Checo I think we can safely say that we're back to business as usual with the second-seat curse. Dude is not ready and I hate that the most reputable sources point to him
I mean whats the point of putting a guy who’s already pretty much at his ceiling imo (Yuki) in there if he’ll have to leave after a season? Better to have someone young in there with room for growth, since they didn’t grab Sainz when they could.
Aaaaaand RIP to Liam having a normal, healthy career progression
Hard to call a driver “capped” when they’ve spent all their time in a dead-end team and continues to improve year-on-year without exception so far
Hard to call a driver “capped” when they’ve spent all their time in a dead-end team and continues to improve year-on-year without exception so far
I didn’t think there was any improvement from last year tbh. The car was better relatively for much of the season. Not to say he didn’t have a good season, ofc he did. I don’t see that much more potential for growth personally but that’s just me. I could be completely wrong.
Can we have Oscar Piastri be in his own tier slightly below Max?
no, move everyone else except sainz down a tier instead
Miami really delivered this year; chaotic sprint, Max masterclass pole, decent race, quality battles at the front, Williams heroics, elite Lewis radio, Ferrari strategy and Lando lap 1 living up to memes.
Anyway, get Doohan and Lawson out of F1. Jack is out of his depth, while Liam is a menace as a Temu version of Max; he just tries to get ahead at the apex and make the other driver deal with it.
Anyway, get Doohan and Lawson out of F1. Jack is out of his depth, while Liam is a menace as a Temu version of Max; he just tries to get ahead at the apex and make the other driver deal with it.
I was expecting a relatively dull race today at Imola, but it was a great GP : very entertaining throughout, and interesting strategy calls as well. Some quick thoughts about the race :
Since I set my expectations too low for Imola, maybe the Monaco GP will be fun as well this year, considering it'll be a compulsory two-stop race? I'm also half-expecting Max to pull off a miraculous Q3 lap for pole position like he did in 2023, that would be pretty wild.
- Max's overtake on Oscar in turn 1, when he was himself under fire from George, was absolutely insane. Oscar was too focused on defending from George and should've covered the outside line more, but I have to admit it wasn't the easiest situation to try and defend from two cars at once.
Still, my gosh was Max brave to go for that move with so much in the balance in terms of the championship, especially if it had gone awry. One of the greatest overtakes of the last ten seasons or so.
- I reckon Ferrari did a good job recovering from their very poor quali thanks to their strategy calls. Going for an aggressive undercut with Charles early on to try to break the DRS train ahead, and forcing a pit-stop dilemma onto their rivals, is just the kind of decisive call they've had trouble making in recent times.
They'll be happy with P4 and P6 for their efforts today but obviously, they have to get on top of the car's issues now.
- Great drive by Alex in the Williams to finish P5, he's been performing really well lately and today was another impressive display. He was very close to a podium today, and had Charles left him an actual car's width when he went for that overtake near the end, he could've gotten P4.
To think Williams are starting to regularly compete for high points-paying positions again ; I hope they continue to improve like they've been doing with James Vowles at the helm.
Still, my gosh was Max brave to go for that move with so much in the balance in terms of the championship, especially if it had gone awry. One of the greatest overtakes of the last ten seasons or so.
- I reckon Ferrari did a good job recovering from their very poor quali thanks to their strategy calls. Going for an aggressive undercut with Charles early on to try to break the DRS train ahead, and forcing a pit-stop dilemma onto their rivals, is just the kind of decisive call they've had trouble making in recent times.
They'll be happy with P4 and P6 for their efforts today but obviously, they have to get on top of the car's issues now.
- Great drive by Alex in the Williams to finish P5, he's been performing really well lately and today was another impressive display. He was very close to a podium today, and had Charles left him an actual car's width when he went for that overtake near the end, he could've gotten P4.
To think Williams are starting to regularly compete for high points-paying positions again ; I hope they continue to improve like they've been doing with James Vowles at the helm.
Since I set my expectations too low for Imola, maybe the Monaco GP will be fun as well this year, considering it'll be a compulsory two-stop race? I'm also half-expecting Max to pull off a miraculous Q3 lap for pole position like he did in 2023, that would be pretty wild.
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You forgot to put Alonso in one of the rookie tiers
lol
Alonso gets ruled out due to an undiagnosed problem with his left leg that doctors say make him unfit to race, AM will field 0 cars come race day.
How about a good old-fashioned tire failure? Shoutout to Lewis Hamilton in 2010
Two whole points on the road wooo no bad luck for my GOAT this time
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Extremely popular driver
Championship battle
Will probably yell at the stewards
11 penalty points with two set to expire soon
I think this is the perfect time for Max to really test the limits. Starting P2 on the grid? Just take out the driver on pole. Don’t feel like driving that one corner? Just make your own track for the day. Pit lane speed limit? Literally who cares.
A potentially already pissed off Verstappen could be given the loosest leash wish we’ve seen from the stewards. Like surely they will find every way to just not make any decision until those points expire right?
(Also remember when penalties were given regardless of outcome? Absolutely insane to me these past few races to have multiple investigations end because it didn’t effect other drivers races, when did this happen?)
Championship battle
Will probably yell at the stewards
11 penalty points with two set to expire soon
I think this is the perfect time for Max to really test the limits. Starting P2 on the grid? Just take out the driver on pole. Don’t feel like driving that one corner? Just make your own track for the day. Pit lane speed limit? Literally who cares.
A potentially already pissed off Verstappen could be given the loosest leash wish we’ve seen from the stewards. Like surely they will find every way to just not make any decision until those points expire right?
(Also remember when penalties were given regardless of outcome? Absolutely insane to me these past few races to have multiple investigations end because it didn’t effect other drivers races, when did this happen?)
I am choosing to believe that Mercedes' new suspension upgrades will actually give them consistent pace... if George can put in a couple more performances like that, he'll be a more viable title rival than either Max or Lando. Rooting for him to have the breakout year he needs to avoid getting shuffled out by the new generation of rookies like Antonelli (and also Max if his rumors are true).
I hope Lawson's put out of his misery in short order now that Lindblad has his super license. Revolving-door seats suck, but the only way to stop it is to find someone who actually belongs in that seat.
I hope Lawson's put out of his misery in short order now that Lindblad has his super license. Revolving-door seats suck, but the only way to stop it is to find someone who actually belongs in that seat.