Fuck Names, its a Pokemon team for god's sake.

So yeah, my first RMT on Smogon. This team was originally built around a Mixrachi, but evolved into my most successful OU team ever. It peaked 1440 CRE (That's pretty high for me).

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Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam

Standard pert lead, sets up rocks and roars away to scout teams. I usually am able to set up rocks and scout a large proprtion of my opponent's team before it dies.

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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Quick Attack

The number one most used Pokemon, Scizor. Makes an excellent revenge killer. I replaced pursuit with quick attack to revenge Garyados and Ape who can cause big troubles for my team.
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Salamence (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 Spd / 240 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Mence. Deals with stall like a champ. Works VERY well with Jirachi. Takes fire and ground attacks aimed at rachi like a pro. Once he's in, my opponents will have one helluva time trying to switch in to him. =) Sad that this thing might go uber soon, although IMO it doesn't really deserve it.

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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 200 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Cleric. Without this thing, I have some big Starmie and status problems. Paralysis support can be useful for my team to take out things like Infernape which otherwise wrecks my team.

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Jirachi @ Expert Belt
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 200 Atk / 252 Spd / 56 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Iron Head
- Fire Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot

The star of the team. Pun intended. This thing is amazing, it takes out like 3 pokes every game. It has great coverage with Salamence, and is a monster paired with it

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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Late game cleaner after mence and Jirachi wrecks enough things. I love this thing, I have yet to see this thing get ohko'd by anything not named shaymin and Celebi. This is also my best answer to infernape, which is sad really. This used to be latias before she got move to ubers, but Suicune does the job well too.
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So there it is, my unnamed Pokemon team. I am willing to make changes and take suggestions. Especially take not that my team has a Pretty bad mixape weakness. Have fun rating!
 
So yeah, my first RMT on Smogon. This team was originally built around a Mixrachi, but evolved into my most successful OU team ever. It peaked 1440 CRE (That's pretty high for me).

260.png

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam

Standard pert lead, sets up rocks and roars away to scout teams. I usually am able to set up rocks and scout a large proprtion of my opponent's team before it dies.

Your lead looks pretty solid. The same one i use and if you use it right it can really screw your opponent over. You could always change Roar for Protect. That helps with surviving longer with leftovers building up more health.


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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Quick Attack

The number one most used Pokemon, Scizor. Makes an excellent revenge killer. I replaced pursuit with quick attack to revenge Garyados and Ape who can cause big troubles for my team.

I'm not a fan of the CBScizor. I've used it and i really don't like being locked in with him. I have found that there are too many pokes that can switch in on his somewhat limited moveset. And i would put pursuit back in instead of Quick Attack. They have the same base damage, but quick attack has more resistants then Pursuit plus Pursuit has super effective hits on quite a few pokes in the OU metagame.
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Salamence (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 Spd / 240 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Mence. Deals with stall like a champ. Works VERY well with Jirachi. Takes fire and ground attacks aimed at rachi like a pro. Once he's in, my opponents will have one helluva time trying to switch in to him. =) Sad that this thing might go uber soon, although IMO it doesn't really deserve it.

I'm not a big fan of the MixMence either. I really like the CBMence instead, so you might wanna try that guy out instead, but if you insist on the MixMence, then this set should work pretty well.
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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 200 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Cleric. Without this thing, I have some big Starmie and status problems. Paralysis support can be useful for my team to take out things like Infernape which otherwise wrecks my team.

Ok so for Blissey i would rather run Heal Bell/Sub/Protect over Aromatherapy. Seismic Toss might wanna be switched out for Flamethrower so you're not walled by steals. But that's up to you. Thunderwave might also wanna be relaced with Toxic. This set will work quite well, but there are other options that have the potential to work BETTER.

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Jirachi @ Expert Belt
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 200 Atk / 252 Spd / 56 SAtk
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Iron Head
- Fire Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot

The star of the team. Pun intended. This thing is amazing, it takes out like 3 pokes every game. It has great coverage with Salamence, and is a monster paired with it

Not my favorite Rachi set but it could possibly work. But i think a more bulky version would work better. Maybe this one?:

Jirachi@ Leftovers
Jolly
EVs 164 HP / 168 Atk / 176 Spe
~ Substitute
~ Thunder Wave / Body Slam
~ Iron Head
~ Fire Punch

I would probably switch out TWave/Body Slam for U-Turn. But that's your call.

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Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Late game cleaner after mence and Jirachi wrecks enough things. I love this thing, I have yet to see this thing get ohko'd by anything not named shaymin and Celebi. This is also my best answer to infernape, which is sad really. This used to be latias before she got move to ubers, but Suicune does the job well too.

Finally someone who has a bulky stallish cune! This things are tanks, but I like a different moveset instead. Like this:
~Toxic
~Sub
~Surf
~HP Electric/Ice Beam/Roar

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So there it is, my unnamed Pokemon team. I am willing to make changes and take suggestions. Especially take not that my team has a Pretty bad mixape weakness. Have fun rating!
 
> Your lead looks pretty solid. The same one i use and if you use it right it can really screw your opponent over. You could always change Roar for Protect. That helps with surviving longer with leftovers building up more health

Roar, as I have explained s for scouting puroses, and this thing is just for setting up rocks.

>I'm not a fan of the CBScizor. I've used it and i really don't like being locked in with him. I have found that there are too many pokes that can switch in on his somewhat limited moveset. And i would put pursuit back in instead of Quick Attack. They have the same base damage, but quick attack has more resistants then Pursuit plus Pursuit has super effective hits on quite a few pokes in the OU metagame.

Quick attack is for revenging ape and gyra, and therefore coverag does't matter. Tha and the things pursuit takes out an be take care of by the rest of my team.

>I'm not a big fan of the MixMence either. I really like the CBMence instead, so you might wanna try that guy out instead, but if you insist on the MixMence, then this set should work pretty well.

I have a banded scizr already. Care to elaborate on how CBMence is better?

>Ok so for Blissey i would rather run Heal Bell/Sub/Protect over Aromatherapy. Seismic Toss might wanna be switched out for Flamethrower so you're not walled by steals. But that's up to you. Thunderwave might also wanna be relaced with Toxic. This set will work quite well, but there are other options that have the potential to work BETTER.

heal bell does the same thing as aromatherapy. Care to elaborate on sub/protect? How does seismic toss make me walled by steels? Paralysis support is much more liked by my team to catch things like ape on the switch.

>Not my favorite Rachi set but it could possibly work. But i think a more bulky version would work better. Maybe this one?:

Jirachi@ Leftovers
Jolly
EVs 164 HP / 168 Atk / 176 Spe
~ Substitute
~ Thunder Wave / Body Slam
~ Iron Head
~ Fire Punch

I would probably switch out TWave/Body Slam for U-Turn. But that's your call.


I think you completly missed the point of my rachi. It is its surprise factor that makes it effective. Again, elaborate on why a bulkier spread will be better please.

>Finally someone who has a bulky stallish cune! This things are tanks, but I like a different moveset instead. Like this:
~Toxic
~Sub
~Surf
~HP Electric/Ice Beam/Roar
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It seems that once again you missed the point. This suicune is a late game SWEEPER. Just because that set is the same pokemon, doesn't mean it does the SAME things.

I appreciate your rating, but it seems you are just suggesting sets that you like more, and completly ignoring what each pokemon is meant to do.
 
Agreeing with Smith on the utter idiocy of chaosyn.

I am not a fan of the New Mixmence set. The best wallbreakers are the ones who can come back and be utter nightmares for the opposition in my opinion after they've broken down stuff, to actually sweep in instances. Therefore, exchange Outrage for Roost, which makes the set what I dub the "Fused Mixmence" that combines the longetivity of the Old and the pure power and coverage of the New.

Can I say this- Scarftar can be a nightmare. Once the opponent realizes that your Jirachi is not Scarfed and is instead an Expert Belt variant, any Scarftar with Earthquake can take you out (Assuming that your Jirachi is around 60% healthy). I'm not sure if it can take out Blissey without having Superpower, but Scizor just happens to be Tyranitar's top teammate, and both have the quality of being walled by the same Pokemon- Gliscor. Sure, Swampert also does this admirably well, but U-turn viciously dents it.

So I would change Swampert into Gliscor as a lead. This is to be a bit more insured against enemy Tyranitar and any non-HP Ice Jolteon. You won't lose to Roserade leads anymore or Celebi leads, which to me is a big plus, but you decide.
 
Gliscor has always been a lead I've wanted to try, so yeah, I'll put it on and see how it does. Thanks. Also with the scarftar earthquake thing, most of the time, its pretty obvious, so Mence can usually switch in, and if its stuck on earthquake, cune can set up. And seeing how scizor can revenge it, I don't see how its much of a threat to anything but blissey and Jirachi. >.>
 
This is a pretty cool team. Blissey is out of place on an offensive team. You say without her you have a weakness to status and starmie. So id test out a specialy defensive lanturn over suicune, and a rest talk rotom over blissey. Lanturn can handle starmie while rotom can absorb status for you while also countering gyrados. Mixape hurts this team pretty badly and you hate choice sweepers so you could try a sd lucario over scizor to help revenge kill ape. Now the only thing i can see that threatens this new team is sub gengar but all of your members can stop it from subbing and he cant 1hko 3 *possibly 4 if mence survives* of your members so you should be able to beat it with a sacrifice. Also im not a fan of a swampert lead because he lets stall spikestack on him. So test a heatran over him. To sum it up:

~rest talk rotom over blissey
~sd luke over scizor
~lanturn over suicune
~heatran over swampert
 
@chaosyn, your rate is extremely preducial, and not at all helpful in rating this team. You do realise that 58% of Scizor's run CB [so its kind of popular >.>], and the LO MixMence set is actually the main reason Mence is being tested for Ubers, unless you can justify why you dislike them and would rather another set over them, don't bother with the rate. Each change/suggestion you make should be justfied.

On to the rate, your team is incredibly weak to Infernape, as you pointed out. With this in mind, I would change Jirachi, as I will be honest, with MixMence there, you don't need Jirachi as a Mixed Sweeper, and would benefit from a pure Special Sweeper, that is not only fast, but also able to take on Mixape, or at least switch into most of his attacks. So I recommend a Starmie. You really can run almost any Timid Starmie set you want, although I doubt you need Rapid Spin, simply because you have one weakness to SR, and everything can handle Toxic Spikes [Natural Curex2 with Starmie/Blissey, Rest Suicune, Steel Scizor, Swampert is usually dead :S], but its an option nonetheless. I am saying this because MixMence and Scizor are a great offensive core, and I am unsure as to whether or not you need more offensive power.

Doesn't look like much else can beat this team :(
 
Starmie sounds like a VERY good replacement. I'm just kinda reluctant to change it since as I mentioned, I first built my team around her. But nevertheless I will try Starmie in the place.
 
I just can't understand your EV spread on blissey, you get 77 def and 356sdef with it, while a calm one with 184 defEVs and 72sdefEVs gets 102 def and 356sdef, you might want to check that. Nice team BTW!
 
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