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Pet Mod Fusion Evolution Under Used (Conclusion | Fully Playable! | Please read posts #1, #3 and #4 | Not open for submissions!)
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT. COUNCIL IS BLIND AND DID NOT SEE DURALUFINI. DURALUFINI IS VETOED BECAUSE ITS ABILITY IS WEIRDLY STRETCHY AND VERY DIFFICULT TO CODE (NO PRECEDENT IN MOVES THAT CAN EITHER TARGET USER OR OPPONENT). IF YOU HAVE VOTED FOR DURALUFINI YOU ARE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION YOU ARE ASKED TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO ANOTHER FUSION OR ELSE THAT VOTE WILL NOT COUNT.
TAGGING zxgzxg, Ema Skye, AND Not_Shiva BECAUSE THEY HAVE VOTED FOR DURALUFINI.
TAGGING zxgzxg, Ema Skye, AND Not_Shiva BECAUSE THEY HAVE VOTED FOR DURALUFINI.
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Note: This vote count is counted at 12.45 PM UTC +7
Due to some time constraints on my end, we'll have to close Voting Phase a bit earlier than promised. Sorry for the inconvinience.
Tiebreaker Votes:
And with that, our winners!
MELOSLASH
100 / 63 / 108 / 109 / 134 / 75
Battle Theme - Before using a move with a secondary effect, changes to Ranged Form. Before using a move without a secondary effect, changes to Melee Form.
MELOSLASH-MELEE
100 / 109 / 75 / 63 / 108 / 134
Battle Theme
TORNACHAMP
94 / 125 / 87 / 100 / 90 / 85
Not Funny - Effects of No Guard and Prankster.
COFAZOR
65 / 90 / 125 / 88 / 95 / 67
Teaching Tech - Moves with 60 or less bp have 1.5x power. If this pokemon damages another with a move with 60 or less bp, the target's ability's is replaced with Teaching Tech.
COFAZOR-MEGA
65 / 110 / 165 / 98 / 115 / 77
Technician
TALONSYL
86 / 93 / 70 / 93 / 99 / 110
Aerilate - User's Normal-Type moves become Flyng-Type and have 1.2x power.
HEATKI
90 / 85 / 101 / 120 / 101 / 77
Flashy Jokes - Effects of Flash Fire and Prankster.
Notes:
- Relic Song causes Meloslash to transform.
- King's Shield reverts Meloslash to Ranged Form.
- Teaching Tech takes the move's original Base Power into consideration when attempting to replace a foe's ability.
Council has also decided to give some changes to two fusions.
The first of them is
Maroligatr-Alola. Back when it was submited to FEOU, its ability did not specify whether or not it should ignore Life Orb recoil when using a move with secondary effect, and as such when it dropped to UU and got coded, it ended up not negating Life Orb. Council has decided that despite the original submission's unclearness, it would be more consistent for it to ignore Life Orb recoil when using a move with a secondary effect.
The second is
Frozerade. Council has noted it has been rather underwhelming, and as such, decided to grant it with a change in typing, being altered from
to
. This should allow it to abuse Cursed Tech + Frost Breath a lot better and thus have a boost in viability.
And that is all for this slate! Council has been discussing the veto process as of recent concerns being brought up. We will keep you informed whenever we come into more conclusions. We are also aiming to scrutnize subs more closely so last minute vetoes and veto rollbacks won't happen as often.
For now, enjoy your Discussion Phase!
Tiebreaker Votes:
And with that, our winners!
MELOSLASH
100 / 63 / 108 / 109 / 134 / 75
Battle Theme - Before using a move with a secondary effect, changes to Ranged Form. Before using a move without a secondary effect, changes to Melee Form.
MELOSLASH-MELEE
100 / 109 / 75 / 63 / 108 / 134
Battle Theme
TORNACHAMP
94 / 125 / 87 / 100 / 90 / 85
Not Funny - Effects of No Guard and Prankster.
COFAZOR
65 / 90 / 125 / 88 / 95 / 67
Teaching Tech - Moves with 60 or less bp have 1.5x power. If this pokemon damages another with a move with 60 or less bp, the target's ability's is replaced with Teaching Tech.
COFAZOR-MEGA
65 / 110 / 165 / 98 / 115 / 77
Technician
TALONSYL
86 / 93 / 70 / 93 / 99 / 110
Aerilate - User's Normal-Type moves become Flyng-Type and have 1.2x power.
HEATKI
90 / 85 / 101 / 120 / 101 / 77
Flashy Jokes - Effects of Flash Fire and Prankster.
Notes:
- Relic Song causes Meloslash to transform.
- King's Shield reverts Meloslash to Ranged Form.
- Teaching Tech takes the move's original Base Power into consideration when attempting to replace a foe's ability.
Council has also decided to give some changes to two fusions.
The first of them is
The second is
And that is all for this slate! Council has been discussing the veto process as of recent concerns being brought up. We will keep you informed whenever we come into more conclusions. We are also aiming to scrutnize subs more closely so last minute vetoes and veto rollbacks won't happen as often.
For now, enjoy your Discussion Phase!
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meloslash: seems underwhelming. melee form is fast but not very powerful, ranged form is bulky but not very powerful either. also the movepool kinda sucks lol
Meloslash @ Choice Band / Black Belt?
Ability: battletheme
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- U-turn / Facade??
- Drain Punch? Stone Edge? Swords Dance??
Meloslash @ Leftovers
Ability: battletheme
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind
- Relic Song?
tornachamp: the offensive typing is cool but im not sure how well this performs as a stallbreaker
Tornachamp @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Ability: notfunny
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Naive Nature
- Focus Blast / Dynamic Punch
- Hurricane
- Knock Off / Fire Blast / Earthquake?
- U-turn
Tornachamp @ Leftovers
Ability: notfunny
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Naive Nature
- Focus Blast / Dynamic Punch
- Hurricane
- Knock Off / Earthquake / Fire Blast
- Taunt / Nasty Plot
cofazor: p cool, might even be too much but i might just be overestimating ghost/steel + wow + recovery
Cofazor @ Leftovers / Scizorite
Ability: teachingtech
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Poltergeist / U-Turn / Knock Off / Superpower?
- Will-O-Wisp / Swords Dance
talonsyl: weird. not sure how this fits in the meta.
Talonsyl @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Aerilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Play Rough
- Double-Edge / Body Slam
- Flare Blitz
- Swords Dance
Talonsyl @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Ability: Aerilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Play Rough
- Double-Edge / Body Slam
- Flare Blitz
- U-Turn
heatki: THE heatran. probably gonna make glidol even better lol
Heatki @ Leftovers
Ability: flashyjokes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm / Lava Plume
- Earth Power / Stealth Rock / Spikes
- Taunt / Stealth Rock / Spikes / Protect
- Toxic
Heatki @ Leftovers
Ability: flashyjokes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt / Flash Cannon
- Toxic / Stealth Rock / Spikes
bufffs:
maroligatr: good change, hard for a stallbreaker to stallbreak when its constantly taking chip damage
frozerade: good change, i didnt realize froslass got thunderbolt so it seems really poggers cause that hits ferros and toxalure and volquag. nice
Meloslash @ Choice Band / Black Belt?
Ability: battletheme
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- U-turn / Facade??
- Drain Punch? Stone Edge? Swords Dance??
Meloslash @ Leftovers
Ability: battletheme
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind
- Relic Song?
tornachamp: the offensive typing is cool but im not sure how well this performs as a stallbreaker
Tornachamp @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Ability: notfunny
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Naive Nature
- Focus Blast / Dynamic Punch
- Hurricane
- Knock Off / Fire Blast / Earthquake?
- U-turn
Tornachamp @ Leftovers
Ability: notfunny
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Naive Nature
- Focus Blast / Dynamic Punch
- Hurricane
- Knock Off / Earthquake / Fire Blast
- Taunt / Nasty Plot
cofazor: p cool, might even be too much but i might just be overestimating ghost/steel + wow + recovery
Cofazor @ Leftovers / Scizorite
Ability: teachingtech
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Poltergeist / U-Turn / Knock Off / Superpower?
- Will-O-Wisp / Swords Dance
talonsyl: weird. not sure how this fits in the meta.
Talonsyl @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Aerilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Play Rough
- Double-Edge / Body Slam
- Flare Blitz
- Swords Dance
Talonsyl @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Ability: Aerilate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Play Rough
- Double-Edge / Body Slam
- Flare Blitz
- U-Turn
heatki: THE heatran. probably gonna make glidol even better lol
Heatki @ Leftovers
Ability: flashyjokes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm / Lava Plume
- Earth Power / Stealth Rock / Spikes
- Taunt / Stealth Rock / Spikes / Protect
- Toxic
Heatki @ Leftovers
Ability: flashyjokes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt / Flash Cannon
- Toxic / Stealth Rock / Spikes
bufffs:
maroligatr: good change, hard for a stallbreaker to stallbreak when its constantly taking chip damage
frozerade: good change, i didnt realize froslass got thunderbolt so it seems really poggers cause that hits ferros and toxalure and volquag. nice
Meloslash-Melee looks pretty fun. Use the bulk in ranged form to set up an SD, then enjoy your awesome speed tier as you click CC.
We also got better Heatran. I guess it makes sense since we already got better Gliscor.
Cofazor seems hype. Bullet Punch to remove abilities is going to be some cool tech. Glad it made it in this time.
Not really interested in the rest.
We also got better Heatran. I guess it makes sense since we already got better Gliscor.
Cofazor seems hype. Bullet Punch to remove abilities is going to be some cool tech. Glad it made it in this time.
Not really interested in the rest.
About 1 hour from now (6 PM CST) I will be hosting the first FEUU tour night! Come on over to Dragon Heaven to compete and give us some valuable data for future balance efforts.
(pls save all replays and send them to me)
(pls save all replays and send them to me)
and it's time for my one-liner opinions:
a lot of people are gonna run defensive sets with this aren't they
normal-fighting is a bit of a weird typing oofers
funny ability name, haha
oh, no, not again.
JESUS CHRIST, 165 BASE DEFENSE?!
just a meh mon
dude we already have a prankster winner, who invited him?
changes:
Maroligatr-Alola - huh. crap.
Frozerade - ok now i'm wondering if anyone's gonna submit a future sight slate (for example, me if i get the chance)
a lot of people are gonna run defensive sets with this aren't they
normal-fighting is a bit of a weird typing oofers
funny ability name, haha
oh, no, not again.
JESUS CHRIST, 165 BASE DEFENSE?!
just a meh mon
dude we already have a prankster winner, who invited him?
changes:
Maroligatr-Alola - huh. crap.
Frozerade - ok now i'm wondering if anyone's gonna submit a future sight slate (for example, me if i get the chance)
Tell me if I'm doing this right.
Fusion: Munchozma-Eclipse-Belly
Role: Wallbreaker, Semi-Wall
Type:
Ability: Prismatic Fat - This Pokemon takes 50% damage from super-effective attacks.
Stat Distribution: 116/121/83/76/97/41
Relevant Moves: Sunsteel Strike, Body Slam, Toxic, Moonlight/Morning Sun, Stealth Rock, Dragon Dance, Stealth Rock
But wait... There's more!
Fusion: Munchozma-Ultrafat
Role:Wallbreaker Ultimate Slayer of Walls
Type:
Stat Distribution: 116/131/67/131/67/93
Justification: Eclipse is simple really, a wall and wallbreaker that packs a punch, and can also set up on idle pokemon. But when you have enough boosts, you activate your secret weapon... ULTRAFAT! And then you slaughter the opponent.
Fusion: Munchozma-Eclipse-Belly
Role: Wallbreaker, Semi-Wall
Type:
Ability: Prismatic Fat - This Pokemon takes 50% damage from super-effective attacks.
Stat Distribution: 116/121/83/76/97/41
Relevant Moves: Sunsteel Strike, Body Slam, Toxic, Moonlight/Morning Sun, Stealth Rock, Dragon Dance, Stealth Rock
But wait... There's more!
Fusion: Munchozma-Ultrafat
Role:
Type:
Stat Distribution: 116/131/67/131/67/93
Justification: Eclipse is simple really, a wall and wallbreaker that packs a punch, and can also set up on idle pokemon. But when you have enough boosts, you activate your secret weapon... ULTRAFAT! And then you slaughter the opponent.
we are not accepting submissions at this time; currently we are playtesting to evaluate which mons need buffs and which need nerfs. if you want to be a part of this join the discord and there will be announcements of when roomtours are happeningTell me if I'm doing this right.
Fusion: Munchozma-Eclipse-Belly
Role: Wallbreaker, Semi-Wall
Type:
Ability: Prismatic Fat - This Pokemon takes 50% damage from super-effective attacks.
Stat Distribution: 116/121/83/76/97/41
Relevant Moves: Sunsteel Strike, Body Slam, Toxic, Moonlight/Morning Sun, Stealth Rock, Dragon Dance, Stealth Rock
But wait... There's more!
Fusion: Munchozma-Ultrafat
Role:WallbreakerUltimate Slayer of Walls
Type:
Stat Distribution: 116/131/67/131/67/93
Justification: Eclipse is simple really, a wall and wallbreaker that packs a punch, and can also set up on idle pokemon. But when you have enough boosts, you activate your secret weapon... ULTRAFAT! And then you slaughter the opponent.
What are you trying to do here? A Steelix/Chansey Fusion? Submissions are now close and we need stats, names, abilities. Maybe you could come to our Discord to talk about it.
Listen buddy I don't know what you're trying to do here but submissions are currently closed, and I'd appreciate it if you don't clog the thread up with this stuff. If you want to get into the mod I suggest you at least read the rules as well as posts 3 and 4. That being said...
TO ANYONE ELSE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY PLEASE DO NOT MINIMOD AND ADD ONE LINERS TO THIS THREAD IT JUST CLOGS IT UP EVEN MORE, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM PLEASE LET ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW!
ALSO IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO MAKE A ONE LINER QUIP OVER SOME NEWBIE'S BLUNDER, DON'T! NO ONE CARES THAT YOU FOUND IT FUNNY AND DOING SO WILL ONLY LEAD TO A MORE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT FOR NEWBIES TO ENTER.
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