Holy balls... The battle music sounds AMAZING. What an awesome remix of the traditional battle music! There are hints of several others in there too, with the chimey bells and horns!
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Gen VII: Pokémon Sun and Moon (New info Post #5834)
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It would make sense if the forms are progressively better at activating the "super ability":
Zygarde Core activates under 1-5% (?)
Zygarde 10% activates under 10%
Zygarde 50% activates under 50%
The video definitely shows Zygarde 10% having less than 10% HP after taking Dragon Claw.
Zygarde Core activates under 1-5% (?)
Zygarde 10% activates under 10%
Zygarde 50% activates under 50%
The video definitely shows Zygarde 10% having less than 10% HP after taking Dragon Claw.
More like Zen Darmanitan.
Jesus that music gave me fits. There were *so* many points where I thought it was gonna segue into another theme and it didn't. Couldn't begin to count how many parallels there were! I hope it's deliberate, and not derivative. Remixes are cool, and standalone themes are great, but music aping other music for the sake of a theme doesn't leave much of a good impression.
Okay, counting them: the falling notes at the intro. Probably pretty common in a lot of themes across several regions. Would appreciate an example.
The baseline after the intro - something from DPPt. Gonna have to do a lot of youtubing :/
Will edit this with more later, plz add to them.
Okay, counting them: the falling notes at the intro. Probably pretty common in a lot of themes across several regions. Would appreciate an example.
The baseline after the intro - something from DPPt. Gonna have to do a lot of youtubing :/
Will edit this with more later, plz add to them.
Zygarde 10% seems to have between 99 and 105 base Defense based on the two damage rolls from the two videos shown today. It took 102 and 120 damage respectively from presumably the same Garchomp's Dragon Claw, which is only possible with that range of Defense. This is of course assuming a 0/0 neutral Garchomp, but that seems like a pretty safe bet.
Something that I noticed that may shed some light on the mechanics of the form change:
In the official Japanese trailer, Zygarde 10% takes 120 damage, leaving it with 5/125 HP. When it transforms into Perfect Form, it has 167/287 HP. So it had its max HP -120.
In the low quality one, Zygarde 10% takes 102 damage, leaving it with 23/125 HP. When it transforms into Perfect Form, it has 185/287 HP. So it had its max HP -102.
So when it transforms to Perfect Form, it increases its HP drastically, but retains the amount of damage it already took.
In the official Japanese trailer, Zygarde 10% takes 120 damage, leaving it with 5/125 HP. When it transforms into Perfect Form, it has 167/287 HP. So it had its max HP -120.
In the low quality one, Zygarde 10% takes 102 damage, leaving it with 23/125 HP. When it transforms into Perfect Form, it has 185/287 HP. So it had its max HP -102.
So when it transforms to Perfect Form, it increases its HP drastically, but retains the amount of damage it already took.
I would prefer Zygarde 10% to be some kind of second form for Zygarde from XY like Shaymin/Skymin. And in combat he just goes from 10% to 100% after the ability is triggered.
In the video from Taiwan, it activates the transformation at 23/125, meaning that this isn't the case. Neat idea though, I feel like 50% form activating the transformation at less than 50% would be hella cool competitively.
Cresselia~~
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So the damage is subtracted, instead of multiplied by a percentage?
Zygarde 10% gets hit by something super effective and takes alot of damage...
Weakness Policy activates and Zygarde 10% is at +2 (Special) Attack stats...
Zygarde 10% transforms to Zygarde Perfect, gets alot of HP and becomes healthy again...
Now you have a healthy +2 +2 Zygarde Perfect.
Good luck. Have fun.
(EDIT: Belly Drum + Sitrus Berry/Salac Berry could be fun too. Hypothetically... lol)
Weakness Policy activates and Zygarde 10% is at +2 (Special) Attack stats...
Zygarde 10% transforms to Zygarde Perfect, gets alot of HP and becomes healthy again...
Now you have a healthy +2 +2 Zygarde Perfect.
Good luck. Have fun.
(EDIT: Belly Drum + Sitrus Berry/Salac Berry could be fun too. Hypothetically... lol)
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The only problem I see is that, with 10%'s horrible HP, I don't find it likely that it can survive a reasonably strong super-effective attack.
Weakness Policy would be an awesome risk/reward, but Focus Sash would probably be the safer choice.
Cresselia~~
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Dragon Claw isn't really that weak though, and it came from a Garchomp.
They could have very well used a Dragon Claw from a min Garchomp, like we suspect they do on other trailers...
Is it possible to find out 10% Zygrade's attack stat? I think Thousand waves did about 60% to the Metagross.
I think a set of Core Enforcer/Thousand Arrows/DD/Sub could work out fine if Z-10% has good enough Speed, and Core Punisher is physical. Speaking of which, Dragon/T-Arrows is only resisted by Whimscott atm (I doubt Bug/Fairy would be a thing in Ubers), so I'm sure it'll be able to sweep.
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I do wonder if sub will activate the ability...
Whelp. They did it. Color me surprised for thinking otherwise. This does give me a good feeling about the post game though
Wow, this is some pretty crazy stuff to wake up to! Seems like I missed a lot while blasting through the new Kirby game...
Anyways, now I'm wondering if Thousand Arrows / Thousand Waves are still a thing. Looking at the animation for Zygarde 10% transforming into Zygarde Complete, maybe they're actually Zygarde Core's moves, summoning a bunch of Zygarde Cells?
Anyways, now I'm wondering if Thousand Arrows / Thousand Waves are still a thing. Looking at the animation for Zygarde 10% transforming into Zygarde Complete, maybe they're actually Zygarde Core's moves, summoning a bunch of Zygarde Cells?
The videos explicitly show Zygarde using both moves.
Oh, I guess I didn't recognize them because I've never seen their animation before x_x
Now for a more informed opinion: I'm really shocked that the Zygardes actually have different base HP! Since Zygarde Complete seems to restore a bunch of health after the forme change, I think thats a decent compromise, much better than how Zen Mode works at least! I hope theres a way we can just send out Zygarde Complete though.
Also people, expect more Pokemon news soon, Nintendo's E3 stream comes in 3 days!
Okay so obviously this one is less exact than the other calcs. But we did see Zygarde 10% using Thousands Waves and Thousand Arrows on a Metagross, so I tried to get an idea of 10% Form's Attack stat. They're both Level 50, but that's really all we know. Here are the assumptions I made:
-Both have 31 IVs across the board
-Both have 0 EVs across the board
-Both have neutral natures
-Attack does ~60% damage
If all these hold true, Zygarde 10% would have a minimum attack stat of 90.
-Both have 31 IVs across the board
-Both have 0 EVs across the board
-Both have neutral natures
-Attack does ~60% damage
If all these hold true, Zygarde 10% would have a minimum attack stat of 90.
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