Gliscor, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish...

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But Smeargle is one of the best Baton Passers of all time! Of all time!

Opening Notes: Okay, now that we've gotten that out of the way, how is everyone doing this evening? Good, I hope. Well, let me make this very clear before I go indepth with this team. I do not like Baton Pass. It is a attack that can easily screw you over at the wrong time, or it can be the savior that you need in an emergency. So far, Baton Pass has been the latter for me.

Team Creation Process: Well, I was browsing various forums on competitive battling when I came across a post that caught my interest. The post read "Dual Screen Azelf is on the rise concerning usage". I found that interesting since throughout my entire time on Shoddy, which is quite a bit if I do say so myself, I had never once seen a Dual Screen Azelf. So, I decided that the next team I made would feature it as a Lead. Now I've got one Pokemon decided.

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Team Creation Process: Now, since I'm using Dual Screens, it would behoove me to use a Pokemon that can set up easily, but still be a bit unpredictable. I decided to use a Baton Passer in this slot, so I started running down the list of Pokemon that could use Baton Pass, crossing out the Pokemon that wouldn't work on my type of team. I was looking for both Bulk and Speed, so that alone eliminated a large bit of the list. I eventually narrowed it down to either Zapdos or Gliscor. Zapdos lost for the fact that it can, at the very most, pass only Speed. It has the potential to pass Special Attack boosts with the aid of Charge Beam, but Charge Beam is such a weak move by itself, so I decided to go with Gliscor for its ability to pass Attack and Speed, Bulk, and typing.

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Team Creation Process: Okay, now that I've got a Passer, I need a reciprient for those boosts. Now, what could put both Attack and Speed boosts to good use, and have amazing coverage? The answer was simple: Lucario. Lucario has great attacking status from both side of the spectrum, and its only real weakness is its lack of Speed, unless you decide to give him a Choice Scarf. So, Lucario was the newest addition to the team.

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Team Creation Process: Now I've got a slight problem. Gliscor is weak to Ice attacks, while Lucario is weak to Fire, two of the main types of attack in the OverUsed tier. I need a Pokemon that can resist both types, have plenty of Bulk, and, hopefully, put any Attack or Speed passes to good use. Scrolling down the list of OverUsed Pokemon, I happened to see Snorlax, which has gone down in usage lately. With its ability, Thick Fat, and its massive HP and Special Defense stats, its like a wrecking machine. Give him a Swords Dance and the only thing killing him is his terrible Speed, which is somewhat remedied by Rock Polish.

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Team Creation Process: Another problem just arrived. I have a weakness to Fighting type attacks. Now normally, Gliscor would be able to take Fighting attacks like a pro, but Gliscor is only supposed to show up once or twice during the match, set up, and pass. No more, no less. Now I need a Pokemon to absorb Fighting attacks, so the obvious choice would have to be a Ghost type. This would cause a weakness confliction with both Azelf and the chosen Ghost, but Azelf usually doesn't live that long anyway, so it's not a problem. What was a problem, and still is, is choosing the Ghost type to use. I had to major choices, both of which are good: Choice Scarf Gengar or Choice Scarf Rotom-H. Now Gengar has a higher base Speed and Special Attack at its disposal, but it really lacks HP, which can hurt it with the constant switching it will have to do. Rotom-H has pretty decent base HP stat, and its Special Attack is nothing to scoff at. The only thing is its Speed, which isn't the greatest in the world. I chose to go with Rotom-H for the bulk that it carries, but if anyone can give me a decent reason as to why I should switch to a Choice Scarf Gengar instead, I might be swayed.

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Team Creation Process: Okay, now I've got practically all bases covered, except for one. I want more chances to send Gliscor in incase I wasn't able to set up early in the match. He easily comes in on Ground attacks that could kill Lucario, no questions asked. But I wanted there to be at least one other Pokemon that could work well off of Gliscor's typing. Eventually, I found it in Gyarados. Gyarados loves to recieve Speed or Attack boosts from Gliscor, and Gliscor can absorb any Electric based attacks sent Gyarados' way. And with that, I found the last memeber of my team.

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Team Creation Process: Well, I got a reply that gave me a great bit of advice that I had forgot to mention. Their advice was to use Metagross over Lucario. While I was a bit apprehensive at using Metagross, seeing as its not as versatile as Lucario, I tried it out and it has worked perfectly so far. I've also tried out Hariyama and both have worked well off of one another, so I'll be removing Lucario and Snorlax from the list of Pokemon. Also, Rotom-H and Gyarados will be changing slightly.

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Team Creation Process: Once again, the team has changed, this one prompted by the reply I got from locopoke. He mentioned that Hariyama wasn't doing much for the team, and I have to agree with him. I had placed Hariyama on the team to cover for Gliscor's weakness to Ice type attacks. However, Metagross easily absorbs those same Ice attacks, and he can hit back even harder, with or without a Swords Dance. Locopoke suggested replacing it with a Cresselia, which could set up Dual Screens in replacement of Azelf. Rotom was also removed, but not for a Offensive Suicune like locopoke recommended. Rather, a Gengar. My reasons will go more indepth during the analysis.

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Indepth Analysis

Team At A Glance
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Azelf (U) @ Light Clay
Type: Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Naive
EV's: 6 Atk | 252 SpA | 252 Spe​

~ Psychic ~
~ Taunt ~
~ Stealth Rock ~
~ Explosion ~​

Originally, a Dual Screen Azelf had this slot as the Lead Pokemon. However, after a reply from locopoke, I realized that I was depending on Azelf to do way too much for the team. I was expecting it to be able to set up Stealth Rock, Dual Screens, and maybe use Explosion if I had the opportunity. I managed to pull off all four moves about 70% of the time during a battle, but the other 30% was a coin flip. I'd have to analyze the Lead against me, decided whether it was Physical or Special based, activate one of the Screens to help defend me, then either set up Stealth Rock or set up the other Screen. Usually, the opponent would go for Stealth Rock, letting me set up all three. I changed to a normal Lead Azelf to help alleviate the pressure I constantly put on it. I might change it to a TrickZelf in the future. Tests are currently pending.​



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Gliscor (M) @ Yache Berry
Type: Ground/Flying
Ability: Hyper Cutter
Nature: Timid
EV's: 252 HP | 196 SpD | 60 Spe​

~ Swords Dance ~
~ Rock Polish ~
~ Taunt ~
~ Baton Pass ~​

Gliscor is the main star of the team, passing stats around as quickly as possible. The main idea behind this set is to come in on something that will most likely can't do any real harm to me, and as they switch out, use Rock Polish. With Rock Polish, I outspeed a Choice Scarf Jirachi, and shut down its Trick with Taunt, forcing it to switch out and giving myself another boost. Swords Dance is to give my main Physical Attackers the boost they really need. After a Rock Polish and Swords Dance, Gyarados becomes an unstoppable menace to my opponents team. Yache Berry is being tested over Lum Berry currently. With Yache Berry, I'm hoping to be able to withstand weak Ice attacks and still manage to get one boost passed on.​

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Metagross (U) @ Muscle Band
Type: Steel/Psychic
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spe​

~ Meteor Mash ~
~ Thunderpunch ~
~ Zen Headbutt ~
~ Earthquake ~​

Right off the bat, I'd like to thank Joshe for suggesting this set to me. It's worked even better than Lucario, running thorugh Pokemon with its massive attack score. Out of the 20 matches I've played with Metagross, it ended the game at the very least seven times. The other few were a combination between Gyarados and Hariyama. Earthquake is a move that needs no explanation in OverUsed. Meteor Mash is one of the most standard attacks on a Metagross set, and it comes with the small chance of upping the attack stat by +1, which is always nice. Zen Headbutt is secondary STAB, and it allows me to break through Pokemon that wall Metagross all day long like the Rotom formes. I might be changing the item from Muscle Band to Life Orb seeing as by the time Metagross hits the field, it should be primed to sweep. It isn't effected by Toxic Spikes, takes resisted damage from Stealth Rocks, and and Pokemon that can set up Spikes is slower than Gliscor, so they're taunted.
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Cresselia (F) @ Light Clay
Type: Psychic
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP | 60 Def | 152 Spe | 44 SpD​

~ Light Screen ~
~ Reflect ~
~ Ice Beam ~
~ Lunar Dance ~​

Dual Screen Cresselia. This slot used to be occupied by a Hariyama with Thick Fat. After realizing that Hariyama didn't really do anything during the time I tested it, I decided to use the Cresselia locopoke recommended to me. Ice Beam is used so I'm not complete Taunt bait, but I might switch it out for Thunder Wave, seeing as Gliscor could really benefit from the extra turns it could get to set up its boosts. Lunar Dance is used in case Gliscor was weakened after passing off its boosts. Lunar Dance brings it right back in, and their counter to Gliscor (Priority users) are probably all dead or weakened by now, letting me finish up the sweep with the two other sweepers that should be alive.​

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Gyarados (M) @ Life Orb
Type: Water/Flying
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 40 HP | 252 Atk | 196 Spe​

~ Dragon Dance/Bounce/Stone Edge ~
~ Ice Fang ~
~ Earthquake ~
~ Waterfall ~​

This Pokemon has caused so many ragequits that it's not even funny anymore. Pass a Swords Dance and Rock Polish to this guy and the opponent completely freaks out, losing, at the very least, two Pokemon. Dragon Dance may be removed for Bounce or Stone Edge, seeing as Gliscor is doing most of the boosting itself, so I see no reason to use Dragon Dance other than a fail-safe. Ice Fang hits Latias (one of the main counters) and all Dragons for massive damage. Earthquake and Waterfall have near perfect coverage, excluding Shedinja, which would be taken care of by Bounce if I decide to add it. Adamant may be change to Jolly and Life Orb may be changed to Leftovers. Took a bit out of Speed EV's and dumped them into HP, giving Gyarados a bit more bulk. I haven't changed the item seeing as Gyarados should not be out on the field long. It should be either running through the entire team, or getting ready to die. Those are its two jobs.​

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Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Type: Ghost/Poison
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EV's: 6 HP | 252 SpA | 252 Spe​

~ Hidden Power (Fire) ~
~ Shadow Ball ~
~ Focus Blast ~
~ Substitute ~​

Rotom-H used to occupy this slot as a counter to Scizor. Then I realized that I don't really need a counter to Scizor on this team, seeing as nothing is hit for a large amount of damage from Bullet Punch, Superpower can be dodged with Gengar, Pursuit doesn't help much seeing as I rarely, if ever switch, and U-Turn is just racking up Stealth Rock damage. I wanted a fast sweeper, but I wanted it to also have some kind of defense. Gengar is sort of a "Las Stand" Pokemon, only coming in when I've exhausted practically all other Pokemon, sets up a Substitute, and just cleans house.​

Closing Notes: There you have it: Team "Pass and Slash". As you can tell, this team wants to set up as soon as possible (it loves setting up before Turn 5) and then running through everything. This team could be best described as a "Suicide Team" for the fact that this team does NOT want to switch out by any means. It stays, fights, gets worn down, and then drags one last Pokemon down with it. Please don't tell me that when Gliscor goes down, my team practically falls apart. For one, no it doesn't. My team can function without Gliscor, just not on the same level. And two, Gliscor isn't supposed to go down without passing some major boosts. If Gliscor dies AFTER he pasts the boosts, chances are my opponent's team is already down quite a few members.​
 
That looks solid, I need to say. I would only suggest two small things, as they may help you.

a) I don't think that Lucario needs Extremespeed as it outspeeds almost everything after Agility boost. Go with ThunderPunch. Why ? That Lucario will stop one things - BulkyGyara. You don't want your sweep being brutally stopped because that Gyarados switches in and stops cold your Lucario. T-Punch is way to go. Well I guess that ES has small bonus that it may save you if something went wrong, but I think T-Punch is more beneficial here.
b) I think the problem here is Snorlax. It has bulk, I agree but I think that he doesn't fit this team. He doesn't benefit from speed boost and even with Swords Dance some things still check it like Machamp or Heracross, especially without Curse. Maybe you should try, as I think in theory it should be fine. That Pokemon is... Hariyama.

Hariyama resists both Ice and Fire attacks which trouble that Lucario and Gliscor. Also Hariyama has higher speed (50 vs 30). 50 base speed Pokemon with Max Speed outspeeds all 120's after one speed boost from Rock Polish or Agility, which is good bonus, giving Hariyama enough place for his own sweep at some circumstances. Hariyama also has better STAB to play with and STAB Close Combat is nothing to scoff at. I'm not sure about EVs, I think you need to play with them a bit. And don't underestimate Hariyama's bulk - it can take a beating. I think you may give it a try - your team prefer to stay on offensive and Hariyama helps you to keep offensive momentum.

I hope that helps. Cheers ;).
 
That looks solid, I need to say. I would only suggest two small things, as they may help you.

a) I don't think that Lucario needs Extremespeed as it outspeeds almost everything after Agility boost. Go with ThunderPunch. Why ? That Lucario will stop one things - BulkyGyara. You don't want your sweep being brutally stopped because that Gyarados switches in and stops cold your Lucario. T-Punch is way to go. Well I guess that ES has small bonus that it may save you if something went wrong, but I think T-Punch is more beneficial here.
b) I think the problem here is Snorlax. It has bulk, I agree but I think that he doesn't fit this team. He doesn't benefit from speed boost and even with Swords Dance some things still check it like Machamp or Heracross, especially without Curse. Maybe you should try, as I think in theory it should be fine. That Pokemon is... Hariyama.

Hariyama resists both Ice and Fire attacks which trouble that Lucario and Gliscor. Also Hariyama has higher speed (50 vs 30). 50 base speed Pokemon with Max Speed outspeeds all 120's after one speed boost from Rock Polish or Agility, which is good bonus, giving Hariyama enough place for his own sweep at some circumstances. Hariyama also has better STAB to play with and STAB Close Combat is nothing to scoff at. I'm not sure about EVs, I think you need to play with them a bit. And don't underestimate Hariyama's bulk - it can take a beating. I think you may give it a try - your team prefer to stay on offensive and Hariyama helps you to keep offensive momentum.

I hope that helps. Cheers ;).

Yes, I'll admit that ExtremeSpeed is a bit redundant. But it has saved me a few times in battle. Not alot, but a few times against enemy Infernape. Hm...that gives me an idea for a separate team. Dual Screen Azelf+Baton Pass Gliscor+Physical/Mixed Infernape...but that's something for another day. I think I'll try out Hariyama, seeing as Snorlax has been nothing but dead weight so far, and I don't need that on my team. You nailed it in one; My team is designed to strike hard and fast after a few boosts. I'll check out Hariyama for a fe battles. If it's done better than Snorlax, which it probably will, I'll change the RMT. Man though, I hate screwing around with EV sets. Oh well. Time to get cracking.

P.S: Thank you for taking the time to check out my team. I worked on it for the past few days, slowly taking out the various kinks and making it nice and presentable.
 
This is a great team and not much really needs to be changed so I'll just more or less suggest things for you to try out and see what works best. Firstly, I'd like you to try Metagross over Lucario for a number of reasons. One reason being it not weak to priority moves like Mach Punch, being a lot more bulky than Lucario and in cases Metagross has better moves than Lucario (despite CC but you'll get OHKOed by anything priority after a CC anyway @_@). Besides, Metagross has the raw natural base attack and the movepool to pull of an easy sweep most of the time. You have Gliscor who when paired together resist or are neutral to every move type and if you can get +4 Attack and +2 Speed, it'll be an easy gg for you. The set should go something like this:

Metagross @ Lum Berry / Muscle Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
~ Meteor Mash / Ice Punch
~ Earthquake
~ ThunderPunch
~ Zen Headbutt / Ice Punch

Normally when baton passing to a receiver, you'd like 100 accuracy moves, but you need meteor mash to OHKO things like Cresselia and Hippowdon (when at +4 and with a muscle band). The rest of the moves are pretty much self explanatory with Thunderpunch taking out those bulky waters and Skarmory and Earthquake for finishing off most steels that think they can wall you. Zen Headbutt on the other hand, needs a bit of explaining. Zen Headbutt gives you a powerful secondary STAB that can allow you to break through the defenses of things that can wall Metagross all day, most notably Swampert, Rotom, and Zapdos. A +4 Zen Headbutt will do atleast 95% and will OHKO it most of the time, while Zapdos and Rotom-A get absolutely obliterated by it. As for the Item choice, you need a Muscle Band to get the OHKO on Hippowdon and Cresselia (with Meteor Mash) while Lum Berry gives you a safe switch in on any status move, for example, you can pass to Metagross while a Rotom Will-O-Wisp's you and then you can proceed to sweep the rest of his team.

Next would be Gyarados, and I'd like you to use Leftovers and the Spread: 60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spe. With this spread and leftovers you gain quite a bit of bulk and you still get to outspeed all Jolly Choice Scarfed Base 100's such as Flygon. Any other speed is superfluous as you can't get enough speed to outspeed Scarfed Latias' and Gengar's without going Jolly. And while we're on bulky spreads, I'd really like you to use a Bulkier EV Spread on Rotom-H. Something like 216 HP / 40 SpA / 252 Spe or 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe works fine; you just need some bulk to take a few Bullet Punches and maybe a Stone Edge / Waterfall. Also you should really keep it Scarfed because you can't always have everything going your way and Lucario or Gyarados can set up and sweep your team and it's just generally good to have a back up there for you if you need it.

And not really a suggestion, but I can't help but want Tyranitar over Snorlax for several reasons. Firstly, If you switch Gliscor's nature to Sand Veil the sandstorm generated by Tyranitar's ability will help you pass those boosts and possibly more boosts than normal due to the 20% accuracy drop. You can also utilize Pursuit to take out Latias' and Rotom's that think they can prevent you from setting up your sweep and walling Gyarados / Metagross (if you can't get +4). I really don't know what set though, as anything can technically work, be it Baittar, Scarftar, or even a special defensive leftovers version with Pursuit works. You'll have to play around with this one if you want to test it.

Good Luck!

EDIT: figures my 450th post would be a rate. ha!
 
This is a great team and not much really needs to be changed so I'll just more or less suggest things for you to try out and see what works best. Firstly, I'd like you to try Metagross over Lucario for a number of reasons. One reason being it not weak to priority moves like Mach Punch, being a lot more bulky than Lucario and in cases Metagross has better moves than Lucario (despite CC but you'll get OHKOed by anything priority after a CC anyway @_@). Besides, Metagross has the raw natural base attack and the movepool to pull of an easy sweep most of the time. You have Gliscor who when paired together resist or are neutral to every move type and if you can get +4 Attack and +2 Speed, it'll be an easy gg for you. The set should go something like this:

Metagross @ Lum Berry / Muscle Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
~ Meteor Mash / Ice Punch
~ Earthquake
~ ThunderPunch
~ Zen Headbutt / Ice Punch

Normally when baton passing to a receiver, you'd like 100 accuracy moves, but you need meteor mash to OHKO things like Cresselia and Hippowdon (when at +4 and with a muscle band). The rest of the moves are pretty much self explanatory with Thunderpunch taking out those bulky waters and Skarmory and Earthquake for finishing off most steels that think they can wall you. Zen Headbutt on the other hand, needs a bit of explaining. Zen Headbutt gives you a powerful secondary STAB that can allow you to break through the defenses of things that can wall Metagross all day, most notably Swampert, Rotom, and Zapdos. A +4 Zen Headbutt will do atleast 95% and will OHKO it most of the time, while Zapdos and Rotom-A get absolutely obliterated by it. As for the Item choice, you need a Muscle Band to get the OHKO on Hippowdon and Cresselia (with Meteor Mash) while Lum Berry gives you a safe switch in on any status move, for example, you can pass to Metagross while a Rotom Will-O-Wisp's you and then you can proceed to sweep the rest of his team.

Next would be Gyarados, and I'd like you to use Leftovers and the Spread: 60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Spe. With this spread and leftovers you gain quite a bit of bulk and you still get to outspeed all Jolly Choice Scarfed Base 100's such as Flygon. Any other speed is superfluous as you can't get enough speed to outspeed Scarfed Latias' and Gengar's without going Jolly. And while we're on bulky spreads, I'd really like you to use a Bulkier EV Spread on Rotom-H. Something like 216 HP / 40 SpA / 252 Spe or 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe works fine; you just need some bulk to take a few Bullet Punches and maybe a Stone Edge / Waterfall. Also you should really keep it Scarfed because you can't always have everything going your way and Lucario or Gyarados can set up and sweep your team and it's just generally good to have a back up there for you if you need it.

And not really a suggestion, but I can't help but want Tyranitar over Snorlax for several reasons. Firstly, If you switch Gliscor's ability to Sand Veil the sandstorm generated by Tyranitar's ability will help you pass those boosts and possibly more boosts than normal due to the 20% accuracy drop. You can also utilize Pursuit to take out Latias' and Rotom's that think they can prevent you from setting up your sweep and walling Gyarados / Metagross (if you can't get +4). I really don't know what set though, as anything can technically work, be it Baittar, Scarftar, or even a special defensive leftovers version with Pursuit works. You'll have to play around with this one if you want to test it.

Good Luck!

EDIT: figures my 450th post would be a rate. ha!

Yeah, I forgot to mention in the main post that Metagross had actually been kind of something that I wanted to try out. I suppose Tyranitar is something else I can try out. I'm currently trying out Hariyama in Snorlax's slot, so Tyranitar will come next. And I don't want to switch Gliscor's nature seeing as if they send in something with Intimidate (which happens alot after realizing I'm going with a BP moveset), and that can really screw over Gyarados or Lucario. I'll try out your suggestions tonight. Thanks for the review over my team.
 
I have played with both Azelf and Uxie for a dual screen lead, and I have generally found Uxie to be be better. It has more bulk. Instead of explosion you could use memento. It basicly makes your opponents attacks useless against anything with a team as bulky as yours.
 
I have played with both Azelf and Uxie for a dual screen lead, and I have generally found Uxie to be be better. It has more bulk. Instead of explosion you could use memento. It basicly makes your opponents attacks useless against anything with a team as bulky as yours.

Normally I would agree with you and say Uxie is better for setting up Dual Screens, but for this kind of team, Uxie is the worst Pokemon to use to set up. This team is all about having Azelf use its superior Speed to set up Screens and Rocks, Explode, and then just flow with the momentum into the next Pokemon. Everything is meant to flow from one Pokemon to the next, with each Pokemon designed to be as versatile as possible so I never have to switch out other than in dire situations.
 
Pretty basic baton pass team but I have a few suggestions to make it better.

First of all I think it'd be best to change Azelf from dual screens to your basic suicide lead. SR / psychic / explosion / taunt with 252 speed / 252 spA / 6 Atk and a Hasty Nature. Next you definetely need Dual screens, but I just think that it's best to have dual screens and sr be on 2 different mons. If the same mon has the responsibility of setting up sr AND getting screens up then it's more likely that you're only going to accomplish one or the other. Hariyama is trash, replace him with Cresselia and have her as your dual screener.

Cresselia @ Light Clay
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EVs: 252 HP / 60 Def / 44 SpD / 152 Spe
- light screen
- reflect
- lunar dance
- psychic / ice beam

Great support, Lunar dance is amazing when paired with light screen and reflect. It'll keep Gliscor alive for a very long time, he may even be able to accomplish more than one BP in a match.

For Gliscor, replace Lum with yache berry so he isn't fucked over by some asshole with an ice sharder.

On Gyarados, Dragon Dance is a no-brainer, it shouldn't even be slashed. Gyarados is a great Pokemon and should be able to function with OR without baton pass boosts. The moveset you should be using is Dragon Dance / Waterfall / Stone Edge / Earthquake. Honestly it has the best coverage, but if you want you can ditch Earthquake for Taunt if you dont wanna be phazed. And there's always Bounce, but that's pretty much the basic moveset you're going to want to be using.

Rotom-H is also out of place here and he kills the momentum. I think you should have offensive CM Cune instead of Rotom. Like Gyarados, it functions on its own as well as with a speed boost from Gliscor, and it's typing matches perfectly with Gliscor so it naturally makes a great receiver and many teams will be thrown off guard by it.
 
I just have a simple suggestion. Your team is absolutely awesome, and I may use it some time ;), but I was wondering if you every considered a Lucario over Gyarados. A mixed Lucario could help you sweep your opponent's team after one Agility/SD. Here's what I'm talking about:

Lucario @ Life Orb
28 Atk/252 SpA/228 Spe
Inner Focus Ability
Naive Nature
- Close Combat
- ThunderPunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Dark Pulse

This post will tell you everything you need to know about this set.
 
I just have a simple suggestion. Your team is absolutely awesome, and I may use it some time ;), but I was wondering if you every considered a Lucario over Gyarados. A mixed Lucario could help you sweep your opponent's team after one Agility/SD. Here's what I'm talking about:

Lucario @ Life Orb
28 Atk/252 SpA/228 Spe
Inner Focus Ability
Naive Nature
- Close Combat
- ThunderPunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Dark Pulse

This post will tell you everything you need to know about this set.

Um, yeah. Feel free to use it if you'd like. I don't have any real problem with that. I like the Mixed Lucario set, and I'll definately try it out. So far though, Metagross has been able to rip through anything like wet paper, so Lucario better be impressive to try to take Metagross' slot. Especially considering that Lucario is weak to Priority after a Close Combat.
 
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