Ubers Good boi (Wallbreaker Zacian) [QC 4/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Wallbreaker
move 1: Swords Dance / Substitute
move 2: Behemoth Blade
move 3: Play Rough
move 4: Tera Blast / Wild Charge / Crunch
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Fire / Ground / Flying / Water
[SET COMMENTS]

* Thanks to its great Attack, massive Speed, and fantastic defensive typing, Zacian-C functions as a great revenge killer and wallbreaker in Ubers.
* Zacian-C's superb typing lets it survive many resisted hits from various attackers. This includes Ice-type attacks such as Glacial Lance from Calyrex-I and Ice Beam from specially offensive Arceus formes, as well as Fairy- and Dragon-type attacks from Arceus-Fairy, Miraidon, and Koraidon.
* Swords Dance combined with Intrepid Sword skyrockets Zacian-C's Attack, allowing it to OHKO most Pokemon in the tier that don't resist its STAB attacks. Substitute is an option that should be used exclusively on hyper offense teams, allowing Zacian-C to generate momentum on a predicted switch into a check like Skeledirge.
* While Intrepid Sword allows Zacian-C to threaten to KO many staples in the tier such as Arceus-Fairy, Kyogre, and Eternatus, Intrepid Sword only working once per battle means that one should think twice before sending Zacian-C onto the field, as wasting its ability makes for massive loss in damage output.
* Tera Blast can be used in conjunction with Tera Ground or Tera Water as a way to 2HKO Skeledirge. Wild Charge can be used instead to deal with Toxapex, Corviknight, defensive Kyogre, and Arceus-Water. Tera Electric strengthens Wild Charge even more, allowing Zacian-C to break through Dondozo, while OHKOing Kyogre at +2. It also lets Zacian-C survive a Behemoth Blade from opposing Zacian-C at +3.
* Crunch offers more flexibility, as it hits Skeledirge for super effective damage without relying on Terastallization. A Defense drop on the switch can also force it out. Tera Dark can be used in combination with Crunch, as it then 2HKOes Skeledirge.
* Tera Fire allows Zacian-C to take on Skeledirge and Arceus-Fairy more comfortably, making it immune to Will-O-Wisp and giving it a resistance to Fire.
* Tera Flying is another great tool to take Ground-types that would otherwise offensively check Zacian-C, like Groudon and Arceus-Ground, by surprise, transforming its weakness into an immunity and allowing Zacian-C to have a crucial free turn to beat its would-be checks.
* Tera Ground and Tera Water let Zacian-C 2HKO Skeledirge on the switch with Tera Blast and allow it to survive previously super effective moves like Groudon's Precipice Blades, Arceus-Ground's Judgment at +1, and Arceus's Earthquake at +2.
* Zacian-C's excellent traits make it one of the best choices for bulky offense and hyper offense teams. Its blistering Speed lets it revenge kill many unboosted tier staples such as Koraidon, Miraidon, Arceus, and Eternatus. Its excellent Fairy typing also lets it check Choice Scarf Miraidon and Koraidon locked into a Dragon-type attack, and its high physical firepower makes it one of the best wallbreakers at forcing Calm Mind Arceus variants out.
* Zacian-C has trouble breaking through physical walls like Groudon, Skeledirge, Corviknight, and Toxapex, which makes Miraidon a good teammate, as it threatens to OHKO them with its powerful STAB moves. Hazard setters like Ting-Lu and Groudon also make for good partners, as they help to put Zacian-C's targets into OHKO range. Ting-Lu can also check Miraidon sets, while Groudon is a good check to most Koraidon sets.
* Kyogre makes for a good teammate, as it sets rain that reduces the damage Zacian-C takes from Fire-type attacks while also boosting Tera Blast Water, allowing Zacian-C to 2HKO Tera Fairy Skeledirge.
* Choice Band Koraidon is a particularly strong partner for Zacian-C, as it can force Skeledirge to commit to using Tera Fairy due to Dragon Claw being able to 2HKO it otherwise, letting Zacian-C pressure it heavily with Behemoth Blade. In return, if Zacian-C forces Skeledirge to commit to using Tera Fairy, Choice Band Koraidon can then threaten to OHKO it with a Tera Fire- and Orichalcum Pulse-boosted Flare Blitz. Choice Scarf Outrage Koraidon can also accomplish this while providing speed control against opposing Zacian-C, Choice Scarf Kyogre, and Dragon Dance Arceus.

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Don't slash Tera Blast with Play Rough

Zacian-C is one of the scariest sweeper of the metagame thanks to the combination of its good typing, great offensive stats, and Speed.
I really don't like the impression this gives; Zacian-C has a multitude of roles and honestly its main one is being a solid revenge killer with a fantastic defensive typing that will occasionally break enough to sweep. The nerfs to this mon mean it's not the complete overwhelming offensive presence of last gen.

I would say something like "Thanks to its great Attack, massive Speed, and fantastic defensive typing, Zacian-C functions as a great revenge killer and breaker in the Ubers tier"

Swords Dance combined with Intrepid Sword skyrockets Zacian-C's Attack, allowing it to OHKO most Pokemon in the tier that doesn't resist its STABs, like Miraidon, Koraidon, Groudon, and Giratina-O.
This list is hella weird lol, I need SD to kill Miraidon?? Defensive Groudon also lives a +3 Behemoth Blade... just leave the list out.

Wild Charge can be used instead to deal with defensive Kyogre and Arceus-Water.
You gotta add Toxapex and Corviknight here first. Also mention Tera Electric here letting you OHKO these mons (and is nice for Dondozo too).

Crunch offers more flexibility with your Terastallization, as it can force Skeledirge out with its Defense drop chances.
The first sentence here is too vague imo; you should be explicit and say something like "Crunch is a way to hit Skeledirge super-effectively without having to save your tera for Tera Blast". The Defense drop chances aren't the main appeal of Crunch, just a bonus of it. This is a good place to also mention Tera Dark.

Tera Steel boosts Behemoth Blade so Zacian-C can reliably OHKO defensive Groudon after Stealth Rock damage at +3
Change Stealth Rock to Spikes here (Groudon will heal off the rocks damage from lefties).

Due to its troubles to break through bulky physical threats like Groudon and Skeledirge, Kyogre makes for a good teammate, which also reduces the damage Zacian-C takes from Fire-type attacks by setting up the rain. Hazards setters like Ting-Lu and Groudon makes for good partners as they help to put Zacian-C's targets into the OHKO range. Ting-Lu can also check Miraidon set, while Groudon is a good check to most Koraidon sets.
I would change the main Kyogre mention here to Miraidon and let Kyogre have its own section explaining why Kyogre is a good partner for being able to switch in on Zacian-C's checks, but also setting up rain with Zacian-C can abuse with Tera Water.

Due to its troubles to break through bulky physical threats like Groudon and Skeledirge
Mention Toxapex and Corviknight here.

You need a bullet point on the defensive utility Zacian-C provides; it's one of the only Steel- and Fairy-types in the entire tier meaning its a major way for teams to get critical resistances to Ice-, Fairy-, and Dragon-type moves. Zacian is also a major way to stop CM Arceus forms in their tracks through Zacian-C's massive physical offensive presence, high speed, and good bulk.

You need a bullet point on how Zacian-C can effectively act as a revenge killer for many balance/BO builds thanks to it outspeeding everything in the tier unboosted.

I think a bullet point on Zacian's role on HO squads is good too, it's a pretty big mainstay there

Mention Band / Outrage Koraidon as a good partner for being able to break or force Tera Fairy from Skeledirge.

Will check after changes

EDIT: Looks good imo. There might be some merit to sets that drop a STAB move in exchange for more coverage but I'll let 2/2 do that if they any thoughts on it.

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This analyses completely missed out on the three best Tera types for Zacian: Fire, Fairy, and Flying. Flying should be first, Fairy second, and Fire third slash. In case you don't know what these do: Flying is immunity to EQ, now you own Arc-Ground, Groudon, and Lando-T (last two especially with Sub, mention the synergy with Sub). Fairy powers up Play Rough which means you OHKO Ting-Lu and Gira-O with Intrepid Sword, and ofc gives you neutrality to Fire and Ground. After SD and Intrepid Sword you OHKO offensive Groudon and have a shot to 2HKO Corv (guaranteed with Rocks). Fire means you resist Blitz and are immune to burns (also, now you beat Ditto).

As for the moveset itself, there is no mention of CC and Trailblaze? CC can be second slash with Behemoth and Trailblaze can be the last slash for the last slot. Also, we can't have Tera Blast for first slash. Wild Charge should be first slash, Crunch second, and Tera Blast third.

Now as for the analyses itself:

While Intrepid Sword allows Zacian-C to threatens to KO many offensive staples in the tier such as Arceus-Fairy, Kyogre, and Eternatus,
None of these are offensive staples, and Arceus-Fairy is especially not. Kyogre and Eternatus aren't OHKOd by Zacian even with Interprid Sword so not sure what that's supposed to mean (you need the right coverage and hope for them to be the right set), just remove this altogether. Important stuff to mention here is Gira-O after rocks, 2HKO on Arceus without defense investment, and most importantly you deal 80-90% to Ting-Lu.

Tera Steel boosts Behemoth Blade so Zacian-C can reliably OHKO defensive Groudon after Spikes damage at +3, as well as Ting-Lu, defensive Arceus forms besides Water, and Eternatus.
You don't need Tera Steel to OHKO Eternatus at +3.

Other than that, good job! QC: 2/2 after implementation. There's nothing else that I could see, if I see something else I'll let you know over Discord.
 

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Change the set name from good boi to just Wallbreaker for the reasons Lasen put below.

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Also while I agree with Ox about Tera Fire, I'm hesitant to advocate for Tera Flying to be the primary slash here, and would be much more comfortable with Tera Fire first. Dont include Trailblaze on this set, its meant to be the wallbreaker analysis, Trailblaze goes on a different, dedicated set as that has more to talk about there.
 

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i wanna add my point on the tera order, it should be ground / fire / flying and MAYBE fairy but thats probably too much and almost no one is running that anyway so yeah
 

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Implemented all the above, I also remove mentions to Tera Steel, since no one seemed to mention it in their Tera order. If it's not a good idea, just @ me on Discord. If not, this is ready for QC, so....

GP Team good luck on this one :regiF:
 

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QC 5/2...

[SET]
name: Wallbreaker
move 1: Swords Dance / Substitute
move 2: Behemoth Blade
move 3: Play Rough
move 4: Tera Blast / Wild Charge / Crunch
item: Rusted Sword
ability: Intrepid Sword
nature: Jolly / Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
tera type: Fire / Ground / Flying / Water
[SET COMMENTS]

* Thanks to its great Attack, massive Speed, and fantastic defensive typing, Zacian-C functions as a great revenge killer and wallbreaker in the Ubers tier.
* Zacian-C's superb typing let lets it survive many resisted hits from various attackers. (full stop) , like including This includes Ice-type attacks such as Glacial Lance from Calyrex-I from Calyrex-I's Glacial Lance, (remove comma) and Ice Beam from specially offensive Arceus forms's formes Ice Beam, as well as Fairy- and Dragon-types attacks from Arceus-Fairy, Miraidon, and Koraidon.
* Swords Dance combined with Intrepid Sword skyrockets Zacian-C's Attack, allowing it to OHKO most Pokemon in the tier that doesn't don't resist its STAB attacks. Substitute is an option that should be used exclusively on hyper offense offensive teams, allowing Zacian-C to generate momentum on a predicted switch on into a check like Skeledirge.
* While Intrepid Sword allows Zacian-C to threatens threaten to KO many staples in the tier such as Arceus-Fairy, Kyogre, and Eternatus, due to it being a one time use, Intrepid Sword only working once per battle means that one should think twice before sending Zacian-C on onto the field, (add comma) as wasting its ability makes for is a massive loss in damage output loss.
* Tera Blast can be used in conjunction with Tera Ground or Tera Water as a way to 2HKO Skeledirge. Wild Charge can be used instead to deal with Toxapex, Corviknight, defensive Kyogre, and Arceus-Water. Tera Electric strengthen strengthens Wild Charge even more, allowing Zacian-C to break through Dondozo, and let it while OHKOing Kyogre at +2. It also lets Zacian-C survive a Behemoth Blade from opposing Zacian-C at +3.
* Crunch offers more flexibility, as it hits Skeledirge for super effective damages without relying on Terastallization. A Defense drop on the switch can also forces it out. Tera Dark can be used in combination with Crunch, as it then 2HKOes Skeledirge.
* Tera Fire allows Zacian-C to take on Skeledirge and Arceus-Fairy more comfortably, making it immune to Will-O-Wisp and resisting giving it a resistance to Fire. (full stop) -type attacks, allowing it to win its duel against them. (you already say that it improves the matchup earlier in this sentence so this part is a bit redundant)
* Tera Flying is another great tool to take by surprise Ground-types like Groudon and Arceus-Ground that would otherwise offensively check Zacian-C, (add comma) like Groudon and Arceus-Ground, by surprise, transforming its weakness into an immunity, allowing and allowing Zacian-C to have a crucial free turn to beat its previous would-be checks.
* Tera Ground and Tera Water lets Zacian-C 2HKO Skeledirge on the switch with Tera Blast, (remove comma) and allows it to survive a previously super effective moves like Groudon's Precipice Blades, as well as Arceus-Ground's Judgement Judgment at +1, (add comma) and Arceus's Earthquake at +2.
* Zacian-C's excellent traits makes make it one of the best choices for bulky offensive and hyper offensive bulky offense and hyper offense teams. Its blistering Speed lets it revenge kill many unboosted tier staples such as Koraidon, Miraidon, Arceus, and Eternatus. Its excellent Fairy-type typing also lets it check Choice Scarf Miraidon and Koraidon locked on into a Dragon-type attack, and its high physical firepower makes it one of the best wallbreaker to force wallbreakers at forcing Calm Mind Arceus variants out.
* Due to its troubles to break Zacian-C has trouble breaking through physical walls like Groudon, Skeledirge, Corviknight, and Toxapex, which makes Miraidon is a good teammate, as it which threatens to OHKO them with its powerful STAB moves. Hazards setters like Ting-Lu and Groudon also makes for good partners, (add comma) as they help to put Zacian-C's targets into the OHKO range. Ting-Lu can also check Miraidon sets, while Groudon is a good check to most Koraidon sets.
* Kyogre makes for a good teammate, which also reduces as it sets rain that reduces the damage Zacian-C takes from Fire-type attacks by setting up the rain, and boosts while also boosting Tera Blast Water, allowing Zacian-C to 2HKO Tera Fairy Skeledirge.
* Choice Band Koraidon is a particularly strong partner for Zacian-C, as it can force Skeledirge to commit to using Tera Fairy due to Dragon Claw being able to 2HKO it otherwise, letting Zacian-C pressures it heavily with Behemoth Blade. In return, if Zacian-C forces Skeledirge to commit to using Tera Fairy, Choice Band Koraidon can then threaten to OHKO it with a Tera Fire- and Orichalcum Pulse-boosted Flare Blitz. (add hyphens after Tera Fire / Orichalcum Pulse) Choice Scarf Outrage Koraidon can also accomplish it, this while bringing some Speed providing speed control against an opposing Zacian-C, Choice Scarf Kyogre, and Dragon Dance Arceus.

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...and GP 1/1

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