Gourgeist-L [QC 0/2]

[Procrastinasian]

[SET]
name: Weakness Policy Sweeper
move 1: Flame Charge
move 2: Poltergeist
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Shadow Sneak
item: Weakness Policy
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With its Weakness Policy set, Gourgeist-L becomes a fantastic late game sweeper, capable of outspeeding most unboosted Pokemon in the metagame. In a tier with prevalent Knock Off users like Persian, Machoke, and Linoone-Galar, Weakness Policy is often quite easy to activate, especially since Gourgeist-L's immense bulk prevents most super effective moves to OHKO. Shadow Sneak allows it to beat fast offensive attackers such as Mr. Mime, Galarian Mime, and Drakloak that would otherwise potentially outspeed and stop a sweep, as well as come in and revenge kill weakened sweepers/wallbreakers like Silvally-Ice and Nasty Plot/Meteor Beam Lunatone. Power Whip and Poltergeist combine for powerful coverage as it hits most of the commonplace Psychic and Ghost metagame for neutral, if not super effective, damage. Explosion can do massive chunks to defensive Pokémon and provide momentum for your next Pokemon to be safely sent out, if need be. 184 Spe Flame Charge allows Gourgeist-L to speed creep Adamant Persian as well as neutral base 60s, while the 72 in HP allows it to sustain more hits in its race to completely sweep most teams once the very few Pokemon that threaten it are dealt with.

Weakness Policy Gourgeist-L can be utilized on any hyper offense or balance team, as a late game wincon and reliable revenge kiler. As most Pokemon that can beat Weakness Policy Gourgeist-L consistently include bulky Grass-Types, defensive setup/status users, and Pokémon with Foul Play, Pokemon that are very strong special attackers and hazard setters/removers are ideal partners for Gourgeist. Ice-type attackers, like Galarian Mime and Silvally-Ice, are especially good teammates, since they can pressure both bulky Grass-types as well as Vullaby. Additionally, Cufant and Trubbish can wall STAB-Type attacks from Gloom and Shiinotic and set up Stealth Rock and Spikes respectively, giving them good synergy with Gourgeist-L.

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Shadow Sneak
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Trick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Band Gourgeist-L is truly a force to be reckoned with, its dual typing wrecking havoc on most Pokemon in a tier with many Psychic and Ghost types and few relevant Grass resists. Max Attack with Dual STAB is a necessity for a Band user, while 184 Speed allows Gourgeist-L to speed creep the neutral base 60 speed tier, filled with threats such as Farfetch'd, Specs Whiscash, and Oranguru, all of which are eliminated or severely crippled by Power Whip. Faster wallbreakers like Mr. Mime and Lunatone fear Shadow Sneak, while slow Defensive Pokemon like Ivysaur and Klangare dealt large chunks of HP from Poltergeist on the switch in. The rest of the EVs are thrown into HP for longevity, as Gourgeist-L is incredibly difficult to OHKO even to a Super Effective move. As a bonus, Gourgeist-L can Trick cripple Stall/Setup Pokemon such as Vullaby and itemless Gothitelle that it usually can't power through and also give them an item for Poltergeist, while Explosion can do massive chunks to defensive Pokémon and provide momentum for your next Pokemon to be safely sent out.

Choice Band Gourgeist-L can be an optimal set on almost any non-Stall team. As Gourgeist-L is very bulky, making it hard to OHKO, the only true checks and counters to Choice Band Gourgeist-L are faster special revenge killers like Mr. Mime and Galarian Mime, and defensive Dark- and Grass-types such as Vullaby and itemless Gourgeist-L. Therefore, bulky/defensive Pokemon such as Specially Defensive Klang and Dual Screens Morgrem make for excellent teammates with Choice Band Gourgeist-L as the former beats the Mimes, while the latter beats Vullaby and opposing Gourgeist-L. Additionally, Pokémon that have access to VoltTurn like Torracat, Natu, and Linoone-Galar make for good teammates as well, as bringing in Gourgeist-L into an advantageous position will usually result in a significant payout.

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[Tuthur]

Please tell me when you implemented this, I'd like to give it another look before giving QC 1/2.

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[SET]
name: Weakness Policy Sweeper
move 1: Flame Charge
move 2: Shadow Sneak
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Poltergeist / Explosion
item: Weakness Policy
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spe

[SET]
name: Weakness Policy Sweeper
move 1: Flame Charge
move 2: Poltergeist
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Shadow Sneak
item: Weakness Policy
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

(Moves are ordered by how relevant they are)

[SET COMMENTS]

While it is outclassed by one of its three gourd relatives in nearly every aspect of competitive play, Gourgeist-Large finds itself as the only member that resides in ZU, ironically giving it the upper hand in actual utility in a weaker metagame full of special walls and bulky stall Pokémon. Don't mention Pokemon and tiers that aren't ZU. Also, you didn't mention what's this set niche in ZU i.e. one of the most threatening cleaner In fact, Gourgeist-Large's dual typing wrecks havoc on a majority of pokemon in a tier with many prevalent Psychic and Ghost types give examples, making it one of the best offensive threats the metagame has to offer. Furthermore, in a tier with prevalent Knock Off users give examples, Weakness Policy is often quite easy to activate, especially in mid-to-late game, you should mention somewhere that Gourg's great bulk allows it to take a super effective move when the focus of many teams becomes to try and initiate sweeps fluff. Shadow Sneak allows it to beat Galar-Mime fast Pokemon outspeeding a Speed boosted Gourgeist-L (give examples), as well as come in and revenge kill weakened Pokémon give examples. Power Whip and Poltergeist combine for powerful coverage as long as the opponent has an item. Explosion Rock Slide can be used over Shadow Sneak to surprise kill Vullaby if need be. 152 184 EVs in Spe Flame Charge allows Gourgeist-L to speed creep Silvally-Ice base 100 Speed such as Galarian Linoone and Galarian Mr. Mime after +1 as well as outspeed invested base 60 (give examples), while the 104 remaining EVs in HP allows it to sustain more hits in its race to completely sweep most teams once the very few pokemon that threaten it are dealt with. WP Gourgeist can be utilized on any hyper offense and balance team, as a late game wincon and overall heavy-hitting dual-STAB attacker.

Don't forget to reoder the moves

WP Gourgeist-L can be utilized on any hyper offensive and balance team, as a late game wincon and overall heavy-hitting dual-STAB attacker. (potential teammates, and therefore archetype within Gourg fits, must be developped in the 2nd paragraph) As most of the Pokemon that can beat Gourgeist consistently 1v1 include itemless Gourgeist-L, defensive status users, and Vullaby, Pokémon that are very strong special attackers, trick users, hazard setters, and hazard removers are ideal partners for Gourgeist. You're very specific with your counters/checks, usually you try to fit them in different categories, so it's easier for the reader to figure out what are the counters, even if you don't name them all. For example, you can replace itemless Gourgeist-L with bulky Grass-type since itemless Shiinotic and Gloom also fits this category (be sure to include examples for each category tho). Also, don't forget to name Gourg's offensive checks that prevents it from setting up. Also, I'd like you to briefly explain for each partner why it does well paired with Gourg-L. Specs Kanto Mr. Mime with three attacks and Trick for that reason is a very strong teammate. Specs Oranguru is slower and slightly less powerful, but is immune to opposing Gourgeist-L's Ghost type moves and also has great coverage and access to Trick You must only focus on the traits which make Mime/Guru and Geist great partners like pressuring each other checks or weaken common checks. Cufant can wall Gourgeist's threats (give examples) and also set up stealth rock, giving it good synergy. Notably, these are solid teammates given you can prevent the opponent from setting up a bunch of hazards that will cripple your own future sweeping potential. Therefore, Defoggers such as Farfetch'd and Vullaby, or Magic Bouncers such as Natu are also very solid teammates as well. Fluff, every Pokemon appreciates hazard control. This should only be mentioned for Pokemon extremely weak to hazards.

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Trick / Explosion
move 2: Shadow Sneak
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Poltergeist
item: Choice Band
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Shadow Sneak
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Trick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

Just like previously, moves are ordered by relevancy and the following paragraph must keep this order

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Band Gourgeist-Large is truly a force to be reckoned with, as it hits every pokemon for massive amounts of damage, and can Trick cripple every threat that it can't power through you detail this latter, so no need to mention it here. While similar in construction to the Weakness Policy Set, Band Gourgeist sacrifices sweeping potential for the ability to be sent out multiple times in one match, as a premier revenge killer and as a stallbreaker. avoid comparing sets, the things you explained here must be mentioned in the first set analysis 184 Speed allows Gourgeist-L to exceed the critical neutral max ev base 60 speed tier give examples, they can be the same than the first set, while the rest of the evs are thrown into HP for longevity. fluff As a band user, Gourgeist can be utilized under any non-stall team. Band Gourgeist-L can potentially cripple most of its checks and counters using Trick (moves explanations fit in first paragraph, also you should avoid comparing sets)(mention Trick's downsides)(What are Shadow Sneak and Explosion for? The analysis must answer this question)

As a band user, Gourgeist-L can be utilized under any non-stall team. (this belongs to 2nd paragraph) Interestingly, Band Gourgeist can potentially beat every check to WP Gourgeist using Trick, but loses to faster Pokémon that aren't weak to shadow sneak like Silvally-Ice, which Weakness Policy could beat. Band Gourgeist synergizes incredibly well with hazard setters and fluff, that's true for every Pokemon slow turners (give examples) due to the immense pressure it places on an opponent that has to switch out fluff, you don't really explained why VoltTurn users are great partners meaning that Pokémon like Cufant, Trubbish, Corsola, and Palpitoad are solid pairings. Band Gourgeist is less affected by Toxic and T-Spikes, but dislikes other hazards even more than its WP brethren. Band Gourg dislikes being poisoned since it limits it limits the number of time it can come on the field, also don't compare sets As such, Defoggers, Spinners, and Magic Bouncers become even more essential teammates to help ensure Gourgeist is used as effectively as possible. (same comment as for WP)
I'm under impression, you missed the goal of this section. You should name checks and counters to Gourgeist as well as potential teammates that do well versus them (and fits well with Gourg)

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[Procrastinasian]

Hey Tuthur, I finished updating my analyses. Hoping for the best!

 

[Tuthur]

It's better, but I'd like to give another look before giving you the first QC.

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[SET]
name: Weakness Policy Sweeper
move 1: Flame Charge
move 2: Poltergeist
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Shadow Sneak
item: Weakness Policy
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Reorder the moves following the set's order.
Gourgeist-L's dual typing wrecks havoc on a majority of Pokémon in a tier with many prevalent Psychic and Ghost types like Mr. Mime and Dusclops, making it one of the best offensive threats the metagame has to offer. this better fits the second set tbf With its Weakness Policy set, Gourgeist-L becomes a fantastic late game sweeper, capable of outspeeding every non-boosted most unboosted Pokémon in the entire metagame (barring Jolly Persian and Noice Eiscue) you explain later what you outsped at +1. In a tier with prevalent Knock Off users like Persian, Machoke, and Linoone-Galar, Weakness Policy is often quite easy to activate, especially in mid-to-late game scenarios this is also due to Gourg's great bulk. Shadow Sneak allows it to beat fast offensive attackers such as Mr. Mime(s), Galarian Mr. Mime, and Drakloak that would otherwise potentially outspeed and stop a sweep, as well as come in and revenge kill weakened sweepers like Silvally-Ice and Nasty Plot/Meteor Beam Lunatone this is a wallbreaker not a sweeper. Power Whip and Poltergeist combine for powerful coverage as long as the opponent has an item. Fluff Explosion Rock Slide can be used to surprise kill lets Gourgeist-L beat usual checks like Vullaby and Rufflet if need be. You don't kill Pokemon ;_; 184 Spe Flame Charge allows Gourgeist-L to speed creep Adamant Persian as well as neutral base 60s, while the 72 in HP allows it to sustain more hits in its race to completely sweep most teams once the very few Pokémon that threaten it are dealt with. fluff

Weakness Policy Gourgeist-L can be utilized on any hyper offensive and or balance team ('and' is a bit confusing, this it can mean that WP Gourg can only played on teams that are both HO and balance), as a late game wincon and overall heavy-hitting dual-STAB attacker revenge killer with Shadow Sneak. As most of the Pokemon that can beat Weakness Policy Gourgeist-L consistently in a 1v1 include itemless bulky Grass-Types, defensive setup/status users, and Pokemon with Foul Play, Pokemon that are very strong special attackers, Trick users why?, and hazard setters that's obvious/removers nop, you can easily run WP Gourg without hazard removal since it it usually comes once or twice on the field are ideal partners for Gourgeist-L. Specs Kanto Mr. Mime/Oranguru with three attacks and Trick are therefore very strong teammates, as they can beat Gloom with their Psychic STAB I wouldn't use Mr. Mime as my check to Gloom, trick itemless Gourgeist-L and Shiinotic nah they crush them with their powerful STAB, and can beat Vullaby with Dazzling Gleam and Thunder/Thunderbolt Oranguru rarely runs these moves and rarely runs Specs respectively. Cufant and Trubbish can wall STAB-Type attacks from Gloom and Shiinotic, are immune to Toxic fluff, and also set up Stealth Rock and Spikes respectively, giving them good synergy. You should generalize your examples into Archetypes for examples Psychic-types instead of Mime/Gourg. Also you needn't to list partners that can deal with all checks/counters, but partners that handle some of them.

[SET]
name: Choice Band
move 1: Poltergeist
move 2: Shadow Sneak
move 3: Power Whip
move 4: Trick / Explosion
item: Choice Band
ability: Frisk
nature: Adamant
evs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Band Gourgeist-L is truly a force to be reckoned with, as it hits nearly every Pokémon in the tier for massive amounts of damage. You can mention defensive staples that are particulary threatened by Gourgeist-L as well as usual Ghost/Grass resists that get overwhelmed by it Max Attack with Dual STAB is a necessity, fluff while 184 Speed allows Gourgeist-L to exceed the critical neutral max EV speed creep base 60 speed tier with threats such as Farfetch'd, Specs Whiscash, and Oranguru. The rest of the EVs are thrown into HP for longevity, as Gourgeist-L is incredibly difficult to OHKO even to a Super Effective move. fluff As a bonus, Gourgeist-L can also Trick cripple every Stall/Setup Pokémon (i.e. Vullaby and Gothitelle) checks that it usually can't power through such as Vullaby and Gothitelle. Trick also gives an item to itemless foes that are immune to Poltergeist. What's Explosion for? What's Shadow Sneak for?

Choice Band Gourgeist-L can be an optimal set on almost any non-Stall team. Since it has access to Trick (Trubbish doesn't care of Trick, without Trick Gourgeist is far weaker and can't break anymore through stuffs like Gloom, Trick isn't even a required move on Choice Band Gourg, ik you really like this move but it isn't what makes CB Gourg that good and are to switch into) , the only true counters Band Gourgeist-L has are faster physical no, the best rk to Gourg are special attackers like Mimes, also every faster Pokemon can't revenge kill Gourg (Persian or offensive Solrock for example), you need to be more accurate on potential revenge killers. Also you should mention that Gourg is very bulky, therefore hard to OHKO so not that easily revenge killed, revenge killers like Linoone-Galar these aren't counters but checks, unlike the following ones, Foul Play Users like Vullaby, and Will-O-Wispers like itemless Defensive Gourgeist-L defensive Dark- and Grass-types such as Vullaby and itemless Gourgeist-L (less specific than your original archetypes of checks). Therefore, fast why fast? you usually deal with revenge killers with bulky Pokemon not with frail fast Pokemon Fairy- or Ice-type Pokémon that are very strong attackers like Mr. Mime, Galarian Mr. Mime-Galar, and Silvally-Ice make for excellent teammates with Choice Band Gourgeist-L, since they deal with Dark- and Grass-types, respectively. Checks/counters to the rk? Additionally, Pokémon that have access to Volt Switch, U-turn, Teleport, and Parting Shot VoltTurn users like Klang, Torracat, Natu, and Galarian Linoone-Galar make for good teammates as well, as bringing in Gourgeist-L into an advantageous position will usually result in a significant payout.

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[Procrastinasian]

Ready to be evaluated again!

 

[Tuthur]

Unfortunately, after consultation with the rest of the QC team, I decided to QC-reject this analysis. Despite two checks, the analysis is still flawed and some sections would need to be completely rewritten.
However, we encourage you to continue writing analyses in ZU but with simpler Pokémon than Gourgeist-L that you know better. If you ever have any questions or need advice, my PMs and those of most other QC team members are available to answer them.
Tagging Ho3nConfirm3d to lock this.

 

[Procrastinasian]

Man, this is so much harder than I thought it would be haha, thanks anyways