Greninja

[Laurel]

Changed Implemented, thanks. Waiting for final check.

 

[fleurdyleurse]

hi

check

Overview
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Greninja has an incredible base 122 Speed, which makes it capable of outspeeding nearly every viable Pokemon in the VGC metagame. Protean is one of the best abilities in the game, as it givesing Greninja STAB on all of its attacks. Greninja has a diverse movepool， which allows it to hit most threats for super effective damage. However, Greninja is very frail, which meands many things can OHKO it, which means it; it also loses easily to priority. While Greninja is definitely a fun Pokemon to use, it really needs to haveshould fill an important niche to consider usingrole if it in a tournaments used.

Standard
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name: Standard
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Rock Slide / Dark Pulse
move 4: Protect
ability: Protean
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Hydro Pump is necessary over Scald because Greninja needs theHydro Pump's power to guarantee certain OHKOes. Ice Beam hits Venusaur and Amoonguss super effectively, and it is Greninja's strongest option on this set for Ferrothorn. Rock Slide OHKOes both Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame, while Dark Pulse hits Aegislash and Reuniclus extremely hard. The choice between the two really hasused to do with personal preference. Protect is necessary solow Greninja's partner canto KO a threat without harming GreninjaGreninja being harmed. It is not worth replacing Protect with an additional coverage move because Greninja would become too exposed.

Set Details
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The EVs maximize Gre very self-explanatoryninja's damage output and Speed. A Timid nature allows Greninja to outspeed almost every viable VGC Pokemon without a Choice Scarf. Life Orb is nice for power, but Focus Sash is usable for longevity. However, Focus Sash is almost always outclassed by Life Orb because of Tyranitar's popularity and its ability, Sands Stream ability.

Usage Tips
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One needs to make sure that Greninja is not targeted by enemy attacks that will likely KO it. Greninja has great utility as a lead because it can scout for Choice Scarf users, though it generally needs to Protect first turn, as it fears chip damage, which puts it into certain moves' KO range. Greninja can also be used regularly if opposing Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated.

Team Options
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Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Mawile, or Choice Band Talonflame are all great partners, because they can protect Greninja from getting KOed by slower Pokemon, as well as provide offensive pressure. Mega Kangaskhan is an especially good partner because it can Fake Out opposing Choice Scarf users that would otherwise outspeed Greninja. Greninja can also be used in hail teams by replacing Ice Beam with Blizzard, which has more power and perfect accuracy in Hail, and Greninja can KO Pokemon that resist Blizzard, such as Aegislash, with Dark Pulse.

Other Options
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Mat Block only works the first turn Greninja is on the field, and it prevents one's team from all non-status moves that turn. However, unlike Protect, it does not have priority. Taunt is an option to stop moves such as Spore, Will-O-Wisp, and Trick Room, which can really help out Pokemon such as Mega Kangaskhan. Hidden Power Fire hits Ferrothorn, Hidden Power Grass hits Azumarill and Rotom-W, and Extrasensory hits Conkeldurr. Choice Specs is an option to hit like a nukevery hard, but Greninja cannot take as much advantage of its fantastic ability, Protean.

Checks & Counters
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**Rotom-W**: Rotom-W takes neutral damage from all of Greninja's standard moves in VGC. It can then retaliate with a STAB tThunderbolt, or burn any of Greninja's teammates that switch in.

**Talonflame**: Choice Band Talonflame always OHKOes Greninja with Brave Bird. However, Focus Sash Greninja easily KOes Talonflame in return with Hydro Pump.

**Fighting types**: Fighting -types like such asConkeldurr, Scrafty, and even Lucario check Greninja well. They can usually take a hit and retaliate back with a KO or threaten it with priority.

**Mega Mawile**: Mega Mawile hard counters Greninja because of its typing and bulk. Its Play Rough OHKOes Greninja, and Sucker Punch easily KOes Greninja after any bit of chip damage.

**Rage Powder and Follow Me Users**: Greninja cannot do anything against Pokemon that use Rage Powder and Follow Me. They can generally sponge a hit, leaving Greninja exposed to powerful attacks.

GP 2/2

 

[Laurel]

hi

check

Overview
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Greninja has an incredible base 122 Speed, which makes it capable of outspeeding nearly every viable Pokemon in the VGC metagame. Protean is one of the best abilities in the game, as it givesing Greninja STAB on all of its attacks. Greninja has a diverse movepool， which allows it to hit most threats for super effective damage. However, Greninja is very frail, which meands many things can OHKO it, which means it; it also loses easily to priority. While Greninja is definitely a fun Pokemon to use, it really needs to haveshould fill an important niche to consider usingrole if it in a tournaments used.

Standard
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name: Standard
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Rock Slide / Dark Pulse
move 4: Protect
ability: Protean
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
========

Hydro Pump is necessary over Scald because Greninja needs theHydro Pump's power to guarantee certain OHKOes. Ice Beam hits Venusaur and Amoonguss super effectively, and it is Greninja's strongest option on this set for Ferrothorn. Rock Slide OHKOes both Mega Charizard Y and Talonflame, while Dark Pulse hits Aegislash and Reuniclus extremely hard. The choice between the two really hasused to do with personal preference. Protect is necessary solow Greninja's partner canto KO a threat without harming GreninjaGreninja being harmed. It is not worth replacing Protect with an additional coverage move because Greninja would become too exposed.

Set Details
========

The EVs maximize Gre very self-explanatoryninja's damage output and Speed. A Timid nature allows Greninja to outspeed almost every viable VGC Pokemon without a Choice Scarf. Life Orb is nice for power, but Focus Sash is usable for longevity. However, Focus Sash is almost always outclassed by Life Orb because of Tyranitar's popularity and its ability, Sands Stream ability.

Usage Tips
========

One needs to make sure that Greninja is not targeted by enemy attacks that will likely KO it. Greninja has great utility as a lead because it can scout for Choice Scarf users, though it generally needs to Protect first turn, as it fears chip damage, which puts it into certain moves' KO range. Greninja can also be used regularly if opposing Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated.

Team Options
========

Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Mawile, or Choice Band Talonflame are all great partners, because they can protect Greninja from getting KOed by slower Pokemon, as well as provide offensive pressure. Mega Kangaskhan is an especially good partner because it can Fake Out opposing Choice Scarf users that would otherwise outspeed Greninja. Greninja can also be used in hail teams by replacing Ice Beam with Blizzard, which has more power and perfect accuracy in Hail, and Greninja can KO Pokemon that resist Blizzard, such as Aegislash, with Dark Pulse.

Other Options
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Mat Block only works the first turn Greninja is on the field, and it prevents one's team from all non-status moves that turn. However, unlike Protect, it does not have priority. Taunt is an option to stop moves such as Spore, Will-O-Wisp, and Trick Room, which can really help out Pokemon such as Mega Kangaskhan. Hidden Power Fire hits Ferrothorn, Hidden Power Grass hits Azumarill and Rotom-W, and Extrasensory hits Conkeldurr. Choice Specs is an option to hit like a nukevery hard, but Greninja cannot take as much advantage of its fantastic ability, Protean.

Checks & Counters
########

**Rotom-W**: Rotom-W takes neutral damage from all of Greninja's standard moves in VGC. It can then retaliate with a STAB tThunderbolt, or burn any of Greninja's teammates that switch in.

**Talonflame**: Choice Band Talonflame always OHKOes Greninja with Brave Bird. However, Focus Sash Greninja easily KOes Talonflame in return with Hydro Pump.

**Fighting types**: Fighting -types like such asConkeldurr, Scrafty, and even Lucario check Greninja well. They can usually take a hit and retaliate back with a KO or threaten it with priority.

**Mega Mawile**: Mega Mawile hard counters Greninja because of its typing and bulk. Its Play Rough OHKOes Greninja, and Sucker Punch easily KOes Greninja after any bit of chip damage.

**Rage Powder and Follow Me Users**: Greninja cannot do anything against Pokemon that use Rage Powder and Follow Me. They can generally sponge a hit, leaving Greninja exposed to powerful attacks.

GP 2/2

Changed implemented please check over my

Moves
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pg

I was not quite sure what you were saying.

 

[Oglemi]

Laurel you need to be a bit more specific in a couple spots:

"Hydro Pump is necessary over Scald because Greninja needs Hydro Pump's power to guarantee certain OHKOs."

Which OHKOs? Because you just saying that isn't very convincing without any examples.

"Greninja has great utility as a lead because it can scout for Choice Scarf users, though it generally needs to Protect turn one, as it fears chip damage which puts it into certain moves' KO range."

Same thing here. Which certain moves? What kinda power level are we talking here?

Fix that up and I'll upload

 

[Laurel]

Laurel you need to be a bit more specific in a couple spots:

"Hydro Pump is necessary over Scald because Greninja needs Hydro Pump's power to guarantee certain OHKOs."

Which OHKOs? Because you just saying that isn't very convincing without any examples.

"Greninja has great utility as a lead because it can scout for Choice Scarf users, though it generally needs to Protect turn one, as it fears chip damage which puts it into certain moves' KO range."

Same thing here. Which certain moves? What kinda power level are we talking here?

Fix that up and I'll upload

I made some edits if you want to look them over Oglemi :)
Thanks for the advice.

 

[Oglemi]

thanks

uploaded