Gyravire OU RMT

Bootang

I've been playing Pokemon since the GBC days, but have just recently taken an interest in competitive battling. I've been reading the strategy dex here on Smogon, and have slowly been building a team. Yesterday I downloaded Shoddy Battle, and so far this team has a winning record of 4-1. I'm hoping that some people with more experience can give me some tips. The "Gyravire" name is pretty lame, I know, but I came up with it on the spot because I don't feel like putting any thought into it.

Anyways, on to the building process. Gyrados and Electivire seem like an excellent core, so I went with them. Gliscor resists the supereffective attacks that are commonly aimed at those two(ground for electivire, and electric for gyarados), and makes a good lead. The rest of the pokemon are kind of meant to glue the team together. Starmie is a good scarfed revenge killer, while Nasty Plot Azelf and Swords Dance Scizor both have the potential to sweep, and Scizor makes a good physical tank.

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Sand Viel
232 HP / 44 ATK / 232 SPE
Jolly
Earthquake
U-Turn
Roost
Stealth Rock

My lead. Basically its job is to set up stealth rock and then either earthquake or u-turn depending on who the opponent's lead is. It is also a good wall for later in the game, as it can endure quite a few physical attacks and get a free switch in on electric and ground type moves.

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Starmie @ Choice Scarf
Natural Cure
4 HP / 252 SPA / 252 SPE
Modest
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic

Starmie's job is a revenge killer. The Choice scarf allows it to outspeed dragon dancers and bulky choice scarfers, plus everything without a speed boost. Modest Nature is to give it better attacking power, and with those 4 attacks it can hit most pokemon for supereffective damage. It can also switch in to fire attacks aimed at Scizor and water/ice moves aimed at Gliscor.

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Scizor @ Leftovers
Technician
156 HP / 252 ATK / 100 SPE
Adamant
Bullet Punch
Superpower
Bug Bite
Swords Dance

Scizor's main purpose is to stop dragon type attackers in their tracks. Although, now that Salamence is Uber the only real threats are the less common Flygon and Dragonite. Anyways, with Scizor's great bulk and numerous resistances it is easy to switch in and set up swords dance. Leftovers can help to slowly heal off any damage it may aquire.

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Azelf @ Life Orb
Levitate
4 HP / 252 SPA / 252 SPE
Timid
Psychic
Fire Blast
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot

Azelf is a standard special sweeper. I rarely get a chance to use Nasty Plot because of Azelf's frailty, but even without the boost Azelf can still OHKO quite a few Pokemon. And if I can set up Nasty Plot, Azelf becomes incredibly dangerous.

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Gyarados @ Wacan Berry
Intimidate
60 HP / 200 ATK / 66 DEF / 184 SPE
Adamant
Waterfall
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Dance

The standard moveset of DD Gyarados, with some added bulk to make it harder to KO. I opted for Wacan Berry over Life Orb to help it survive longer. And once it has received the Dragon Dance boost, it won't need the Life Orb to OHKO most things anyways. The Speed EVs allow it to outspeed positive natured base 115s after Dragon Dance.

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Electivire @ Life Orb
Motor Drive
36 ATK / 252 SPA / 220 SPE
Mild
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Flamethrower

This is the "vire" in my "gyravire" team. Basically, when people see Gyrados sent out, they think, "THUNDERBOLT IT." So when I see the common Starmie, Jolteon, etc that is sent in to counter Gyrados, I simply switch to Electivire and get a speed boost. Then they have a whole new sweeper to worry about. And if my opponent tries to Earthquake, I can switch right back over to Gyarados and Intimidate them.

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Some optional changes that I've been thinking of are...

Giving Gliscor Focus Sash: This would help Gliscor against faster and more offensive leads.

Replacing Azelf's Nasty Plot with Thunderbolt: I rarely get to set up Nasty Plot anyways, and Thunderbolt would help me against Flying types and Empleon.

Replacing Gyarados's Wacan Berry with Lum Berry/Charti Berry/Life Orb/Shell Bell: Relying on my opponent to send out an electric attacker is a big part of my plan, so it may be beneficial to replace the Wacan Berry with another item.
-I don't have anyone who is resistant to rock type attacks, so the Charti Berry could help there.
-The Lum Berry is to heal off status conditions. If Gyarados was to become paralyzed or poisoned, my whole "Gyravire" strategy could fall apart.
-The Life Orb would give Gyrados more raw power, and could help to KO pokemon if I don't have time to set up Dragon Dance.
-The Shell Bell may seem a little odd, but if I can set up Dragon Dance, Gyarados will be doing massive amounts of damage, allowing him to heal massive amounts as well.

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Long read, I know. Because I am inexperienced, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much fore taking the time to read & rate. =)
 
If you're using Gyaravire, why is there a Wacan berry on Gyarados when Electivire can get a free switch-in. Leftovers seems like a better choice for it, anyways. But, if you are still going to use Wacan berry as insurance vs. Rotom-A (I've seen reachzero do this before), give Gyarados Payback over Stone Edge.
 
be very careful of Kingdra, most concern from Chesto rest, who can set-up, and destroy most of tour team with waterfall/Outrage, especially since Gliscor is not runnind defense EV's, putting it at much more risk.
Heatran's most popular sets can not run through your team, but can certainly threaten you if it is a sub set with fire blast and Earth power and an extra move to hit other threats.
Scizor needs brick break/ Superpower, over bug bite, for predicted Heatrans and Blissey. It also gives you better coverage, if you play a mental game, run Expert belt on Scizor as it might trick people into thinking your CS or CB.

Welcome to smogon, and I'll add anything else I might find.
 
Gyarados needs life orb, waterfall is much much weaker of an attack than dnite's outrage, it needs the extra power.
 
Hi, I'm no expert, but i have a few things i'd like to say.

The first paragraph is usually a brief explanation of the team. But that second paragraph kinda just ruined the whole thing. You could have left it out, and put in longer descriptions. And I'm sure you didnt invent the term "GyaraVire" GyaraVire is pretty common. And Scizor is NOT a physical tank. Hippowdon is.

About your lead, dont give gliscor focus sash, because he is extremely bulky. If you come up against a lead with a type advantage, switch. Also, the Ev's look a bit random. Maybe you should've explained them a bit better. Gliscor is a good lead, but if your only picking him for typing wit GyaraVire, then thats retarded. Gyara and Evire cover each others weaknesses almost perfectly, and exploit them with abilities/setting up.

Starmie looks good. Just one thing, Outside of leads, Psychic on Starmie is pretty bad. I advise using Trick or Grass knot. Trick can cripple Blisseys and the likes that wall Starmie. Grass knot can hit Swampert, and some other Ground/water if you happen to run into them. It's also a less risky move than Hydro pump to hit Rock/Ground types late game, where a miss is crucial. Rapid spin might work too, because one of your main sweepers is weak to it. Your starmie is modest, nothing wrong with that. Just watch out for other scarf starmies, who might be timid. So if you dont see LO damage, be wary.

I dont really know what Scizor is doing there, so i wont say anything about it, Except Dragons can be revenged by Starmie. The evs again look pretty random.

Azelf looks useless to me there tbh. Looks a bit like Starmie, but with nasty plot. Also, it adds nothing to your synergy, except another levitator, which you have enough, IMO. Also, because of it, half your team relies on setting up. Unfortuneately, I dont have any ideas of what you could replace it with. What you could do, is make Azelf the lead, and Gliscor a stallbreaker. Just a suggestion, coz Azelf makes a great lead.

Gyara: More random EVs? There is actually a set dedicated to Bulky Gyarados. Its one of my favourite sets ever :D

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Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
156 HP / 72 Atk / 96 Def / 184 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Taunt
~ Waterfall
~ Stone Edge / Bounce

This Set abuses Phazers, and walls in OU. Get one DD up, as they bring in a phazer, (Skarm is common) And imagine the look on their face when you taunt. " free DD's at least. Very good sweeping potenial. Also, if you can taunt a rotom on a switch in, happy days! No burn on your vire. BTW, Shed Shell is plain stupid. You get NO recovery when taunting and D-Dancing, when you could be working off Stealth Rocks damage.

Yeah, the Evire actually looks Good. Just one thing: Hp Ice over Ice Punch. Most of the EV's are pumped into Sp.Att, making it more powerful. What were you thinking. You could use HP Ghost over something to hit Rotom, Evire's biggest counter. Seems like a stupid move, but it could come in handy.

One more thing, learn how to use sprites in rmt's, because it makes te page more colouful, and easier to read/rate.
Thats all i have to say.
 
I've been thinking, and one pokemon that could completely destroy this team is Rotom-W. Rotom-F and Rotom-H could give me major problems too. The best I can come up with to solve this problem is to either give Azelf Shadow Ball, or replace it with an Infernape set that has Shadow Claw. Infernape has good synergy with Scizor and Starmie, so that could possibly work out.
 
Infernape with shadow claw and/ or Azelf is not a good reliable counter to Rotom-a, and Gyaravire (the core of the team) not only does not function near as well as it once did, but seems to be where Rotom-a will be able to hurt you, unless they're choiced and you sswitch into a electric move, it which case you are still outsped and or Ko'ed after he comes back in. A good pursuit user, notably your scizor can stop any Rotom-a other than non choiced Rotom-H, and the band or scarf set seem much more viable to your team, especially the CB set, which is a good wall-breaker/ scout and is a good counter to Rotom.
 
Yeah, Rotom would be troubling to this team, but it depends on the situation.
He could predict gyaravire, and burn it. ;o;

You could change scizor to a Choice Scarf set, for a fast pursuit, or put a scarfTar on your team.

Another solution would be to swap Evire for Life Orb Jolteon. I know, It seems stupid because the team was all about GyaraVire, but Jolteon has amazing speed without any abilities, and gets extrat health from every electric attack, which helps sweeping. Also, Jolteon can hit many things that Evire can't. Just a solution to the rotom problem, if you solve it any other wat, then Evire should be fine ^_^
 
Hey does any one know how to post pictures if your posting rules say you can't post attachments? And about the team, maybe add Tyranitar with pursuit which can 2HKO the Rotom forms.
 
despite what everyone says, keep wacan berry. i have used gyaravire to give my CRE a boost of about 300 in one day (maybe 2) (i played alot). wacan berry lets you see what vaporeon/suicune will do as they normally switch into gyarados if no other couter is avaliable. if they have HP elec then they will use it. if not, they will toxic or something. but the wacan helps you 'scout' for HP elec. when you survive the attack, switch to e-vire to take it.

And Scizor is NOT a physical tank. Hippowdon is.
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.@Mooo. Scizor IS a physical tank. Hippowdon is a wall. Walls take powerful hits much better than tanks. Tanks simply come with bulk. scizors defenses are 70/100/80. Those are tank stats.

You would need a tyanitar as it comes with a nice fire resit (gyarados, can't handle heatran as it loses 25% from fire blast. another 25% from SR meaning you lose 50%switching in on heatran). It can also trap and kill rotom forms
 
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Gyarados is commonly used as a lure for electric attacks, in order to bring out something that can either a resist/immune or something like Electivire, so many players tend to be careful when slinging Thunderbolts at Gyarados. I actually also think Wacan has some use here. If your opponent sees that your Gyara has Wacan, (for example, allowing Gyara to be hit with an electric attack it can survive with Wacan) they're going to assume you don't have a safe switch in since the natural reaction with Gyarados is to switch it out when faced with a threatening electric attack. Then, when they go for the kill, you can get Electivire (or something else) in even more easily and lower the chance of your opponent predicting your switch.

Just remember that the Gyaravire tactic works only once. The second Electivire comes out, the jig is up. Keep your 'vire hidden for as long as possible to keep the potential surprise up.
 
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