Hail Team again (I'm addicted to it)

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It's been a long time since I posted my last Hail team for RMT. XD Anyway, I've been trying to come up with a better Hail team, especially with Tyranitar and Scizor being so common in competitive battling. Also, the occasional Jirachi annoys me a whole lot. So here is what I've come up with. It may need a little more tweaking, especially since this is the first time I've made an RMT without testing the team yet. I just had to imagine every worst case scenario I could think of during class. I'll need some help here. By the way, this team is for WiFi. So please no Rotom form suggestions. Thanks!

CHANGES ARE IN BOLD

The Team:
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General Description
At first glance, people might think, "Hey, this doesn't look like a Hail team!". If that's the case, then that's a good thing. Why? Because I don't want my opponents to think that this is a Hail team once I send in the first Pokemon. Basically, I will use only the first four Pokemon in the team and shuffle them around during battle, only releasing Abomasnow when it is necessary or when the time is right. Once Abomasnow is out, Walrein can play her part.

The primary goal for the team is to wear down the opponent, hopefully taking out at least most of the threats to Abomasnow and Walrein, before I send out the Hail.


Team Specifics:

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Gliscor@Leftovers
Jolly
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 206Hp, 88Att, 216Speed
Moveset:
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake
~ Roost
~ Fire Fang

Gliscor is the lead here. She sets up Stealth Rock on the first turn and then, depending on whatever the opponent's lead is, I switch out or attack. I wanted this Gliscor to be a multitasker, in the sense that she supports, walls, and counters. This one Pokemon is my answer to both Tyranitar and Scizor, and maybe even Jirachi (if it's the physical set); thus the attacks are EQ and Fire Fang. However, I'm thinking of repacing Roost with Stone Edge, in case I come across some flying types. I decided to stick with Roost. I think I may need the recovery. I also changed Gliscor's nature from Impish to Jolly so I can outrun Lucario.


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Tentacruel@Black Sludge
Calm
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252Hp, 220SpDef, 36Speed
Moveset:
~ Toxic Spikes
~ Rapid Spin
~ Surf
~ Blizzard

Does this Pokemon need any more explanation? XD She simply spikes and spins. Toxic spikes are a must, especially with Walrein waiting in line. Rapid spin is also necessary to take out pesky enemy Stealth Rocks. She's also pretty much a counter to Heatran and Mixed Infernape with the given EV spread. Surf is there for attacking purposes, of course. And Blizzard is for the dragons. It is a little risky though, especially when Tentacruel is going to be sent out before the Hail comes in. But then again, I may need Blizzard once Hail does set in.


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Celebi@Life Orb
Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 36Def, 252SpAtt, 220Speed
Moveset:
~ Grass Knot
~ Psychic
~ Hidden Power Fire
~ Recover

Celebi is a straightforward special attacker and can function as my status absorber with Natural Cure. Enemy Swamperts are irritating, so Grass Knot is here. I find it better than Leafstorm since there won't be any Special Attack reduction. Psychic is for the extra STAB and can hit some other Pokemon for neutral damage. Hidden Power Fire is there, just in case Scizor still prowls about. Recover is nice, especially since Celebi takes Life Orb damage and probably weather damage if Hail is in play.


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Clefable@Toxic Orb
Adamant
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252Hp, 128SpDef, 128Att
Moveset:
~ Facade
~ Wish
~ Thunderwave
~ Thunderpunch

I've changed Clefable's set from "mini Blissey" to a Facade one, with a few modifications. I wanted her to multitask like Gliscor, being able to provide Wish and Twave support while also being able to attack decently. I'm not sure if the EV spread is fine. But hopefully, this set will do well. Thunderpunch is there to kill the likes of Gyarados. I noticed I didn't have any electric moves in this team, so there.


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Abomasnow@Leftovers
Sassy
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252Hp, 238SpDef, 20SpAtt
Moveset:
~ Leech Seed
~ Wood Hammer
~ Blizzard
~ Protect

I can't pull off the typical Substitute-Seeder-Focus Punch Abomasnow for some reason. Maybe it's because I suck with it, but whatever. This Abomasnow is my favorite one. She takes neutral special attacks very well and I can use her to leech away some Hp with Leech Seed and Protect. With this set, I can use her as a lead if I want to, since her speed is very low and so I gain the weather advantage.


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Walrein@Leftovers
Bold
Ability: Ice Body
EVs: 220Hp, 244Def, 46Speed
Moveset:
~ Substitute
~ Roar
~ Protect
~ Surf

Everybody knows the infamous Stallrein. Here she is, in the flesh! XD Anyway, the strategy with her is typical. Substitute, Protect, Substitute, Protect, Substitute, Roar (if I want to play with the opponent), Substitute, Protect, Surf (if I feel like it)... And the cycle goes on. Walrein comes out only when Hail is in play. Hopefully, by this time, I've worn down my opponent's Pokemon with Gliscor, Tentacruel, Clefable, and Celebi, and I've taken out most of Abomasnow and Walrein's counters. Basically, my Ice Pokemon will only come out when the time is right.


Summary

I haven't tested this team yet, but I spent a whole lot of time trying to come up with a good Hail team that isn't too predictable. So I really made sure that I had another Pokemon lead instead of Abomasnow. Hopefully the team will work out okay when I play it on WiFi. I noticed though, that I lack a good Physical attacker. I wanted to put Swords Dance on Gliscor, but then I would lose Roost, which I don't know is a good idea or a bad idea. Then again, Gliscor can restore HP via Clefable's Wish. I really don't know which would work better.

Anyway, please help me out with this team. I don't know if it's okay or what. Suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks! XD
 
Ive made a couple of hail teams and the most effective Abomasnow I used was the Choice Scarf set:

Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf | Snow Warning
Hasty ( +Spd -Def )
140 Atk / 116 SpA / 252 Spe
•Blizzard
•Wood Hammer
•HP Fire
•Earthquake
This thing is pretty awesome. With CS you can revenge kill many Hail threats. The evs and nature give you as much speed as possible and a good balance in both physical and special attacking. Blizzard and Wood Hammer are a very threatening STAB combo. EQ and Hp Fire let you hit many Hail threats hard, like T-tar, Infernape, Lucario, ect.

If it is to hard for you to obtain Hp fire then just stay with the current Snowman set.

Clefable wants Protect over Ice Beam as you have enough Ice attacks.

Also where did you get those pics, they are so cool! I never knew tentacruel could look so hawt =P.
 
@Falcon Punch,
Interesting Abomasnow set. But wouldn't it get taken out right away but a bullet punch from Scizor? But I'll think about it. XD
And about the pics, I got them from a Japanese website. If you think Tentacruel is smexy, you should see Cloyster. She was the most suggestive one I've seen. Lol.
 
@Falcon Punch,
Interesting Abomasnow set. But wouldn't it get taken out right away but a bullet punch from Scizor? But I'll think about it. XD
And about the pics, I got them from a Japanese website. If you think Tentacruel is smexy, you should see Cloyster. She was the most suggestive one I've seen. Lol.
You can always switch out of a scizor. And can you give me the link to the web >:D plz.
 
I need more rates. ^^

I'm starting to think about Clefable's set. Should I make her an attacker too, or leave her as is? (Attacker as in the Facade set.)
 
Quick Rate: i prefer the Flameorb facade set on Clefable because once its out its pretty much unstopable in UU battles... idk about OU since i see alot more blisseys than anything like that but anyways

Nice hail team i like it without the aboma lead because that totally gives away the fact that its based around ice pokes..
 
first of all, you gotta love that pic of the walrien girl. Also, for your gliscor, i usally find that roost is useless as i mostly only end up using to PP stall and nothing more really, so i think stone edge could come in handy, like against the common aerodactyl lead that resist fire fang and avoid EQ.

oh and for the facade set, run with toxic orb to avoid the stat loss from the burn (i think) although i feel you could fit something else into that slot that could work better in your team, such as maybe froslass.
 
I'm really thinking about that offensive Clefable. This was suggested to me though:

Clefable@toxic orb
Adamant/jolly
Moveset:
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Facade
- Fire/Thunder Punch

Maybe she can be both defensive and offensive like my Gliscor? Wish for recovery to self and other Pokemon, T-wave for crippling, Facade for a nice hard hit with toxic orb, and maybe thunderpunch is better than fire punch. I can kill of some water types or maybe even Gyarados. I'm not so sure about the EV spread though, if I plan to make her multitask like Gliscor.

Or should I just leave Clefable as the mini blissey she is? ^^
 
I'm really thinking about that offensive Clefable. This was suggested to me though:

Clefable@toxic orb
Adamant/jolly
Moveset:
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Facade
- Fire/Thunder Punch

Maybe she can be both defensive and offensive like my Gliscor? Wish for recovery to self and other Pokemon, T-wave for crippling, Facade for a nice hard hit with toxic orb, and maybe thunderpunch is better than fire punch. I can kill of some water types or maybe even Gyarados. I'm not so sure about the EV spread though, if I plan to make her multitask like Gliscor.

Or should I just leave Clefable as the mini blissey she is? ^^

Agreeing with Styx switch it to the Facade set. Even though you may hate Blissey it is probably best not to use a mini Blissey set when you have access to Blissey itself.
 
If you want to be a real asshole (Yes, people that use this set are assholes) give it a focus sash and make it level 1, then use Protect, Encore, Endeavor, and Filler. Guarantees at least 1 kill per match (Endeavor + hail damage).
 
Interesting set, but I think I might need Clefable to last a little longer. XD

Anyway, maybe i'll just use the Facade one. So...


Clefable@toxic orb
Adamant
EVs: ?
Moveset:
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Facade
- Thunder Punch

EVs. This is the problem now. Should I go for max HP and max attack? Or max HP and then divide attack and sp def... I need help on this one.
 
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