I've got a friend who was home schooled till about grade six, and he says he worked way harder while he was being home schooled because his parents knew what his assignments were and when they were due. I think it more depends on how strict your parents are, since once you get to high school, teachers stop giving two shits about you. I have never been chased down by a teacher in highschool to hand something in. My parents would definitely not let me sit around playing video games if they knew I had an essay due next week.2. You need to have a lot more self discipline than 95% of teenagers have in order to stay on top of things. If you can have parents and siblings on your ass about assignments, it can help, but it's far too easy to sleep in and play Pokemon all day.
I'm saying if you are of Smogon age and are considering a fairly independent home school track you need self motivation or demanding parents.I've got a friend who was home schooled till about grade six, and he says he worked way harder while he was being home schooled because his parents knew what his assignments were and when they were due. I think it more depends on how strict your parents are, since once you get to high school, teachers stop giving two shits about you. I have never been chased down by a teacher in highschool to hand something in. My parents would definitely not let me sit around playing video games if they knew I had an essay due next week.
My mom (or in my case, online classes) is a far better teacher than those at my local public school.I am personally against homeschooling. A kid needs to be around other kids, it develops social skills which are good to have. Not to mention you are being taught by teachers with actual degrees. And who wants to be taught by your mom all day, I'll pass.
This is a fringe case, honestly. I feel in bad schools in urban areas, this is more likely to be the case, but I would rather pull my student out if this happens rather than homeschool as a preventative measure. If you have clinical depression, going to high school might not be the best thing for you !.Most homeschoolers get interaction with other kids through homeschool group field trips that are organized by parents. While I'm sure a few parents choose to sequester their children from all other interaction, this can be healthier for them than going to a public high school where weak, ineffectual administrators and hamstrung teachers let them get bullied until they commit suicide (or get murdered by the "special needs [read: criminally violent]" kid.
Again I want to say this is not the general case. Plenty of public schools don't suck.As far as comparisons to other forms of school, considering public school is a laughable failure and private school is often expensive (and public school unions oppose all attempts at establishing vouchers or charter schools to drive up the cost element), homeschooling can provide a quality education at a relatively low cost if you set it up properly.
good luck in life (Y)a person doesn't have to be social....
a person doesn't have to be social....
that would sure suck for thema person doesn't have to be social....
for someone who has never attended a public school, you sure have some pretty strong convictions about them.I was homeschooled through high school.
Most homeschoolers get interaction with other kids through homeschool group field trips that are organized by parents. While I'm sure a few parents choose to sequester their children from all other interaction, this can be healthier for them than going to a public high school where weak, ineffectual administrators and hamstrung teachers let them get bullied until they commit suicide (or get murdered by the "special needs [read: criminally violent]" kid.
Like all options, homeschooling has its advantages and its drawbacks, and the curriculum and activity involvement you choose are critical. If you can get one on one teaching with your child it makes a lot of difference. Some kids get into video curriculum and others have computer curriculum, but you really need to be a self-starter to do some of it.
As far as comparisons to other forms of school, considering public school is a laughable failure and private school is often expensive (and public school unions oppose all attempts at establishing vouchers or charter schools to drive up the cost element), homeschooling can provide a quality education at a relatively low cost if you set it up properly.
It isn't for everyone, but it should be encouraged, especially if you have a good system of checks and balances and know how to shop for curriculum and find other homeschoolers.
I, too, have attended a private school, a host of public schools of varying local repute, and done several different homeschool arrangements. Attending public or private school is really optimum imo. There are ways to be socially competent and not attend school, but it's considerably more difficult, since school is a structured social environment that really provides some formative lessons on interaction with other people. However, with that comes some pretty nasty things, which is why I don't think people should just insta-knock homeschooling -- in certain circumstances, it's a warranted alternative. I don't approve of homeschooling kids to shelter them from adverse influences, though it's none of my business, since if anything it will just result in an overly sheltered kid, but in cases where the child is ill, the parents travel a lot, or the child is bullied / extremely depressed, sometimes it's necessary. (In my case, I developed depression so badly I physically couldn't attend school without breaking down.)This is a fringe case, honestly. I feel in bad schools in urban areas, this is more likely to be the case, but I would rather pull my student out if this happens rather than homeschool as a preventative measure. If you have clinical depression, going to high school might not be the best thing for you !.
I feel the social interaction was not comparable and you can't really get that from field trips alone. Especially in the area of developing tolerance for others would I say it's a concern, as if you can't experience blacks, gays, etc. you may never learn that they're just like you and me!
(Nice Drifloon avatar!) This is absolutely true, but there are basic social skills to be taught that attending school with other kids teaches better than any other environment.a person doesn't have to be social....
a person doesn't have to be social....
good luck in life (Y)
You may laugh because it is assumed that a person has to be social, but how do you justify that assumption? Jumpluff is right about basic social skills being necessary (because it is impossible to get by with zero human interaction whatsoever) and about schools being very useful environments for this sort of thing, but it's not impossible to get these skills without attending a public or private school, and beyond the basic social skills, what else is necessary and why?that would sure suck for them
Yea all they need is the internet....a person doesn't have to be social....
This sums up all of my opinions on homeschooling. Another thing to consider is that the curriculum can sometimes be biased, if you're enrolled in something like a Christian homeschooling program. I started homeschooling this year and I noticed that all throughout the science and history textbooks there were notes about how God does this and God does that, and how he affected the outcome of certain things. Those notes really should have stayed with the Bible courses (of course this works both ways, it doesn't just apply to Christian homeschooling programs).With online classes and stuff, you'll probably learn more than you would in a public school, but homeschooling has serious drawbacks that people need to consider (I did homeschooling for two years).
1. Your social growth is basically stunted completely. Adding extracurriculars helps but in all seriousness being homeschooled doesn't really help with your social aptitude at all. You might just end up browsing internet forums and being a huge dick to everyone. Heh... If you do this, try to get in as many clubs and stuff as you can. I joined a FIRST Robotics team that took homeschoolers, as well as a Quiz Bowl team.
2. You need to have a lot more self discipline than 95% of teenagers have in order to stay on top of things. If you can have parents and siblings on your ass about assignments, it can help, but it's far too easy to sleep in and play Pokemon all day.
I have to agree with this. I've been homeschooled for 13 years, and I am social, I go to homeschooling groups, etc.I was homeschooled through high school.
Most homeschoolers get interaction with other kids through homeschool group field trips that are organized by parents. While I'm sure a few parents choose to sequester their children from all other interaction, this can be healthier for them than going to a public high school where weak, ineffectual administrators and hamstrung teachers let them get bullied until they commit suicide (or get murdered by the "special needs [read: criminally violent]" kid.
Like all options, homeschooling has its advantages and its drawbacks, and the curriculum and activity involvement you choose are critical. If you can get one on one teaching with your child it makes a lot of difference. Some kids get into video curriculum and others have computer curriculum, but you really need to be a self-starter to do some of it.
As far as comparisons to other forms of school, considering public school is a laughable failure and private school is often expensive (and public school unions oppose all attempts at establishing vouchers or charter schools to drive up the cost element), homeschooling can provide a quality education at a relatively low cost if you set it up properly.
It isn't for everyone, but it should be encouraged, especially if you have a good system of checks and balances and know how to shop for curriculum and find other homeschoolers.
Good points except for the one in bold. No other country in the world can offer so much to everyone (assuming you're in the USA). Public schools take every child, regardless of background, and give them a chance not just to learn, but to pursue a form of higher learning and to break from their previous lives. In public schools you get to meet people from every part of society (learn to deal with everyone, not just the rich and affluent), take college-level classes (AP, IB, and anything to promote everyone to learn), and gives the kids a positive environment in which to advance themselves. Our public schools have their shortcomings (exacerbated by NCLB and financial issues, sometimes related to NCLB), but they take the kids from the pits of society and give them a chance to do something with their lives. While other countries come close, they cannot match the level of success we have had with the poorer classes. I wanted to go to a private high school but my parents made me come up with a reason to shell out money. I tried to explain that I would get a better education there, but they pointed to the statistics, the classes offered, and the social opportunities and convinced me to stay in the public school system, without even mentioning finances. I couldn't be happier with my school and I have taken higher level classes than I could have at a private school.As far as comparisons to other forms of school, considering public school is a laughable failure and private school is often expensive (and public school unions oppose all attempts at establishing vouchers or charter schools to drive up the cost element), homeschooling can provide a quality education at a relatively low cost if you set it up properly.
It isn't for everyone, but it should be encouraged, especially if you have a good system of checks and balances and know how to shop for curriculum and find other homeschoolers.
Far more often that not, any random kid will want to be and be better served by it in life.a person doesn't have to be social....
the world at their fingertips.Yea all they need is the internet....
It's becoming less and less fringe. We just had a case in Massachusetts where a nice suburban town (South Hadley) had bullying problems and a girl committed suicide because it was so intense and followed her even when she went online. The schools tried to deflect blame, the Massachusetts Legislature drafted the same toothless drivel they always come up with to make it look like they're doing something, and what people actually cared about it are only in the position to do more paperwork to accomplish the same non-response.I feel I have a fairly unique perspective having participated in every major form of schooling in the US, so I'll bust chops for you guys :D
This is a fringe case, honestly. I feel in bad schools in urban areas, this is more likely to be the case, but I would rather pull my student out if this happens rather than homeschool as a preventative measure. If you have clinical depression, going to high school might not be the best thing for you !.
Nothing is going to make you more tolerant than hearing the black kids cluster together and say "Yo Niggaz my Niggaz what up Nigga!" and everyone else saying "lol that is so gay stop being a (BAN ME PLEASE)." Tolerance is generally taught by parents, not peers.I feel the social interaction was not comparable and you can't really get that from field trips alone. Especially in the area of developing tolerance for others would I say it's a concern, as if you can't experience blacks, gays, etc. you may never learn that they're just like you and me!
Perhaps, but even if you get lucky and go into the right neighborhood, public schools let down the people who are supposedly going to benefit from them the most. Anyway the thread is about homeschooling not public schooling so I'll cease, but it any event I don't think mass interaction in public schools is anything to write home about in and of itself. Plenty of people who go to schools are in the "out group" so the idea it's a guarantor of any social skills is suspect. Some people leave just as awkward as when they came in, possibly even more jaded. Sometimes the standards drop so low it might as well just be called day-care for teenagers.Again I want to say this is not the general case. Plenty of public schools don't suck.