Huge Power Groudon-Primal [GP 0/1]

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:sv/groudon-primal::choice-band:
[SET]
name: Choice Band Revenge Killer
move 1: Extreme Speed
move 2: Pursuit
move 3: Precipice Blades / Thousand Arrows
move 4: Water Shuriken / Ice Shard / Bullet Punch / Trick
item: Choice Band
ability: Huge Power
nature: Adamant
evs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD or 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its monstrous Attack stat, crazy bulk, Will-O-Wisp immunity, and lack of relative weaknesses, Choice Band Huge Power Primal Groudon is a powerful, if prediction-reliant, revenge killer. Extreme Speed is a reliable form of priority, OHKOing most Mega Mewtwo X, most Mega Rayquaza, and Shell Smash boosted Primal Groudon after slight chip. Pursuit is used to cover for Prankster Giratina, which if switching out is OHKOed after minor chip, as well as the aforementioned foes if they try to switch out. The third moveslot is used for a STAB move option, Precipice Blades OHKOes the omniprescent Giratina, and Thousand Arrows can instead be used to hit Flying-types, but at the cost of not OHKOing Giratina. Water Shuriken can be used to OHKO Primal Groudon, which is extremely bulky and commonly runs King's Shield, while Ice Shard hits heavily weakened Giratina before it can heal and the rare King's Shield Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza. Bullet Punch can be used over Water Shuriken to hit Fairy-type Wonder Guard Pokemon like Xerneas and Mega Gardevoir. All three moves also target Ghost-types, in particular the frail Mega Gengar. If running Ice Shard, at least 4 Speed EVs are recommended to hit opposing Prankster Giratina before it can heal. Trick can be used to cripple potential switch-ins to priority attacks, like Giratina, even if it must be wary of Precipice Blades, or passive Wonder Guard Pokemon such as Slaking and Primal Kyogre. Choice Band is utilized to net important KOs, such as against Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Rayquaza from full with Extreme Speed as well as Prankster Giratina with Pursuit, on switch-out.

Choice Band Huge Power Primal Groudon fits on teams, in particular teams that would appreciate its ability to threaten Pokemon like Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X and Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza not behind Substitute. Passive Wonder Guard users appreciate Primal Groudon's ability to force out the aforementioned Pokemon, while supporting Primal Groudon by clearing entry hazards, curing status, and switching into attacks from other foes that can survive a hit, like Focus Sash No Guard Deoxys-S and Mega Mewtwo Y, and healthy Huge Power Gyarados. As Primal Groudon cannot threaten most Wonder Guard users, Mold Breaker users, Huge Power and Shadow Tag Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios, and Wonder Guard Shell Smash sweepers like Mega Lucario and Mega Gardevoir are good options. Lastly, a secondary revenge killer, especially Pixilate Diancie with Boomburst, is useful due to their ability to set hazards and Groudon's inability to hit foes behind Substitute.

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[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Shell Smash Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a variety of moves that help it support its team and match up better against Giratina, such as Glare, Sacred Fire, Sheer Cold, U-Turn, and Knock Off. Earth Plate and Life Orb can improve damage rolls on Shell Smash sets. Choice Band sets can run various priority moves to revenge kill some offensive threats after chip damage. It can also run entry hazards to set up for better rolls later. More Speed EVs can be given to both Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets if they wish to outspeed a specific threat. Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a special set with Earth Plate + Judgment. Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can use various coverage moves to target specific Wonder Guard users. Recovery moves may also be used on Shadow Tag Primal Groudon for longevity. Surf may also be used to OHKO opposing Primal Groudon without needing to worry about damage rolls with Thousand Arrows. Revenge Killer Primal Groudon can run Mach Punch or Shadow Sneak to hit Wonder Guards like Mega Lucario and Deoxys-Attack, with the former also securing the OHKO on unboosted Mega Tyranitar, but has no uses outside of this. Primal Groudon can run a support Wonder Guard set, with Thousand Arrows or Sacred Fire, Defog, Aromatherapy, and Recover, with a physically defensive spread. Primal Groudon can also opt for a Substitute + Baton Pass Wonder Guard set, with Substitute, Shell Smash, Thousand Arrows, and Baton Pass and 56 Speed EVs, allowing it to outspeed Choice Scarf Primal Groudon after a Shell Smash use.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Prankster Giratina**: Prankster Giratina uses its immense bulk to severely diminish Primal Groudon's offensive presence with Glare and force Shell Smash sweeper variants out with Encore. However, it can be hindered through with Dark Void from Shell Smash variants, Beat Up from Choice Band variants, Trick from Shadow Tag + Choice Scarf variants, Precipice Blades, Thousand Arrows, or Pursuit from Choice Band Huge Power variants.

**Imposter Users**: The strong neutral coverage of Thousand Arrows makes Imposter users able to easily countersweep if they copy a boosted Primal Groudon. Choice Band and Shadow Tag variants are both forced out by Imposter as well. Primal Groudon sets with Dark Void are more susceptible to countersweeps because they can then deal with a healthy Giratina. Choice Scarf Imposter users are more manageable, as they are forced to choose only one move.

**Huge Power Mega Gyarados**: Huge Power Mega Gyarados can OHKO Primal Groudon with 3 hit Water Shuriken and deal immense damage to it with Pursuit if it switches. It needs to be wary of using Pursuit as Mold Breaker Primal Groudon uses King's Shield, however.

**Other Revenge Killers**: Many -ate Speed users and Huge Power revenge killers can force unboosted Mold Breaker Primal Groudon out with their priority attacks. However, many of these fail to revenge kill Primal Groudon if it runs King's Shield. Some Choice Scarf + No Guard users, like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-S, outspeed any Primal Groudon even after a Shell Smash and can OHKO it. Additionally, Choice Scarf + Shadow Tag users, like Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo Y, can outspeed many Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets and OHKO it with a special Water-type move. Gale Wings Mega Rayquaza can OHKO boosted Primal Groudon sets with Choice Specs Oblivion Wing. However, Choice Band Huge Power sets can OHKO other revenge killers if they aren't using a faster priority move that threaten to KOes Primal-Groudon.

**Faster Hard Hitters**: In a one-on-one scenario, faster Pokemon that are sufficiently strong, such as Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios with Grass Knot or Earth Power, and Choice Specs Mega Mewtwo Y or Mega Rayquaza, can force Primal Groudon out. Some Shell Smash + Wonder Guard users, such as Xerneas, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Lucario can OHKO Primal Groudon if boosted. However, these Wonder Guard Sweepers must be careful of Huge Power Primal Groudon's priority, as the former two are removed by Bullet Punch, and the latter is OHKOed by Mach Punch

**Water-type Coverage**: Pokemon that Primal Groudon often switches in on, like Xerneas, Wonder Guard Mega Mewtwo Y, and Mega Manectric, can run Water-type moves to catch it off guard and OHKO it.

**Wonder Guard**: Huge Power and Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can sometimes get walled by opposing Wonder Guard users if they lack the coverage to hit them. However, Mold Breaker variants can hit them without worry, and Huge Power Primal Groudon can trap the Pokemon switching out with Pursuit.
 
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:sv/groudon-primal::choice-band:
[SET]
name: Choice Band Revenge Killer
move 1: Extreme Speed
move 2: Pursuit
move 3: Precipice Blades / Thousand Arrows / V-create v-create is unnecessary imo since precipice/arrows are either enough or the opposing mon resists fire
move 4: Water Shuriken / Ice Shard / more useful than bullet punch i think Bullet Punch / Trick
item: Choice Band
ability: Huge Power
nature: Adamant
evs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its monstrous Attack stat, crazy bulk, Will-O-Wisp immunity, good STAB combo, stab is just a minor positive imo (much of the time you'd run something to nail gira anyway) and relative lack of weaknesses great defensive typing better communicates what supports this set, Choice Band Huge Poewr Primal Groudon becomeis a powerful, if prediction-reliant, revenge killer when equipped with a Choice Band. Extreme Speed is a reliable form of priority, OHKOing most Mega Mewtwo X, most Mega Rayquaza, and Shell Smash boosted Primal Groudon after slight chip heavily threatening Mold Breaker Shell Smash boosted Pokemon like Primal Groudon, Mega Latios, and Xerneas reworded + lati/xern commonly run kings so not the best examples. Pursuit is used to cover for Prankster Giratina, which if switching out is OHKOed after minor chip, this is half the reason why you're running the move Ghost-types like Mega Gengar and Psychic-type Wonder Guards like Cresselia, Mega Mewtwo Y, and Meloetta, as well as the foes Mold Breaker sweepers mentioned above if they try to switch out. The third moveslot is used for a STAB move option., Precipice Blades OHKOes the omnipresent Giratina for a strong Ground-type option, and Thousand Arrows can instead be used for the ability to hit Flying-types at the cost of not OHKOing Giratina, but with less power, and V-create can be used for a powerful Fire-type STAB option, but the drawback is quite large. Water Shuriken can be used to OHKO Primal Groudon, which is extremely bulky and commonly runs King's Shield, hit the rare Wonder Guard Primal Groudon, as well as OHKOing other Primal Groudon variants, while Ice Shard hits heavily weakened Giratina and the rare King's Shield Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza and added ice shard bc it's probably better than bullet punch but Bullet Punch can hit Wonder Guard Pokemon like Xerneas and Mega Gardevoir. All three moves also target Ghost-types, in particular the frail Mega Gengar. If running Ice Shard, at least 4 Speed EVs are recommended to hit opposing Prankster Giratina before it can recover., and Trick can be used to cripple Shell Smash sweepers like the aforementioned Primal Groudon and Xerneas, counters potential switch-ins to priority attacks, like Giratina, and passive Wonder Guard Pokemon like Slaking and Xerneas Arceus personal preference but it's best to list wgs with differing weaknesses when naming multiple examples. Choice Band is utilized to net important KOs, such as against Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Rayquaza from full with Extreme Speed as well as slightly chipped Prankster Giratina with Pursuit., as Primal Groudon appreciates the immediate power boost given in Choice Band. An Adamant Nature along with the EV spread above is used, due to this sets excessive use of priority, Speed isn't desired. to my knowledge max/max ev spreads don't need a sentence

Revenge Killer Choice Band Huge Power
Primal Groudon fits on multiple types of teams, in particular especially Primal Groudon spam teams ands well as teams that would appreciate its ability to threaten Mold Breaker + Shell Smash Pokemon like Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X and Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza not behind Substitute Primal Groudon, Xerneas, and Arceus all three of these commonly run kings. Therefore pPassive Wonder Guard users appreciate Primal Groudon's ability to force out the aforementioned Pokemon above, while supporting Primal Groudon by clearing entry hazards, curing status, and switching into attacks from other revenge killers foes that survive a hit, like Focus Sash No Guard Deoxys-S and healthy Huge Power Mega Gyarados. Shadow Tag Primal Groudon and Mega Mewtwo X, pdon dies to shuriken and mmx dies to espeed if not enough bulk investment and passing Substitutes and Shell Smash boosts via Baton Pass. not particularly when pdon often has switchins in wg users Despite Primal Groudon's large coverage, it has severe 4MSS, which means that it can't hit every Wonder Guard in the game. Therefore, Pokemon with a lot of coverage options, such as As Primal Groudon cannot threaten most Wonder Guard users, Huge Power and Shadow Tag Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios, and Wonder Guard Shell Smash sweepers like Genesect shitmon and Mega Gardevoir are good options. Mold Breaker users, like Mega Rayquaza and Primal Groudon, also appreciate Groudon's ability to trap opposing Giratina and revenge killers with Pursuit. Even thought Primal Groudon can read around it with Pursuit, Prankster Giratina can threaten it with priority status, since it is unaffected by Extreme Speed. this by itself doesn't really help Lastly, a secondary revenge killer, especially Pixilate Diancie with Boomburst, is useful due to their ability to set hazards and Groudon's inability to hit foes behind Substitute.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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Quality checked by:
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Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user5.104/

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Shell Smash Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a variety of moves that help it support its team and match up better against Giratina, such as Glare, Sacred Fire, Sheer Cold, U-Turn, and Knock Off. Earth Plate and Life Orb can improve damage rolls on Shell Smash sets. Choice Band Ssets can run various priority moves to revenge kill some offensive threats after chip damage. It can also run entry hazards to set up for better rolls later. More Speed EVs can be given to both Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets if they wish to outspeed a specific threat. Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a special set with Earth Plate + Judgment. Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can use various coverage moves to target specific Wonder Guard users. Recovery moves may also be used on Shadow Tag Primal Groudon for longevity. Surf may also be used to OHKO opposing Primal Groudon without needing to worry about damage rolls with Thousand Arrows. Revenge Killer Primal Groudon can run Mach Punch or Shadow Sneak to hit Wonder Guards like Mega Lucario and Deoxys-Attack, with the former also securing and also to secure the OHKO on unboosted Mega Tyranitar, but has no uses outside of this.

Primal Groudon can run a support Wonder Guard set, with Thousand Arrows or Sacred Fire, Defog, Aromatherapy, and Recover, with a physically defensive spread. Primal Groudon can also opt for a Substitute + Baton Pass Wonder Guard set, with Substitute, Shell Smash, Thousand Arrows, and Baton Pass and 56 Speed EVs, allowing it to outspeed Choice Scarf Primal Groudon after a Shell Smash use. no clue why wg don isn't mentioned here at all, not your fault

Checks and Counters
===================

**Prankster Giratina**: Prankster Giratina uses its immense bulk to severely diminish Primal Groudon's offensive presence with Glare and force Shell Smash sweeper variants out with Encore. However, it can be hindered or KOed through with Dark Void from Shell Smash variants, Beat Up from Choice Band variants, and Trick from Shadow Tag + Choice Scarf variants, and Pursuit, Precipice Blades, or Thousand Arrows from Choice Band Huge Power variants.

**Imposter Users**: The strong neutral coverage of Thousand Arrows makes Imposter users able to easily countersweep if they copy a boosted Mold Breaker Primal Groudon. Choice Band and Shadow Tag variants are both forced out by Imposter as well. Primal Groudon sets with Dark Void are more susceptible to countersweeps because they can then deal with a healthy Giratina. Choice Scarf Imposter users are more manageable, as they are forced to choose only one move.

**Huge Power Mega Gyarados**: Huge Power Mega Gyarados can OHKO Primal Groudon not running bulk with 3 hit Water Shuriken at this point most pdons run bulk and deal immense damage to it with Pursuit if it switches. It needs to be wary of using Pursuit as Mold Breaker Primal Groudon uses King's Shield, however.

**Other Revenge Killers**: Many -ate Speed users and Huge Power revenge killers can force unboosted Mold Breaker Primal Groudon clearer to the reader imo out with their priority attacks. However, many of these fail to revenge kill Primal Groudon if it runs King's Shield. Some Choice Scarf + No Guard users, like Mega Mewtwo Y (add space) and Deoxys-S, outspeed any Primal Groudon even after a Shell Smash and can OHKO it. Additionally, Choice Scarf + Shadow Tag users, like Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo Y, can outspeed many Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets and OHKO it with a special Water-type move. Gale Wings Mega Rayquaza can OHKO boosted Primal Groudon sets with Choice Specs Oblivion Wing.

**Faster Hard Hitters**: In a one-on-one scenario, faster Pokemon that are sufficiently strong, such as Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios with Grass Knot or Earth Power, and Choice Specs Mega Mewtwo Y or Mega Rayquaza, can force Primal Groudon out. Some Shell Smash + Wonder Guard users, such as Xerneas, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Lucario can OHKO Primal Groudon if boosted. However, these Wonder Guard Sweepers must be careful of Huge Power Primal Groudon's priority, as the former two die to Bullet Punch, and the former two are removed by Bullet Punch, Gardevoir loses to the occasional Shadow Sneak, and the latter dies to the rare Mach Punch.

**Water-type Coverage**: Pokemon that Primal Groudon often switches in on, like Xerneas, Wonder Guard Mega Mewtwo Y, and Mega Manectric, can run Water-type moves to catch it off guard and OHKO it.

**Wonder Guard**: Huge Power and Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can sometimes get walled by opposing Wonder Guard users if they lack the coverage to hit them. However, Mold Breaker variants can hit them without worry, and Huge Power Primal Groudon can trap the Pokemon switching out with Pursuit.
for the future i'd read over the analysis before listing it as ready for qc, since there were a few grammatical mistakes that i think would've been apparent that way. 1/2
 

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[SET]
name: Choice Band Revenge Killer
move 1: Extreme Speed
move 2: Pursuit
move 3: Precipice Blades / Thousand Arrows
move 4: Water Shuriken / Ice Shard / Bullet Punch / Trick
item: Choice Band
ability: Huge Power
nature: Adamant
evs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD or 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Thanks to its monstrous Attack stat, crazy bulk, Will-O-Wisp immunity, and lack of relative weaknesses, Choice Band Huge Power Primal Groudon is a powerful, if prediction-reliant, revenge killer. Extreme Speed is a reliable form of priority, OHKOing most Mega Mewtwo X, most Mega Rayquaza, and Shell Smash boosted Primal Groudon after slight chip. Pursuit is used to cover for Prankster Giratina, which if switching out is OHKOed after minor chip, as well as the foes mentioned above aforementioned foes if they try to switch out. The third moveslot is used for a STAB move option, Precipice Blades OHKOes the omniprescent Giratina, and Thousand Arrows can instead be used for the ability to hit Flying-types, but at the cost of not OHKOing Giratina. Water Shuriken can be used to OHKO Primal Groudon, which is extremely bulky and commonly runs King's Shield, while Ice Shard hits heavily weakened Giratina before it can heal, and the rare King's Shield Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza. and Bullet Punch can be used over Water Shuriken to hit Fairy-Type Wonder Guard Pokemon like Xerneas and Mega Gardevoir. All three moves also target Ghost-types, in particular the frail Mega Gengar. If running Ice Shard, at least 4 Speed EVs are recommended to hit opposing Prankster Giratina before it can recover heal. Trick can be used to cripple potential switch-ins to priority attacks, like Giratina, even if it must be warry of Precipice Blades, or passive Wonder Guard Pokemon like such as (This one is fine, i'm just avoiding to use "like" every line) Slaking and Primal Kyogre. Choice Band is utilized to net important KOs, such as against Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Rayquaza from full with Extreme Speed as well as slightly chipped Prankster Giratina with Pursuit, on switch-out (you don't get the KO if Giratina Stay in).

Choice Band Huge Power Primal Groudon fits on multiple types of teams, in particular Primal Groudon spam teams and teams that would appreciate its ability to threaten Pokemon like Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X and Mold Breaker Mega Rayquaza not behind Substitute. Passive Wonder Guard users appreciate Primal Groudon's ability to force out the aforementioned Pokemon, while supporting Primal Groudon by clearing entry hazards, curing status, and switching into attacks from other foes that can survive a hit, like Focus Sash No Guard Deoxys-S, and Mega Mewtwo Y, and healthy Huge Power Gyarados. As Primal Groudon cannot threateb threaten (typo) most Wonder Guard users, Mold Breaker users, (It does years the most common way to beat Wonder Guard is using Mold Breakers like Pdon or Mray, and i don't see it anywhere :( ) Huge Power and Shadow Tag Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios, and Wonder Guard Shell Smash sweepers like Mega Lucario and Mega Gardevoir are good options. Lastly, a secondary revenge killer, especially Pixilate Mega-Diancie with Boomburst, is useful due to their ability to set hazards and Groudon's inability to hit foes behind Substitute.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lord-fernado.629794/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/aerobee.515077/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/rl.554093/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/user5.104/

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Shell Smash Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a variety of moves that help it support its team and match up better against Giratina, such as Glare, Sacred Fire, Sheer Cold, U-Turn, and Knock Off. Earth Plate and Life Orb can improve damage rolls on Shell Smash sets. Choice Band sets can run various priority moves to revenge kill some offensive threats after chip damage. It can also run entry hazards to set up for better rolls later. More Speed EVs can be given to both Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets if they wish to outspeed a specific threat. Mold Breaker Primal Groudon can run a special set with Earth Plate + Judgment. Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can use various coverage moves to target specific Wonder Guard users. Recovery moves may also be used on Shadow Tag Primal Groudon for longevity. Surf may also be used to OHKO opposing Primal Groudon without needing to worry about damage rolls with Thousand Arrows. Revenge Killer Primal Groudon can run Mach Punch or Shadow Sneak to hit Wonder Guards like Mega Lucario and Deoxys-Attack, with the former also securing the OHKO on unboosted Mega Tyranitar, but has no uses outside of this. Primal Groudon can run a support Wonder Guard set, with Thousand Arrows or Sacred Fire, Defog, Aromatherapy, and Recover, with a physically defensive spread. Primal Groudon can also opt for a Substitute + Baton Pass Wonder Guard set, with Substitute, Shell Smash, Thousand Arrows, and Baton Pass and 56 Speed EVs, allowing it to outspeed Choice Scarf Primal Groudon after a Shell Smash use.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Prankster Giratina**: Prankster Giratina uses its immense bulk to severely diminish Primal Groudon's offensive presence with Glare and force Shell Smash sweeper variants out with Encore. However, it can be hindered through with Dark Void from Shell Smash variants, Beat Up from Choice Band variants, Trick from Shadow Tag + Choice Scarf variants, and Pursuit, Precipice Blades, or Thousand Arrows and Precipice Blades, Thousand Arrows, and Pursuit (Just getting the moves in the right order) from Choice Band Huge Power variants.

**Imposter Users**: The strong neutral coverage of Thousand Arrows makes Imposter users able to easily countersweep if they copy a boosted Primal Groudon. Choice Band and Shadow Tag variants are both forced out by Imposter as well. Primal Groudon sets with Dark Void are more susceptible to countersweeps because they can then deal with a healthy Giratina. Choice Scarf Imposter users are more manageable, as they are forced to choose only one move.

**Huge Power Mega Gyarados**: Huge Power Mega Gyarados can OHKO Primal Groudon with 3 hit Water Shuriken and deal immense damage to it with Pursuit if it switches. It needs to be wary of using Pursuit as Mold Breaker Primal Groudon uses King's Shield, however.

**Other Revenge Killers**: Many -ate Speed users and Huge Power revenge killers can force unboosted Mold Breaker Primal Groudon out with their priority attacks. However, many of these fail to revenge kill Primal Groudon if it runs King's Shield. Some Choice Scarf + No Guard users, like Mega Mewtwo Y and Deoxys-S, outspeed any Primal Groudon even after a Shell Smash and can OHKO it. Additionally, Choice Scarf + Shadow Tag users, like Mega Rayquaza and Mega Mewtwo Y, can outspeed many Mold Breaker Primal Groudon sets and OHKO it with a special Water-type move. Gale Wings Mega Rayquaza can OHKO boosted Primal Groudon sets with Choice Specs Oblivion Wing. However, Choice Band Huge Power sets can OHKO other revenge killers if they aren't using a faster priority move that threaten to KOes Primal-Groudon.

**Faster Hard Hitters**: In a one-on-one scenario, faster Pokemon that are sufficiently strong, such as Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X, Protean Mega Latios with Grass Knot or Earth Power, and Choice Specs Mega Mewtwo Y or Mega Rayquaza, can force Primal Groudon out. Some Shell Smash + Wonder Guard users, such as Xerneas, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Lucario can OHKO Primal Groudon if boosted. However, these Wonder Guard Sweepers must be careful of Huge Power Primal Groudon's priority, as the former two are removed by die to Bullet Punch, and the former two are removed by Bullet Punch, and the latter is OHKOed by the rare Mach Punch. Mega Gardevoir loses to the occasional Shadow Sneak, and the latter dies to the rare Mach Punch.

**Water-type Coverage**: Pokemon that Primal Groudon often switches in on, like Xerneas, Wonder Guard Mega Mewtwo Y, and Mega Manectric, can run Water-type moves to catch it off guard and OHKO it.

**Wonder Guard**: Huge Power and Shadow Tag Primal Groudon can sometimes get walled by opposing Wonder Guard users if they lack the coverage to hit them. However, Mold Breaker variants can hit them without worry, and Huge Power Primal Groudon can trap the Pokemon switching out with Pursuit.

Took me longer because of terrible headache but here we are, QC 2/2
 
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