BH I saw a deer today (ting) [DONE]

[Notgamingreally]

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover / Strength Sap
- Salt Cure / Parting Shot
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages its typing, massive defensive stats, and ability to counter Final Gambit Lunala to find use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Fur Coat allows Ting-Lu to counter threats like Mega Garchomp, Ho-Oh, and Arceus-Ghost. Knock Off forces progress, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt Cure's residual damage limits Take Heart Arceus formes' ability to set up in front of Ting-Lu and reduces its passivity, while Parting Shot can still deal with Pokemon such as Arceus-Ghost when in combination with a revenge killer like Mega Alakazam. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Covert Cloak protects Ting-Lu from Mortal Spin and Salt Cure. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a good blanket physical wall and Simple Ghost-type answer. Ting-Lu struggles against Mega Lucario and Ash-Greninja, so backup checks like Fur Coat Celesteela are mandatory. Imposter-proof Ting-Lu with Knock Off absorbers like Arceus formes; Magic Bounce can also be useful against Parting Shot variants.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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Quality checked by:
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Grammar checked by:
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[Notgamingreally]

Ready for qc

 

[Chessking345]

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QC 1

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak Should be a line on why this is chosen
Ability: Magic Bounce / Fur Coat After further discussion we have concluded that Bounce is not a real set and thus can be dropped
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover slash sap, can be 2nd slash, its not terrible to use sap on it
- Salt Cure slash pivoting, significantly easier to improof and with combination of topsy + a rk you can still deal with stuff like ghostceus
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages it’s typing and balanced stats this kind of undersells 155 125 bulk btw, bulkier than mbro and not 2hkoed by +1 chomp is no joke to get use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Magic Bounce allows Ting-Lu to block Strength Sap and reflect status moves like Will-O-Wisp, Glare, and Spikes. Fur Coat instead allows Ting-Lu to check threats like Mega Garchomp and Blacephalon, and softens damage from Arceus-Ghost using Triple Arrows or Secret Sword. With dropped Bounce can adjust previous stuff to reflect only FC set, mention checking offensive hooh and lunala as well (blace is pretty irrel compared to these), can also use counter here because these mons actually have no way of remotely getting past a reasonably health ting. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt Cure allows Ting-Lu to damage Arceus formes holding a plate kind of damages them in general and this line can definitely be expanded, like mentioning actually forcing stuff out. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a way to handle common bulky attackers and bring progress. Fur Coat variants struggle against Mega Lucario and Ash Greninja, therefore secondary checks like Miraidon good example against the two listed but... you are also weak to korai and kyub which ting also falters against, would change the example are helpful. Imposter proofing Ting-Lu can be difficult, however Regenerator users can help and Magic Guard Pokemon like Palkia-O and Blissey very poor improof when you are taking like 30 from knock, also incomplete sentence.

Btw we've also discussed re: AV ting and it's writeable so if you still want to write that one you can

 

[Notgamingreally]

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QC 1

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak Should be a line on why this is chosen
Ability: Magic Bounce / Fur Coat After further discussion we have concluded that Bounce is not a real set and thus can be dropped
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover slash sap, can be 2nd slash, its not terrible to use sap on it
- Salt Cure slash pivoting, significantly easier to improof and with combination of topsy + a rk you can still deal with stuff like ghostceus
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages it’s typing and balanced stats this kind of undersells 155 125 bulk btw, bulkier than mbro and not 2hkoed by +1 chomp is no joke to get use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Magic Bounce allows Ting-Lu to block Strength Sap and reflect status moves like Will-O-Wisp, Glare, and Spikes. Fur Coat instead allows Ting-Lu to check threats like Mega Garchomp and Blacephalon, and softens damage from Arceus-Ghost using Triple Arrows or Secret Sword. With dropped Bounce can adjust previous stuff to reflect only FC set, mention checking offensive hooh and lunala as well (blace is pretty irrel compared to these), can also use counter here because these mons actually have no way of remotely getting past a reasonably health ting. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt Cure allows Ting-Lu to damage Arceus formes holding a plate kind of damages them in general and this line can definitely be expanded, like mentioning actually forcing stuff out. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a way to handle common bulky attackers and bring progress. Fur Coat variants struggle against Mega Lucario and Ash Greninja, therefore secondary checks like Miraidon good example against the two listed but... you are also weak to korai and kyub which ting also falters against, would change the example are helpful. Imposter proofing Ting-Lu can be difficult, however Regenerator users can help and Magic Guard Pokemon like Palkia-O and Blissey very poor improof when you are taking like 30 from knock, also incomplete sentence.

Btw we've also discussed re: AV ting and it's writeable so if you still want to write that one you can

Implemented, also ting has mildly lower bulk then mega slowbro

 

[Tea Guzzler]

Notgamingreally, post: 10108066, member: 658705

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Relaxed Nature ? either relaxed min speed or impish 252
- Knock Off
- Recover / Strength Sap
- Salt Cure / Parting Shot
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages it’s its typing and massive defensive stats to get use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Fur Coat allows Ting-Lu to counter threats like Mega Garchomp and offensive Ho-Oh, and softens damage from Arceus-Ghost using Triple Arrows or Secret Sword, Ting-Lu can also counter Lunala while not being blown up by Final Gambit , (ac) Ho-Oh, (ac) and Arceus-Ghost, and it can also counter Final Gambit Lunala. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt Cure allows Ting-Lu to damage Arceus formes holding a plate Salt cure's residual damage limits Take Heart Arceus formes' ability to set up in front of Ting-Lu and reduces Ting-Lu's its passivity, while Parting Shot can still deal with Pokemon such as Arceus-Ghost when in combination with a revenge killer like Mega Alakazam. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Covert Cloak protects Ting-Lu from Mortal Spin and Salt Cure. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a way to handle common bulky attackers and bring progress a good blanket physical wall and Simple Ghost-type answer. Fur Coat variants struggle against Mega Lucario and Ash Greninja, therefore secondary checks like Miraidon and Mega Slowbro are helpful Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario both fold Ting-Lu flat, so backup checks like Fur Coat Celesteela are mandatory. Imposter proofing Ting-Lu can be difficult, however Regenerator users can help and Magic Guard Pokemon like Palkia-O and Arceus-Ghost can take both Knock Off and Salt Cure, Parting Shot variants can be Imposter proofed by any Knock Off absorber. Imposter-proof Ting-Lu with Knock Off absorbers like Arceus formes; Magic Bounce can also be useful against Parting Shot variants.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/notgamingreally.658705/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/chessking345.355040/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/tea-guzzler.577920/
Grammar checked by:

qc 2/2

 

[Notgamingreally]

Notgamingreally, post: 10108066, member: 658705

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Relaxed Nature ? either relaxed min speed or impish 252
- Knock Off
- Recover / Strength Sap
- Salt Cure / Parting Shot
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages it’s its typing and massive defensive stats to get use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Fur Coat allows Ting-Lu to counter threats like Mega Garchomp and offensive Ho-Oh, and softens damage from Arceus-Ghost using Triple Arrows or Secret Sword, Ting-Lu can also counter Lunala while not being blown up by Final Gambit , (ac) Ho-Oh, (ac) and Arceus-Ghost, and it can also counter Final Gambit Lunala. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt Cure allows Ting-Lu to damage Arceus formes holding a plate Salt cure's residual damage limits Take Heart Arceus formes' ability to set up in front of Ting-Lu and reduces Ting-Lu's its passivity, while Parting Shot can still deal with Pokemon such as Arceus-Ghost when in combination with a revenge killer like Mega Alakazam. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Covert Cloak protects Ting-Lu from Mortal Spin and Salt Cure. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a way to handle common bulky attackers and bring progress a good blanket physical wall and Simple Ghost-type answer. Fur Coat variants struggle against Mega Lucario and Ash Greninja, therefore secondary checks like Miraidon and Mega Slowbro are helpful Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario both fold Ting-Lu flat, so backup checks like Fur Coat Celesteela are mandatory. Imposter proofing Ting-Lu can be difficult, however Regenerator users can help and Magic Guard Pokemon like Palkia-O and Arceus-Ghost can take both Knock Off and Salt Cure, Parting Shot variants can be Imposter proofed by any Knock Off absorber. Imposter-proof Ting-Lu with Knock Off absorbers like Arceus formes; Magic Bounce can also be useful against Parting Shot variants.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/notgamingreally.658705/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/chessking345.355040/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/tea-guzzler.577920/
Grammar checked by:

qc 2/2

Implemented Ty GP Team

 

[Gambit]

amcheck, implement if you'd like
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[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover / Strength Sap
- Salt Cure / Parting Shot
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages its typing and massive defensive stats its typing, massive defensive stats, and ability to counter Final Gambit Lunala to get find use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Fur Coat allows Ting-Lu to counter threats like Mega Garchomp, Ho-Oh, and Arceus-Ghost, and it can also counter Final Gambit Lunala. I moved this up to the beginning since its feels weird to have it in the fur coat sentence since lunala is a special attacker, though it might be fine to stay. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt cure's Cure's residual damage limits Take Heart Arceus formes' ability to set up in front of Ting-Lu and reduces its passivity, while Parting Shot can still deal with Pokemon such as Arceus-Ghost when in combination with a revenge killer like Mega Alakazam. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Covert Cloak protects Ting-Lu from Mortal Spin and Salt Cure. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a good blanket physical wall and Simple Ghost-type answer. Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario both fold Ting-Lu flat, Ting-Lu struggles with Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario, I have no idea what "fold flat" means so backup checks like Fur Coat Celesteela are mandatory. Imposter-proof Ting-Lu with Knock Off absorbers like Arceus formes; Magic Bounce can also be useful against Parting Shot variants.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/notgamingreally.658705/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/chessking345.355040/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/tea-guzzler.577920/

 

[Notgamingreally]

amcheck, implement if you'd like
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amcheck

[SET]
Defensive (Ting-Lu) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover / Strength Sap
- Salt Cure / Parting Shot
- Topsy-Turvy

[SET COMMENTS]
Ting-Lu leverages its typing and massive defensive stats its typing, massive defensive stats, and ability to counter Final Gambit Lunala to get find use as a reasonable utility Pokemon. Fur Coat allows Ting-Lu to counter threats like Mega Garchomp, Ho-Oh, and Arceus-Ghost, and it can also counter Final Gambit Lunala. I moved this up to the beginning since its feels weird to have it in the fur coat sentence since lunala is a special attacker, though it might be fine to stay. Knock Off forces progress well, removing items from foes such as Mega Audino. Salt cure's Cure's residual damage limits Take Heart Arceus formes' ability to set up in front of Ting-Lu and reduces its passivity, while Parting Shot can still deal with Pokemon such as Arceus-Ghost when in combination with a revenge killer like Mega Alakazam. Topsy-Turvy neutralizes setup threats like Arceus-Ghost and Mega Garchomp. Covert Cloak protects Ting-Lu from Mortal Spin and Salt Cure. Ting-Lu best fits on teams looking for a good blanket physical wall and Simple Ghost-type answer. Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario both fold Ting-Lu flat, Ting-Lu struggles with Ash-Greninja and Mega Lucario, I have no idea what "fold flat" means so backup checks like Fur Coat Celesteela are mandatory. Imposter-proof Ting-Lu with Knock Off absorbers like Arceus formes; Magic Bounce can also be useful against Parting Shot variants.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/notgamingreally.658705/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/chessking345.355040/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/tea-guzzler.577920/

Implemented ty

 

[sunny004]

I have no further changes from the amcheck, please credit Gambit_Gamin and I. 1/1 GP Team done

 

[Notgamingreally]

Cool done and ready for upload!