I just find that Ferrothorn doesn't need protect as much as he needs seeds, an entry hazard, and two attacks, but that's just my opinion. I can see how protect might look nice on paper, but in practicality it doesn't help him much seeing as his STABs work great together but alone they kinda suck, and with Ferrothorn being the set up fodder that he is I just think it can sometimes turn dangerous. But like I said that's just my opinion.
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I see what you mean, but as I said, I'll playtest your suggestions after I've finished testing mine against common OU threats.
Battle between Hyuga and NightSlasher started!
Tier: DW OU
Mode: Singles
Variation: +20, -12
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
NightSlasher sent out Serperior!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Start of turn 1
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
Start of turn 2
Serperior used Hidden Power!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 3
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 4
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
Serperior ate its Petaya Berry!
The Petaya Berry raised Serperior's Sp. Att.!
Serperior's Sp. Att. rose!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 5
Serperior used Leaf Storm!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 38% of its health!
Serperior's Sp. Att. sharply fell!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior lost 73 HP! (25% of its health)
Serperior fainted!
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
Start of turn 6
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
The attack of the foe's Nurse Joy missed!
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 7
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Start of turn 8
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's super effective!
Ferrothorn lost 260 HP! (73% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Anubis lost 36% of its health!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 9
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 10
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 11
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Ferrothorn lost 82 HP! (23% of its health)
Ferrothorn flinched!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
VIP T is watching the battle.
Start of turn 12
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 13
NightSlasher called Ferrothorn back!
NightSlasher sent out Tentacruel!
The foe's Wyrm used Heat Wave!
It's not very effective...
Tentacruel lost 35 HP! (9% of its health)
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 14
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes!
Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Hyuga's team!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 15
NightSlasher called Tentacruel back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
The foe's Mystery used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Slowbro lost 65 HP! (16% of its health)
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 16
The foe's Mystery used Rapid Spin!
Slowbro lost 9 HP! (2% of its health)
The foe's Mystery blew away Toxic Spikes!
Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Mystery lost 16% of its health!
The foe's Mystery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 17
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Guardian! (Golurk)
Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Guardian lost 27% of its health!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 18
The foe's Guardian used Toxic!
Slowbro was poisoned!
Slowbro used Scald!
It's super effective!
The foe's Guardian lost 53% of its health!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro is hurt by poison!
Start of turn 19
Hyuga called Guardian back!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Slowbro used Scald!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Mystery lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Mystery was burned!
The foe's Mystery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Mystery is hurt by its burn!
Slowbro is hurt by poison!
Start of turn 20
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Blissey!
Start of turn 21
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Aromatherapy!
A soothing aroma wafted through the area!
Start of turn 22
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Blissey lost 81 HP! (11% of its health)
Blissey flinched!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 23
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Toxic!
The foe's Nurse Joy was poisoned!
The foe's Nurse Joy ate its Lum Berry!
The foe's Nurse Joy's status cleared!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 24
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Blissey used Toxic!
The attack of Blissey missed!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Start of turn 25
NightSlasher called Blissey back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's not very effective...
Slowbro lost 71 HP! (18% of its health)
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 26
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Slowbro used Fire Blast!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 19% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 27
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 124 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro used Scald!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 19% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 28
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 132 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro used Slack Off!
Slowbro regained health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 29
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 132 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 30
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 124 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 31
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 123 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 32
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Dragonite!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Dragonite lost 48 HP! (14% of its health)
Start of turn 33
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Guardian! (Golurk)
Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
Dragonite's Attack rose!
Dragonite's Speed rose!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 34
Dragonite used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Guardian lost 36% of its health!
The foe's Guardian fainted!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Dragonite!
Dragonite's Attack fell!
Start of turn 35
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 275 HP! (85% of its health)
Dragonite fainted!
NightSlasher: oo
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
Start of turn 36
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm calmed down!
The foe's Wyrm became confused!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 37
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Anubis was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Anubis's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 38
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 39
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Ferrothorn lost 76 HP! (21% of its health)
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 40
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
The foe's Wyrm lost 47% of its health!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 41
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Heat Wave!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 42
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
NightSlasher called Ferrothorn back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 43
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 133 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro used Scald!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 20% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 44
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Blissey!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Blissey lost 85 HP! (11% of its health)
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 45
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Seismic Toss!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 27% of its health!
The foe's Nurse Joy fainted!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Start of turn 46
NightSlasher called Blissey back!
NightSlasher sent out Tentacruel!
The foe's Anubis used Crunch!
Tentacruel lost 78 HP! (21% of its health)
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 47
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 48
The foe's Anubis used Crunch!
Tentacruel lost 75 HP! (20% of its health)
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Anubis lost 34% of its health!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 49
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 50
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 144 HP! (39% of its health)
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Anubis lost 35% of its health!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 51
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 156 HP! (42% of its health)
Tentacruel flinched!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 52
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 53
NightSlasher called Tentacruel back!
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Ferrothorn lost 52 HP! (14% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 54
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 55
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's super effective!
Ferrothorn lost 272 HP! (77% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Anubis lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Anubis fainted!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Start of turn 56
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 57
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
It's not very effective...
Ferrothorn lost 71 HP! (20% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Wyrm
Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Hyuga's team!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 58
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm calmed down!
The foe's Wyrm became confused!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Tier: DW OU
Mode: Singles
Variation: +20, -12
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
NightSlasher sent out Serperior!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Start of turn 1
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
Start of turn 2
Serperior used Hidden Power!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 3
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 4
Serperior used Substitute!
Serperior made a substitute!
Serperior ate its Petaya Berry!
The Petaya Berry raised Serperior's Sp. Att.!
Serperior's Sp. Att. rose!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior's substitute faded!
Start of turn 5
Serperior used Leaf Storm!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 38% of its health!
Serperior's Sp. Att. sharply fell!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
It's super effective!
Serperior lost 73 HP! (25% of its health)
Serperior fainted!
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
Start of turn 6
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
The attack of the foe's Nurse Joy missed!
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 7
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Start of turn 8
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's super effective!
Ferrothorn lost 260 HP! (73% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Anubis lost 36% of its health!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 9
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 10
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 11
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Ferrothorn lost 82 HP! (23% of its health)
Ferrothorn flinched!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
VIP T is watching the battle.
Start of turn 12
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 13
NightSlasher called Ferrothorn back!
NightSlasher sent out Tentacruel!
The foe's Wyrm used Heat Wave!
It's not very effective...
Tentacruel lost 35 HP! (9% of its health)
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 14
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes!
Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Hyuga's team!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 15
NightSlasher called Tentacruel back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
The foe's Mystery used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Slowbro lost 65 HP! (16% of its health)
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 16
The foe's Mystery used Rapid Spin!
Slowbro lost 9 HP! (2% of its health)
The foe's Mystery blew away Toxic Spikes!
Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Mystery lost 16% of its health!
The foe's Mystery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 17
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Guardian! (Golurk)
Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Guardian lost 27% of its health!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 18
The foe's Guardian used Toxic!
Slowbro was poisoned!
Slowbro used Scald!
It's super effective!
The foe's Guardian lost 53% of its health!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro is hurt by poison!
Start of turn 19
Hyuga called Guardian back!
Hyuga sent out Mystery! (Starmie)
Slowbro used Scald!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Mystery lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Mystery was burned!
The foe's Mystery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Mystery is hurt by its burn!
Slowbro is hurt by poison!
Start of turn 20
Hyuga called Mystery back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Blissey!
Start of turn 21
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Aromatherapy!
A soothing aroma wafted through the area!
Start of turn 22
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Blissey lost 81 HP! (11% of its health)
Blissey flinched!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 23
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Toxic!
The foe's Nurse Joy was poisoned!
The foe's Nurse Joy ate its Lum Berry!
The foe's Nurse Joy's status cleared!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 24
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Blissey used Toxic!
The attack of Blissey missed!
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Start of turn 25
NightSlasher called Blissey back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's not very effective...
Slowbro lost 71 HP! (18% of its health)
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 26
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Slowbro used Fire Blast!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 19% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 27
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 124 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro used Scald!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 19% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 28
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 132 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro used Slack Off!
Slowbro regained health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 29
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 132 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 30
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 124 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 31
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 123 HP! (31% of its health)
Slowbro flinched!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 32
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Dragonite!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Dragonite lost 48 HP! (14% of its health)
Start of turn 33
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Guardian! (Golurk)
Dragonite used Dragon Dance!
Dragonite's Attack rose!
Dragonite's Speed rose!
The foe's Guardian restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 34
Dragonite used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Guardian lost 36% of its health!
The foe's Guardian fainted!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Dragonite!
Dragonite's Attack fell!
Start of turn 35
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
It's super effective!
Dragonite lost 275 HP! (85% of its health)
Dragonite fainted!
NightSlasher: oo
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
Start of turn 36
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm calmed down!
The foe's Wyrm became confused!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 37
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Anubis was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Anubis's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 38
Hyuga called Anubis back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
Ferrothorn used Protect!
But it failed!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 39
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Ferrothorn lost 76 HP! (21% of its health)
Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
The foe's Nurse Joy was seeded!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Nurse Joy's health is sapped by leech seed.
Start of turn 40
Hyuga called Nurse Joy back!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
The foe's Wyrm lost 47% of its health!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 41
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Heat Wave!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 42
Hyuga called Wyrm back!
Hyuga sent out Nurse Joy! (Togekiss)
NightSlasher called Ferrothorn back!
NightSlasher sent out Slowbro!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 43
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Slowbro lost 133 HP! (33% of its health)
Slowbro used Scald!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 20% of its health!
Slowbro restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 44
NightSlasher called Slowbro back!
NightSlasher sent out Blissey!
The foe's Nurse Joy used Air Slash!
Blissey lost 85 HP! (11% of its health)
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 45
The foe's Nurse Joy used Wish!
Blissey used Seismic Toss!
The foe's Nurse Joy lost 27% of its health!
The foe's Nurse Joy fainted!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Hyuga sent out Anubis! (Lucario)
Start of turn 46
NightSlasher called Blissey back!
NightSlasher sent out Tentacruel!
The foe's Anubis used Crunch!
Tentacruel lost 78 HP! (21% of its health)
Nurse Joy's wish came true!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 47
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 48
The foe's Anubis used Crunch!
Tentacruel lost 75 HP! (20% of its health)
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Anubis lost 34% of its health!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 49
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 50
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 144 HP! (39% of its health)
Tentacruel used Scald!
The foe's Anubis lost 35% of its health!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 51
The foe's Anubis used Zen Headbutt!
It's super effective!
Tentacruel lost 156 HP! (42% of its health)
Tentacruel flinched!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 52
Tentacruel used Protect!
Tentacruel protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
Tentacruel protected itself!
Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 53
NightSlasher called Tentacruel back!
NightSlasher sent out Ferrothorn!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Ferrothorn lost 52 HP! (14% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 54
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Anubis used ExtremeSpeed!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 55
The foe's Anubis used Hi Jump Kick!
It's super effective!
Ferrothorn lost 272 HP! (77% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Anubis
Ferrothorn used Gyro Ball!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Anubis lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Anubis fainted!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Hyuga sent out Wyrm! (Salamence)
The foe's Wyrm intimidates Ferrothorn!
Ferrothorn's Attack fell!
Start of turn 56
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 57
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
It's not very effective...
Ferrothorn lost 71 HP! (20% of its health)
Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Wyrm
Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Hyuga's team!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 58
Ferrothorn used Protect!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm used Outrage!
Ferrothorn protected itself!
The foe's Wyrm calmed down!
The foe's Wyrm became confused!
Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Then why has my Serperior OHKO'd Darmanitan with Overgrow + berry leaf storm, or killed scizor and ninetales with HP Water, why has he shredded Gliscor and Espeon? Go figure
Well contrary IS better , but the overgrow set works fine too.
Serperior is a very underestimated pokemon.
Your completely right that Contrary is better, but you see, this has the surprise factor. Opponents don't expect me to sub then blow em up because of overgrow.
Also a sub from serperior has a decent natural bulk. Rather low hp but that cant be helped.
Then with 90 base special attack i believe he tends to hit good.
What is more unexpected is that if your sub breaks you set up another one , opponents would think : pfft what a noob he's subbing to save time or something.
Then see petaya berry and feel like : damn i'm stupid :P
Then with 90 base special attack i believe he tends to hit good.
What is more unexpected is that if your sub breaks you set up another one , opponents would think : pfft what a noob he's subbing to save time or something.
Then see petaya berry and feel like : damn i'm stupid :P
precisely!!
It was a Dodrio, not Skymin :P He had a Flareon, Vileplume and Wartortle too, lol. At least he had a FWG core...
Also, it'd be nice if you do post any more logs, can you put them in the 'hide' tag thing, so it doesn't take up so much room.
@Bryne: Much as the team has a huge amount of room for improvement, I don't think your post will particularly help breenm.
@breenm: While I like the idea behind the team, the overall execution is poor. Though he did not word his post particularly well, Bryne does bring up a good point - all of your opponents in those logs were poor players using very poor teams.
Currently, your team lacks effective checks to a large number of common offensive Pokemon - I cannot forsee any even remotely good offensive team losing to you. a lack of Phazers and Hazards also puts you in a poor position versus opposing stall and balance.
Now, the issues with the team could, of course, be fixed with sufficient changes. However, the RMT forum is designed for teams which only need a few changes to see a large increase in success - this team would require a complete overhaul, and therefore I believe it falls outside the boundaries of this forum as a whole. Additionally, from reading through the logs you posted, I see that you don not play to a particularly high standard either.
My first recommendation is therefore to sign-up for Smogon's Battling 101 program. This is specifically designed to help new players such as yourself get a better grasp of the nuances of competetive Pokemon.
Now as round 57 is currently ongoing, you might propose the question or what you should do whilst you wait for round 58. Obviously, building another team of your own is a sub-optimal choice - you're likely to make the same mistakes again. My recommendation is to have a look through the RatemyTeam archive, and try out a few of the teams there. This will enable you to get a much better understand of your own playstyle and the game as a whole - additionally, reading through the threads should give you some cool teambuilding tips, as well as some ideas you might like to try out when you're ready to present a team of your own. Since you've expressed an interest in defensive teams, my initial recommendation would be to check out IR: The Art of Rain Stall by M Dragon. This is a fantastic example of an extremely effective stall team, with detailed explanations to give you a more concrete idea of roles within a defensive team. However, I would also advise you look at the other recent teams in the archive, since they may allow you to see that you also enjoy or more offensive apporach. Even if you decide you dislike playing offense, doing so would help you to "know your enemy" a bit better. At the minimum, I would recommend trying out the most recent four teams, as these are built for fairly recent metagames and cover a broad range of teamstyles. Though many of them are no longer legal an/or relevant, it would not be bad idea to read through some of the older threads, too. Teams such as Solum's Core include plenty of useful imformation about teambuilding and considering the metagame that is still relevant even after the metagame they were originally designed for. You may also read some articles on the main site and perhaps have a browse through some of the threads in dragonspiral tower to try to soak up as much information as possible.
I understand that as a newbie you're excited by the prospect of designing a team for your own and beating as many people as possible with it, but without research beforehand, you're very unlikely to create an effective team. I wish you the best of luck in developing as a player, and hopefully next time I post in one of your RMT's it will be to congratulate you on a very solid, successful team!
@breenm: While I like the idea behind the team, the overall execution is poor. Though he did not word his post particularly well, Bryne does bring up a good point - all of your opponents in those logs were poor players using very poor teams.
Currently, your team lacks effective checks to a large number of common offensive Pokemon - I cannot forsee any even remotely good offensive team losing to you. a lack of Phazers and Hazards also puts you in a poor position versus opposing stall and balance.
Now, the issues with the team could, of course, be fixed with sufficient changes. However, the RMT forum is designed for teams which only need a few changes to see a large increase in success - this team would require a complete overhaul, and therefore I believe it falls outside the boundaries of this forum as a whole. Additionally, from reading through the logs you posted, I see that you don not play to a particularly high standard either.
My first recommendation is therefore to sign-up for Smogon's Battling 101 program. This is specifically designed to help new players such as yourself get a better grasp of the nuances of competetive Pokemon.
Now as round 57 is currently ongoing, you might propose the question or what you should do whilst you wait for round 58. Obviously, building another team of your own is a sub-optimal choice - you're likely to make the same mistakes again. My recommendation is to have a look through the RatemyTeam archive, and try out a few of the teams there. This will enable you to get a much better understand of your own playstyle and the game as a whole - additionally, reading through the threads should give you some cool teambuilding tips, as well as some ideas you might like to try out when you're ready to present a team of your own. Since you've expressed an interest in defensive teams, my initial recommendation would be to check out IR: The Art of Rain Stall by M Dragon. This is a fantastic example of an extremely effective stall team, with detailed explanations to give you a more concrete idea of roles within a defensive team. However, I would also advise you look at the other recent teams in the archive, since they may allow you to see that you also enjoy or more offensive apporach. Even if you decide you dislike playing offense, doing so would help you to "know your enemy" a bit better. At the minimum, I would recommend trying out the most recent four teams, as these are built for fairly recent metagames and cover a broad range of teamstyles. Though many of them are no longer legal an/or relevant, it would not be bad idea to read through some of the older threads, too. Teams such as Solum's Core include plenty of useful imformation about teambuilding and considering the metagame that is still relevant even after the metagame they were originally designed for. You may also read some articles on the main site and perhaps have a browse through some of the threads in dragonspiral tower to try to soak up as much information as possible.
I understand that as a newbie you're excited by the prospect of designing a team for your own and beating as many people as possible with it, but without research beforehand, you're very unlikely to create an effective team. I wish you the best of luck in developing as a player, and hopefully next time I post in one of your RMT's it will be to congratulate you on a very solid, successful team!
I would suggest changing Serpior's ability to contrary, but seeing how you use Serpior, overgrow would be the better choice.
You team could really use wish support, so I would recommend replacing soft boiled with wish. Wish works great with protect, but I doubt you could spare a moveslot for it (unless you willing to replace toxic with protect and let toxic spikes take over.)
I would replace power whip with spikes on Ferrothorn. As a stall/tank team, your going to be causing a lot of switches, and 3 layers of spikes can really make switches painful. Stealth rocks would also work if you prefer an easier to set up (and more reliable) entry hazard, you just don't get that constant 25%.
Your team could also use a spin blocker. Since your doing DW OU, I'm guessing shadow tag Chandelure is allowed. This is the perfect spin blocker. Try something like this:
You would switch in on the rapid spinner block the spin and trap it. Its more focused on SpAtk than Spd becuase most rapid spinners are slow, but defensive. Flamethrower hits Foretress, Psychic hits Tentacruel, and hidden power ice is for the common dragon type (filler move.) Shadow ball is your stab attack for those who resist flamethrower.
Hope I helped! Good luck.
You team could really use wish support, so I would recommend replacing soft boiled with wish. Wish works great with protect, but I doubt you could spare a moveslot for it (unless you willing to replace toxic with protect and let toxic spikes take over.)
I would replace power whip with spikes on Ferrothorn. As a stall/tank team, your going to be causing a lot of switches, and 3 layers of spikes can really make switches painful. Stealth rocks would also work if you prefer an easier to set up (and more reliable) entry hazard, you just don't get that constant 25%.
Your team could also use a spin blocker. Since your doing DW OU, I'm guessing shadow tag Chandelure is allowed. This is the perfect spin blocker. Try something like this:
Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 Hp/ 252Atk/ 252Spd
Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Hidden power (ice)
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 Hp/ 252Atk/ 252Spd
Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Hidden power (ice)
You would switch in on the rapid spinner block the spin and trap it. Its more focused on SpAtk than Spd becuase most rapid spinners are slow, but defensive. Flamethrower hits Foretress, Psychic hits Tentacruel, and hidden power ice is for the common dragon type (filler move.) Shadow ball is your stab attack for those who resist flamethrower.
Hope I helped! Good luck.
i guess because they're surprised you're using serp not beacuse of the overgrow shit. if you want to use subs-overgrow, there are better grass starters out there who can abuse it, such as sceptile or torterra.
look, don't get me wrong, i have noted from the start that i love your team because you're using serp (im even the one who suggested to use ddnite).
but i think you're right though, if you want wifi ou, you can't use contrary. i guess, if you really like overgrow, change him to sceptile, serp's not the best one to use it.
Difference with sceptile and serperior is discussable.
Serperior has 75 Sp.Att and 113 speed.
Sceptile has 105 " " " " and 120 " " " " .
So on the offensive side it defenatly wins.
But defensive :
Serperior: 75 95 95
Sceptile: 70 65 85
Serperior can still take some resisted hits while sceptile is almost a OHKO by anything.
Just as a side note, Petaya Berry is illegal outside of DW anyway. Since you're running it you might as just be using contrary Leafstorm Spam. You should still take my suggestions, though.