RU Indeedee-M [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Mystical Fire
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Hyper Voice
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's primary role in the RU tier is as a wallbreaker that is capable of pushing past many neutrally hit, specially bulky targets. Mystical Fire hammers the likes of Steelix and Metagross for super effective damage while also lowering the Special Attack of switch-ins like Assault Vest Reuniclus, thus making it easier for Indeedee-M's teammates to switch into them. Dazzling Gleam hits Dark-types like Obstagoon and Zarude very hard and can 2HKO Umbreon after some prior damage. Hyper Voice is an alternative STAB move that gives Indeedee-M a stronger move to lock into should the opposing team be employing more offensive Dark-types, like Obstagoon and Zarude, without having to give up much power against general special sponges like Porygon2 and Snorlax. Trick can cripple special walls like Umbreon and Registeel to make it even easier for Indeedee-M's team to deal with them, but losing its Choice Specs makes Indeedee-M much less effective at breaking down defensive cores.

Indeedee-M appreciates teammates that can handle extremely bulky Psychic-type answers, particularly Umbreon and Registeel. Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Choice Scarf Heracross can handle these threats and clean up late-game once Indeedee-M has broken down an opponent's defensive core. Spikes support from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated, as it can allow Indeedee-M to push past Umbreon on its own with Dazzling Gleam while also exploiting Registeel's lack of reliable recovery on repeated switch-ins. Faster threats, such as Mienshao, Zygarde-10%, and Zarude, have problems switching in but can easily revenge kill Indeedee-M. Togekiss can check Mienshao and Zarude effectively while being able to sweep teams or pressure opposing Steel-types with a Nasty Plot set, while a Zarude of your own can check Zygarde-10%. Sharpedo and Cloyster are powerful late-game cleaners that benefit from Psychic Terrain protecting them from dangerous priority moves. Pokemon such as Milotic and the aforementioned Mienshao and Zarude can utilize pivot moves to effectively switch in Indeedee-M on favorable matchups. Sun support from Ninetales is somewhat niche, but the power boost to Mystical Fire is enough to 2HKO Registeel and cleanly OHKO Zarude, and Indeedee-M's Psychic Terrain protects Ninetales and common sun Pokemon like Shiftry and Darmanitan from priority moves.

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's good Speed and Psychic Surge-boosted Expanding Force allows it to revenge kill numerous RU staples, such as Zygarde-10%, Raikou, and Cobalion, with a Choice Scarf equipped. Dazzling Gleam cleanly 2HKOes Zarude and Noivern, and it effectively pressures Obstagoon as well. Mystical Fire 2HKOes fully offensive Metagross and can make it easier for teammates to switch into Psychic-resistant Pokemon, such as Reuniclus. Trick is essential for crippling special walls like Registeel, Umbreon, and Porygon2. Hyper Voice is an alternative option that has good neutral coverage on most of the offensive metagame, but is generally only a better cleaning option if Psychic Terrain runs out.

Indeedee-M has a very hard time with special walls, particularly Umbreon, Registeel, and Porygon2. This makes Obstagoon, Mienshao, and Heracross great teammates, as they can easily remove these special walls and weaken most defensive Pokemon in general with their powerful attacks. Zarude and Mienshao are troublesome faster Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill Indeedee-M, thus making Togekiss and Galarian Weezing good teammate options. Togekiss can utilize a Nasty Plot set to weaken or outright remove Steel-types for Indeedee-M, while Galarian Weezing can effectively use Toxic Spikes to wear down Porygon2 and Umbreon. Spikes from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated, as all of the special walls Indeedee-M struggles with are vulnerable to the entry hazard. Late-game cleaners, such as Sharpedo and Cloyster, that appreciate Psychic Terrain protecting them from opposing priority moves are good choices to use with Indeedee-M as well.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[EonX, 91480]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 339771], [zizalith, 410251]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Mystical Fire
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Trick (Unsure about Trick, Indeedee without Specs is pretty useless. Hvoice or Psyshock is in my eyes better. I'll leave it for now.)
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

With Psychic Surge and donning a pair of Choice Specs, Indeedee-M is capable of breaking through many bulky Pokemon in the tier. Mystical Fire hammers the likes of Steelix and Metagross for super effective damage while also lowering the Special Attack of would-be switch-ins like Gardevoir, Necrozma, and (Both gets 2HKOed by Expanding Force) Assault Vest Reuniclus, thus making it easier for Indeedee-M's teammates to switch into them. Dazzling Gleam hits Dark-types like Obstagoon and Zarude very hard and can 2HKO Umbreon after some prior damage. Trick cripples special walls like Porygon2, (P2 gets 2HKOed by Expanding Force after Rocks so you wouldn't ever Trick it.) Umbreon, and Registeel to make it even easier for Indeedee-M's team to deal with them. Hyper Voice is an alternative STAB move that can be used that allows Indeedee-M to have a stronger move to lock into should the opposing team be employing more offensive Dark-types, like Obstagoon, but it doesn't generally help to deal with common defensive switch-ins effectively aside from Incineroar. Timid is mandatory as being outsped by non-Choice Scarf variants of Heracross and Xurkitree is not ideal, especially considering Indeedee-M can OHKO both with Expanding Force. (Yea Modest Indeedee-M isn't a thing so no need to hammer this down.)

Indeedee-M appreciates teammates that can handle extremely bulky special walls, particularly Umbreon and Registeel. Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Choice Scarf Heracross can handle these threats and clean up late-game once Indeedee-M has broken down an opponent's defensive core. Spikes support from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated as it can allow Indeedee-M to push past Umbreon on its own with Dazzling Gleam while also exploiting Registeel's lack of reliable recovery on repeated switch-ins. Faster threats, such as Mienshao, Zygarde-10%, and Zarude have problems switching in, but can easily revenge kill Indeedee-M. Togekiss can check Mienshao and Zarude effectively while being able to sweep teams or pressure opposing Steel-types with a Nasty Plot set while a Zarude of your own can check Zygarde-10%. Sharpedo and Cloyster are powerful late-game cleaners that can benefit from Psychic Terrain protecting them from dangerous priority moves. Sun support from Torkoal seems a bit odd, but the power boost to Mystical Fire is enough to 2HKO Registeel and cleanly OHKO Zarude and Indeedee-M's Psychic Terrain protects common sun Pokemon, like Shiftry and Darmanitan, from priority moves. (Unsure about the sun mention, but I'll leave it for the next QC to decide. Also, add a mention of VoltTurn partners to get Indeedee in as much as possible.)

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's good Speed and Psychic Surge-boosted Expanding Force allows it to revenge kill numerous RU staples, such as Zygarde-10%, Raikou, and Cobalion, with a Choice Scarf equipped. Dazzling Gleam cleanly 2HKOes Zarude and Noivern, and effectively pressures Obstagoon as well. Mystical Fire reliably 2HKOes Metagross and can make it easier to switch into Psychic-type resists, such as Gardevoir, Necrozma, and (They aren't 2HKOed this time but still doesn't want to switch in.) Reuniclus. Hyper Voice is an alternative option that has good neutral coverage on most of the offensive metagame, but is generally only a better cleaning option if Psychic Terrain runs out. Trick is essential for crippling special walls, like Registeel, Umbreon, and Porygon2. Timid nature is absolutely necessary to outspeed other common Choice Scarf users, namely Heracross and Xurkitree. (Again fluff.)

Indeedee-M has a very hard time with special walls, particularly Umbreon, Registeel, and Porygon2. This makes Obstagoon, Mieshao Mienshao, and Heracross great teammates as they can easily remove these special walls and weaken most defensive Pokemon in general with their powerful attacks. Zarude and Mienshao are troublesome faster Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill Indeedee-M, thus making Togekiss and Galarian Weezing good teammate options. Togekiss can utilize a Nasty Plot set to weaken or outright remove Steel-types for Indeedee-M while Galarian Weezing can effectively use Toxic Spikes to wear down Porygon2 and Umbreon. Spikes from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated as all of the special walls Indeedee-M struggles with are vulnerable to the entry hazard. Late-game cleaners, such as Sharpedo and Cloyster, that appreciate Psychic Terrain protecting them from opposing priority moves are good choices to use with Indeedee-M as well.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[EonX, 91480]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 359771], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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Done. Reworded the sun part a bit on Specs to emphasize the niche nature of it. I've used it myself before and felt pretty solid, which is why I mentioned it at the end. Also, got no problem slashing Hyper Voice on Specs with Trick (it's currently a move mention on both sets) if the rest of QC wants it.
 

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Mystical Fire
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Trick Hyper Voice agree with goldcat here. dark types are very very common and its a good midground so you dont have to predict right every turn
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

With Psychic Surge and donning a pair of Choice Specs, Indeedee-M is capable of breaking through many bulky Pokemon in the tier dont like this first sentence, feels very fluffy. remember first sentence should be a mini overview. Mystical Fire hammers the likes of Steelix and Metagross for super effective damage while also lowering the Special Attack of would-be switch-ins like Assault Vest Reuniclus, thus making it easier for Indeedee-M's teammates to switch into them. Dazzling Gleam hits Dark-types like Obstagoon and Zarude very hard and can 2HKO Umbreon after some prior damage. Trick cripples special walls like Umbreon and Registeel to make it even easier for Indeedee-M's team to deal with them drop this lower, also mention that indeedee is considerably less effective at breaking w/o specs. Hyper Voice is an alternative STAB move that can be used that allows Indeedee-M to have a stronger move to lock into should the opposing team be employing more offensive Dark-types, like Obstagoon, but it doesn't generally help to deal with common defensive switch-ins effectively aside from Incineroar. i mean even if it was solely used for incin that is still relevant imo. emphasize that more and just say it makes you less prediction reliant vs darks.
goldcat also mentioned psyshock, check if it has any useful targets over eforce and if so add it here


Indeedee-M appreciates teammates that can handle extremely bulky special walls Psychic resists (stuff like p2/snorlax can get overwhelmed w chip), particularly Umbreon and Registeel. Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Choice Scarf Heracross can handle these threats and clean up late-game once Indeedee-M has broken down an opponent's defensive core. Spikes support from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated as it can allow Indeedee-M to push past Umbreon on its own with Dazzling Gleam while also exploiting Registeel's lack of reliable recovery on repeated switch-ins. Faster threats, such as Mienshao, Zygarde-10%, and Zarude have problems switching in, but can easily revenge kill Indeedee-M. Togekiss can check Mienshao and Zarude effectively while being able to sweep teams or pressure opposing Steel-types with a Nasty Plot set while a Zarude of your own can check Zygarde-10%. Sharpedo and Cloyster are powerful late-game cleaners that can benefit from Psychic Terrain protecting them from dangerous priority moves. Pokemon such as Milotic and the aforementioned Mienshao and Zarude can utilize pivot moves to effectively switch in Indeedee-M on favorable matchups. Sun support from Torkoal is somewhat niche, but the power boost to Mystical Fire is enough to 2HKO Registeel and cleanly OHKO Zarude and Indeedee-M's Psychic Terrain protects common sun Pokemon, like Shiftry and Darmanitan, from priority moves. indeedee on full sun seems very weird? not necessarily bad but id see ninetales being more useful there tbh, sun is already pretty strapped for slots as an archetype

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's good Speed and Psychic Surge-boosted Expanding Force allows it to revenge kill numerous RU staples, such as Zygarde-10%, Raikou, and Cobalion, with a Choice Scarf equipped. Dazzling Gleam cleanly 2HKOes Zarude and Noivern, and effectively pressures Obstagoon as well. Mystical Fire reliably 2HKOes Metagross (252 SpA Indeedee Mystical Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Metagross: 154-182 (42.3 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO) and can make it easier to switch into Psychic-type resists, such as Reuniclus. Hyper Voice is an alternative option that has good neutral coverage on most of the offensive metagame, but is generally only a better cleaning option if Psychic Terrain runs out.move this after trick bc it isnt slashed on the set Trick is essential for crippling special walls, like Registeel, Umbreon, and Porygon2.

Indeedee-M has a very hard time with special walls, particularly Umbreon, Registeel, and Porygon2. This makes Obstagoon, Mienshao, and Heracross great teammates as they can easily remove these special walls and weaken most defensive Pokemon in general with their powerful attacks. Zarude and Mienshao are troublesome faster Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill Indeedee-M, thus making Togekiss and Galarian Weezing good teammate options. Togekiss can utilize a Nasty Plot set to weaken or outright remove Steel-types for Indeedee-M while Galarian Weezing can effectively use Toxic Spikes to wear down Porygon2 and Umbreon. Spikes from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated as all of the special walls Indeedee-M struggles with are vulnerable to the entry hazard. Late-game cleaners, such as Sharpedo and Cloyster, that appreciate Psychic Terrain protecting them from opposing priority moves are good choices to use with Indeedee-M as well.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[EonX, 91480]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 339771], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Mystical Fire
move 3: Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Hyper Voice
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's primary role in the RU tier is as a wallbreaker that is capable of pushing past many neutrally hit, specially bulky targets. Mystical Fire hammers the likes of Steelix and Metagross for super effective damage while also lowering the Special Attack of would-be (seems like they're still able to switch in, just they become less effective for later) switch-ins like Assault Vest Reuniclus, thus making it easier for Indeedee-M's teammates to switch into them. Dazzling Gleam hits Dark-types like Obstagoon and Zarude very hard and can 2HKO Umbreon after some prior damage. Hyper Voice is an alternative STAB move that allows Indeedee-M to have gives Indeedee-M a stronger move to lock into should the opposing team be employing more offensive Dark-types, like Obstagoon and Zarude, without having to give up much power against general special sponges like Porygon2 and Snorlax. Trick can cripple special walls like Umbreon and Registeel to make it even easier for Indeedee-M's team to deal with them, but losing its Choice Specs makes Indeedee-M much less effective at breaking down defensive cores.

Indeedee-M appreciates teammates that can handle extremely bulky Psychic-type resistances answers, particularly Umbreon and Registeel. Fighting-types such as Mienshao and Choice Scarf Heracross can handle these threats and clean up late-game once Indeedee-M has broken down an opponent's defensive core. Spikes support from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated, (AC) as it can allow Indeedee-M to push past Umbreon on its own with Dazzling Gleam while also exploiting Registeel's lack of reliable recovery on repeated switch-ins. Faster threats, such as Mienshao, Zygarde-10%, and Zarude, (AC) have problems switching in (RC) but can easily revenge kill Indeedee-M. Togekiss can check Mienshao and Zarude effectively while being able to sweep teams or pressure opposing Steel-types with a Nasty Plot set, (AC) while a Zarude of your own can check Zygarde-10%. Sharpedo and Cloyster are powerful late-game cleaners that can benefit from Psychic Terrain protecting them from dangerous priority moves. Pokemon such as Milotic and the aforementioned Mienshao and Zarude can utilize pivot moves to effectively switch in Indeedee-M in on favorable matchups. Sun support from Ninetales is somewhat niche, but the power boost to Mystical Fire is enough to 2HKO Registeel and cleanly OHKO Zarude, (AC) and Indeedee-M's Psychic Terrain protects Ninetales and common sun Pokemon (RC) like Shiftry and Darmanitan (RC) from priority moves.

[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Indeedee-M's good Speed and Psychic Surge-boosted Expanding Force allows it to revenge kill numerous RU staples, such as Zygarde-10%, Raikou, and Cobalion, with a Choice Scarf equipped. Dazzling Gleam cleanly 2HKOes Zarude and Noivern, and it effectively pressures Obstagoon as well. Mystical Fire 2HKOes fully offensive Metagross and can make it easier for teammates to switch into Psychic-type resists Psychic-resistant Pokemon, such as Reuniclus. Trick is essential for crippling special walls (RC) like Registeel, Umbreon, and Porygon2. Hyper Voice is an alternative option that has good neutral coverage on most of the offensive metagame, but it is generally only a better cleaning option if Psychic Terrain runs out.

Indeedee-M has a very hard time with special walls, particularly Umbreon, Registeel, and Porygon2. This makes Obstagoon, Mienshao, and Heracross great teammates, (AC) as they can easily remove these special walls and weaken most defensive Pokemon in general with their powerful attacks. Zarude and Mienshao are troublesome faster Choice Scarf users that can revenge kill Indeedee-M, thus making Togekiss and Galarian Weezing good teammate options. Togekiss can utilize a Nasty Plot set to weaken or outright remove Steel-types for Indeedee-M, (AC) while Galarian Weezing can effectively use Toxic Spikes to wear down Porygon2 and Umbreon. Spikes from Roserade and Klefki is also appreciated, (AC) as all of the special walls Indeedee-M struggles with are vulnerable to the entry hazard. Late-game cleaners, such as Sharpedo and Cloyster, that appreciate Psychic Terrain protecting them from opposing priority moves are good choices to use with Indeedee-M as well.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[EonX, 91480]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 339771], [zizalith, 410251]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

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