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Rey™

Killswitch Engage


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KsE is one of the most fun bands I ever listened to. A lot of people love them, A lot of people don't like them but KsE is a band you can't say you hate. Idk why I'm saying this, I just thought it would be fun naming a fun team to a fun band. :3

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Howard Jones - Lead Vocals
@ Focus Sash
Pressure
Naive
252 Atk / 6 SAtk / 252 Spd
- Rock Slide
- Pursuit
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock

Credit goes to Janenmori. Been using it for a while & it works pretty good. Fire Blast is for Steel types. I'm already using Fire Blast & I don't like handling 2 moves with bad accuracy so I used Rock Slide over Stone Edge. & of course it likes setting Rocks.

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Mike D'Antonio - Bass
@ Life Orb
Intimidate
Rash
120 Atk / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Brick Break
- Crunch

MixMence. Here only to break walls & it's doing a pretty good job at it. basic MixMence so can't explain much that wasn't explained. It covers Metagross' & Swampert's weaknesses.

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Adam Dutkiewicz - Guitar
@ Leftovers
Intimidate
Adamant
212 HP / 18 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Taunt

BulkyGyara. always a good counter to Heracross. Basic BulkyGyara so can't explain much either.

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Joel Stroetzel - Guitar
@ Shuca Berry
Clear Body
Adamant
154 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spd
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

AgiliGross. wow I'm using a lot of self-explainable stuff... & it covers Salamence's weaknesses.

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Justin Foley - Drums
@ Leftovers
Torrent
Relaxed
240 HP / 216 Def / 54 SAtk
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Roar

MixPert. pretty cool Physical Wall. It covers Gyarados' & Aerodactyl's weaknesses.

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As Daylight Dies - Last Album
@ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold
252 HP / 108 Def / 148 SDef
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Charge Beam

SleepTalker. covers my weakness & hate to sleeping moves... I tried a Spiritomb but didn't work out very well as much as Cresselia.

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Rate. Fix. Suggestions. Criticism. Whatever you can give me, please do. :3
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Salamence can Wish, and Dragon Claw > Crunch for sure. Gardevoir can also Wish, buy you would have to change the set. Pert is good the way it is, but if you have no spatks on it, Impish is better.
 
Salamence isn't a good Wish supporter & I don't really want to change Gardevoir's set .. I'll change Crunch to Dragon Claw since it doesn't 3HKO Dusknoir .. thanks for your time ..! :3
 
Rey™ said:


The Band

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Jesse Leach the Gardevoir - Former Vocals
@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Trace
Nature: Modest
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
- Hypnosis
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]


Despite what may have been said in the thread, i still think that Lead gardevior fails. Gengar does all this, But better, with more SpA and Speed.
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Mike D'Antonio - Bass
@ Shuca Berry
Ability: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 118 Spd
- Agility
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch

Metagross wants moar ice punch than Thunderpunch.
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Adam Dutkiewicz - Guitar
@ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Mild
EVs: 120 Atk / 252 SAtk / 136 Spd
- Brick Break
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Hidden power on Salamence is fail. There are so many better options. If your still desperate for Swampert, see below. Put Dragon claw over Hidden Power; Sala cringes at lack of stab.

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Joel Stroetzel - Guitar
@ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 184 Spd
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake

Gyara wants taunt. Drop either EQ or Ice fang; he wants it bad.
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Justin Foley - Drums
@ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
- Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roar


IMO You need a better physical wall than Swampy; even though it's resistances are useful. Try fortress.

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Howard Jones - Vocals
@ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 114 SDef
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

If you like 'Tomb this is good; otherwise replace it with Cresselia who does the mixed restalking wall thing. much better

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Any fixes would be appreciated .. I'd like a Wish Supporter if anyone has any idea besides Jirachi ..
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I see huge Chomp weak if gardevior goes down. It just set's up on swampert. You also have no dedicated special wall; even though there are far less special threats than physical ones the special ones beat the shit out of you. Putting cresselia on there like suggested would help; blissey would solve it.
 
For your bulky water you could use Vaporeon > Swampert as it gets Wish, but you would lose your Electric immune to help with Gyara.
 
Gengar lacks Trace .. seriously, people need to stop underestimating Trace ..

I'll try Ice Punch over it Thunderpunch ..

I kinda like HP Grass on Salamence but okay, I'll try Dragon Claw over it ..

People expect Taunt .. why should I give them what they expect ..? why not get a free DD ..? :3

I'll try Fortress ..

Cresselia has the same weaknesses as Gardevoir which I don't like the looks of .. I have nothing to protect me from Ghost & Dark attacks then ..

EDIT: Janenmori: yeah Electric attacks are a problem but Vaporeon don't get OHKO'd easily so I might try it ..
 
If you're going to use gardevoir just because of trace then somthing's wrong. It is totally outclassed by gengar, especially if running a scarf set.

Taunt is standard for a reason. It works. It also lets you set up against shit like Wobb or bliss.

Fortress can take ghost/dark attacks.
 
Ray said:
Killswitch Engage .. a band that does nothing but awesome ..
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They kicked out there good singer, they sold out from Ferret Records, and now there new singer is a whiny bitch. Thats whats wrong with them hahahaha.


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Howard Jones - Vocals
@ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 114 SDef
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
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That nature lowers its Sp Att which you are using, you want Calm.
 
I like Gardevoir better really .. Don't like to use common leads for the unpredictability .. might be a stupid reason but I just choose to use it :3

Good point on Taunt though ..

Edit: Jesse left, he destroyed his vocal chords .. Their time with Ferret Records ended & Howard is one of the few people that can singe & scream at the same time ..

I had no idea about the nature, I'll change it ..
 
I think they really crucified Holy Diver though. Gardevoir is really screwed by Weavile as a lead, as well as many Scarf users (Infernape, Heracross, etc) Aerodactyl has worked really well for me:

Aerodactyl@ Focus Sash
Jolly
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/4hp
~Stone Edge/Rock Slide
~Taunt
~Pursuit
~Stealth Rock

Brilliant lead. Outspeeds anything not scarfed and ALWAYS gets SR down. Rock Slide vs Stone Edge is really power vs acc.
 
Janenmori said:
I think they really crucified Holy Diver though. Gardevoir is really screwed by Weavile as a lead, as well as many Scarf users (Infernape, Heracross, etc) Aerodactyl has worked really well for me:

Aerodactyl@ Focus Sash
Jolly
Pressure
252 Atk/252 Spd/4hp
~Stone Edge/Rock Slide
~Taunt
~Pursuit
~Stealth Rock

Brilliant lead. Outspeeds anything not scarfed and ALWAYS gets SR down. Rock Slide vs Stone Edge is really power vs acc.
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Won't it have problems against Steel types ..?
 
Yeah, mostly Zong, but you can pack EQ/Fire Fang/Fire Blast over Taunt to get the others. Taunt is just for anything that wants to set up.
 
I like Gardevoir better really .. Don't like to use common leads for the unpredictability .. might be a stupid reason but I just choose to use it :3
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People know what gardevoir's gonna do as a lead thanks to that thread; you're much better off using gengar even if Gardevior handles Heatran better. Gengar also beats Chomp as Gardevoir misses out on the OHKO, and get's beaten into submission in return.
 
Well I'm currently testing Aerodactyl & Forretress, & they're working pretty good .. I'll edit the threat later ..
 
If you're going to use a relaxed natured Swampert, I'd suggest using Icebeam over Avalanche. Icebeam will kill more things that are relevant and is more powerful on a switch in. If thats the case, I'd throw a couple of EV's into its SpA to up your SpA power. If you still want to use Avalanche (Because it isn't bad), then I'd suggest an Impish nature with the same EV spread.
 
Avalanche is perfectly viable with MixPert, seeing as it does more than it to Garchomp AND Salamence if you are the one switching into them.

Anyways, I noticed that this team is nothing like Killswitch Engage, it is actually decent.
 
Wow seems like no one likes KsE around here...
Anyways, after quiet some time, I managed to balance more & made a lot of fixes. how does it look now ..?
 
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