Keeping it old school. OU Team Experiment.

Pgirts

Pgirts

This is my first time posting a team on here, so I apologize if it is somewhat underwhelming.

This was a fun little experiment; I wanted to try to make a team that was competitively viable with ONLY using Pokemon from the 1st Gen. Did I succeed? That's for you to decide.

The Lead
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Aerodactyl @Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
252 Spd / 252 Attk / 4 Def
~Stealth Rock
~Taunt
~Rock Slide
~Earthquake

Great at either setting up entry hazards or keeping the opponent from setting up there own. Also, if I manage to keep him alive, he can be a pretty good revenge killer and attacker in the late game.


The Physical Wall
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Weezing @Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp. Attk
~Will-O-Wisp
~Pain Split
~Fire Blast
~Thunderbolt

A lot of people tend to underestimate Weezing due to its UU status. Their mistake. This guy can go toe-to-toe with some of the most powerful physical attackers and cripple them in the process. When he succeeds in his job, he makes life a heck of a lot easier for...


The Physical Sweeper
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Gyarados @Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
252 Attk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
~Dragon Dance
~Waterfall
~Ice Fang
~Earthquake

Again, people tend to underestimate the power of the offensively oriented Dragon Dancer, favoring bulky variants. This plays right into this Gyarados' hands. He may not even need to set up, hitting an opponent expecting a bulky variant and taking them by surprise. As for those pesky electric attacks that spell certain doom for Gyarados...


The Bolt
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Jolteon @Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid
252 Spd / 252 Sp. Attk / 4 Sp. Def
~Thunderbolt
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power Grass
~Baton Pass

This guy hits like a truck, and with Gyarados and Aerodactyl attracting strong electric attacks, Jolteon is able to come in with impunity quite often. He can also act as a potent lure, Baton Passing away from sturdy Earthquake users who are then forced to deal with...


The Special Sweeper
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Gengar @Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
252 Sp. Attk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Blast
~Thunderbolt
~Giga Drain

This guy is probably the MVP of my whole team, and particularly excels at late game sweeping. People claim that Gengar can be quite predictable. I beg to differ. By opting out of Hidden Power Fire, Gengar will always outspeed opposing Gengar who do carry it, which is invaluable to me. Giga Drain is great for picking off weakened opponents and keeping Gengar in the fray a little longer. It also packs great surprise value, taking Rock and Ground types completely by surprise. Like Gyarados, he benefits immensely from Weezing passing out burns. Now like the rest of the team, with the exception of Weezing, Gengar is frail. A Pokemon who can take special attacks and still pose as a potent threat is in order. Enter...


The Fatass
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Snorlax @Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Careful
188 HP / 104 Def / 216 Sp. Def
~Curse
~Rest
~Body Slam
~Earthquake

Ah yes. Curselax. Deemed to be inefficient by many today, Snorlax can come in and set up on a lot of opponents with the right support. Snorlax has particularly great synergy with Weezing. Weezing can burn strong physical attackers that would make setting up with Curse impossible otherwise. Also, he is one of the best checks to Heatran around, and does it while still posing as a potent offensive threat.

Well, that's it. I hope it doesn't suck too much. I know Bronzong in particular can give this team a whole mess of trouble. I've also considered swapping Gyarados for Dragonite, but I'm not sure. What do you think?

Thanks for your time, and I hope you enjoyed reading!
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Have you ever considered Starmie as a rapid spinner for this team? I really notice that you are weak to some common Pokemon such as Skarmory which spike on many members of this team and Forretress as well. A well played Skarmory can easily get 2 to 3 layers of spikes quite easily causing to you deal with some massive headaches later on in the game as you will not be able to switch as much as you like with all of those hazards down. If I were you, I would just replace Gyarados with a Life Orb Rapid Spin Starmie. This way, you still have the synergy of a reliable Infernape check, and you can hurt opposing defensive teams. I notice that you are a bit weak to set up sweepers such as Calm Mind Jirachi and the like, who have opportunities to rip you to shreds if given the chance. If I were you, I would replace a team member with a Pokemon that can check CM sweepers such as Celebi and Jirachi. A special defensive Heatran would work perfectly fine as it allows you to tank hits from both of these pokemon as well as check other threats like Gengar and Rotom. I would simply put it over your Jolteon, as at the moment it really isn't doing anything useful for you.

Heatran @ Leftovers
Calm 252 HP | 200 SpD | 56 Spe Flash Fire
Stealth Rocks | Flamethrower | Earth Power | Protect

Finally, I would replace your lead with a different pokemon that has the ability to matchup with common leads in today's metagame. If you ask me, a Crobat lead, although unorthodox, would work very well on this team. It has the ability to check certain pokemon such as Infernape and Celebi with little effort. Also, it won't leave your team vulnerable to grass types or Breloom for that matter.

Crobat @ Leftovers
Jolly 248 HP | 116 Atk | 144 Spd Inner Focus
Brave Bird | U-turn | Taunt | Roost

Alright that is all I have to say for now. Good Luck with this team!
 
Thanks for the tips! For the sake of novelty though, I want to only use Pokemon that are part of the original 151 for this experiment.

I have considered adding Starmie, but I didn't know who I wanted him to replace. I don't want it to replace Gyarados because I lose an important physical attacker. However, if I replace Gyarados with Dragonite I could easily replace Jolteon with Starmie.

Aerodactyl has proven himself to be way to useful to replace with Crobat. Weavile is the opponent's lead? Switch to Weezing. Infernape and Dragonite leads could be more problematic, but Starmie could possibly handle both of them.

I'm still open to any tips!

EDIT: Yeah, after thinking it over, I think replacing Gyarados with a Bulky Dragon Dancing Dragonite may be the way to go. A moveset boasting Fire Punch would probably work best.
 
Rotom-A looks like it could be an issue somewhat. It combats a lot of the pokes on your team and it requires a decent remaining core and prediction to play around.
How do you usually handle Rotom-A's various sets?
 
Snorlax can sponge many of the hits from the Rotom forms, so I usually switch to him. If they begin to use an electric attack, I switch to Jolteon who can then hit them with Shadow Ball.
 
I would recommend a sub split Gengar because it has the potential to beat the skarmbliss duo that could be problematic for your team. here's the set:

Gengar @ Life Orb
Levitate
Timid Evs: 4def/ 252spatk/ 252speed
-Substitute
-Pain Split
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast

This set is amazing. First when you enter a battle you sub and then sweep. Pain split is when your health is low and Shadow Ball and Focus Blast provide almost perfent neutral coverage. This set is effective because it almost always beats Gengar's #1 counter, Blissey.
 
I've considered the SubSplit Gengar set, but there is one thing that keeps me from using it; my Snorlax. Pretty much the only thing the SubSplit set has over the Gengar I have is the ability to combat Blissey, and even then, Curselax is capable of taking on Blissey more effectively.

Thunderbolt on my current Gengar allows him to take on most Skarmory more effectively than the SubSplit set, and if I do replace Gyarados with a Bulky DD Dragonite with Fire Punch (which is looking more and more likely), Skarmory becomes less of a problem.

As for Skarmory's Spikes; Dragonite, Weezing, and Gengar are all unaffected by them, and all three of them are capable of giving Skarmory trouble, particularly Weezing and Gengar. Weezing can burn Skarmory, greatly inhibiting it's ability to tank, and can also hit it for super-effective damage with both of its attacks.
 
I didn't make this team for stall in mind, since I usually don't encounter it...but you already noticed that. How would I deal with stall with the current way the team is set up?

Well, Snorlax can easily set up on stall teams unless they are packing Roar or Whirlwind. This takes care of Blissey.

Hippowdon, Swampert, and other bulky Ground types are either burnt by Weezing, hit hard with Gengar, or set up on with Gyarados. All three can come in with impunity a lot of the time. Swampert tends to be the trickiest to deal with due to it running Roar a lot of the time. That's one of the key reasons Gengar has Giga Drain.

Forretress and Skarmory are hit hard by Weezing, who doesn't care about Spikes. Gengar can also succeed against them to a lesser extent.

Both Jolteon and Gengar can hold their own against many bulky Waters.

Gengar and Weezing are immune to Toxic, and Snorlax can Rest it off.


I'm still open to any suggestions!
 
Pgirts said:
I didn't make this team for stall in mind, since I usually don't encounter it...but you already noticed that. How would I deal with stall with the current way the team is set up?

Well, Snorlax can easily set up on stall teams unless they are packing Roar or Whirlwind. This takes care of Blissey.

Hippowdon, Swampert, and other bulky Ground types are either burnt by Weezing, hit hard with Gengar, or set up on with Gyarados. All three can come in with impunity a lot of the time. Swampert tends to be the trickiest to deal with due to it running Roar a lot of the time. That's one of the key reasons Gengar has Giga Drain.

Forretress and Skarmory are hit hard by Weezing, who doesn't care about Spikes. Gengar can also succeed against them to a lesser extent.

Both Jolteon and Gengar can hold their own against many bulky Waters.

Gengar and Weezing are immune to Toxic, and Snorlax can Rest it off.


I'm still open to any suggestions!
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Lol, they always have a phazer. Have you tried Substitute and Pain Split on Gengar? Giga Drain and T-Bolt are for water types, which should be no problem to your team seeing as you have Snorlax and Jolteon. With the new set you'll be able to stall out Blissey and ease prediction (with sub).

I don't see what Weezing walls that your not better off setting up with Gyarados. If you want a Physical wall use Gliscor, between him and Gengar you'll have stall covered.

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Gliscor@Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Timid
252 HP / 216 Speed / 40 Def

-Taunt
-Toxic
-Roost
-Earthquake

This walls about the same threats Weezing did (Lucario, Flygon, Tyranitar) but has RELIABLE recovery. Trust me, stall hates seeing this as it shits on their team. Taunt any attempts at status/hazards, Toxic the whole team, Roost off damage you take, then chip away with Earthquake.


Last but not least your team doesn't like Rotom-A very much, change Earthquake to Crunch on Snorlax (You should be setting up on Heatran anyway), and change Body Slam to Return/Fustration since your team is pretty fast so paralysis won't matter, and maybe you wanted that threat Toxic/Burned instead (you're also using Curse and Snorlax wont outspeed even with the para).

EDIT:I didn't read your intro with Gen 1 Pokemon only, but i think Gliscor is still better lol. If its only the original Mons then a mix variant of Dragonite should replace Gyarados. You'll still be able to threaten Ground Types with Draco Meteor and is a very good stall breaker.

We all know how mixed Dragonite looks like, if you dont (and shame on you):http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dragonite
 
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