VGC 21 Kyogre [Series 11]

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[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, powerful rain-boosted Water-type attacks, and good bulk make it one of the biggest restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S, and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate, backup to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn threats like Zacian-C. Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Gigantamaxed Venusaur and Dynamaxed Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO on both. Alternatively, Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss but leaving Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's recoil lowering Water Spout's damage. A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at +1 from Tornadus's Max Airstream, as well outspeed them when they are at -1 from Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest lets Kyogre OHKO Thundurus with Water Spout while also having a chance to OHKO Zacian-C.

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return, Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti-synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as Zapdos and Venusaur with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, meaning Kyogre should exchange its speed for bulk if paired with it. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre, for it provides speed control with Electroweb while Kyogre can destroy Ground-types.

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Hello Evelyie, this analysis feels rushed please take your time implementing this, and you know where I am if you need help or have questions. Also I hope this doesn't sound harsh, just trying to QC.
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[SET]
name: Offensive Mystic Water (Usually when a Pokemon uses an item like Miracle seed that's the name of the set.)
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Wave Incense Mystic Water (Yuki told me it should be Mystic Water. Its good to try and avoid the incenses where possible to avoid confusion ig.)
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
The power of Kyogre's Water-type attacks, weather control and good bulk makes it a great sweeper.(This needs to be reworked, Try and merge "weather control" and the part about Kyogre's power as they are related but do not use the term "weather control". I advise you avoid the terminology "sweeper" yes Kyogre can sweep, however like many other Pokemon its effective beyond sweeping so instead simply saying its top-tier or something along those lines should suffice.) Water Spout is a devastating Water-type STAB at full HP(fluffy) spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of many Zacian-C(Give more examples.) Origin Pulse gives Kyogre a strong albeit inconsistent backs Kyogre up to Water Spout after its been harmed, while Scald provides more a weaker, but consistent option. accuracy and a chance to burn the opponent.(Scald is mainly justifiable because its consistent not because it can burn.) Ice Beam hits Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, and Thunder, opposing Kyogre. (I argue that Ice Beam is more important as Max Hailstorm to contend with Pokemon like Dyanamaxed Dragapult and Dyanamaxed Venusaur so change this area to reflect that you should probably further mention the downside of Max Hailstorm removing your rain. And as for the Thunder part its just poor writing try and fix that and I would also mention that it leaves it worse off versus Grass-types.) Wave Incense further boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks,(This is just dex info. To have meaningful information here you could mention that Mystic Water is used over Life Orb because Life Orb is unsynergetic with Water Spout) The given EV set paired with the Timid nature maximizes damage output and Speed, but Modest can be used to further increase its Special Attack.(No need to explain max max EV spreads, just mention the why you'd run timid and why Modest. Timid Kyogre can outspeed Jolly Zacian-C and Calyrex-S relevant when having it paired with Regieleki. Modest Water Spout has a much better roll to KO bulkier variants of Zacian-C and its pretty affordable considering Kyogre is very often paired with Tornadus. I also think its worth mentioning that Kyogre can run slower bulkier EV spreads on Trick Room teams)

(I think that Choice Scarf is worth mentioning as an alternative item.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, offering Speed control with Tailwind and or Max Airstream,(Its ability to check Grass-types is certainly noteworthy and pls try to fix up the grammar around this area.) while Kyogre's rain make Hurricane a sure-hit move. Dragapult resists Electric- and Grass-type attacks and K.O them back with Max Wyrmwind and Max Airstream, respectively.( Instead of making a long and overly complicated statement about how Dragapult resists grass and electric moves and than threatens those Pokemon back, you could more simply say checks since its obvious Dragapult has an advantageous matchup. Also provide examples of Grass- and Electric-types) Grass-types like Amoonguss greatly appreciates Drizzle while healing Kyogre with Pollen Puff.(It doesn't make sense to say "Grass-types like" and than only list amoonguss. Amoonguss isn't a particularly common or good partner so I wouldn't mind you cutting it. Though if you do plan on keeping it Amoonguss's redirection is certainly worth mentioning) Venusaur and Torkoal are a great combination to pair with Kyogre, creating a nice elemental defensive core and supporting it with status conditions in Sleep Powder and Yawn.("nice elemental defensive core" is fluff. Status conditions aren't really the big reason Venusaur and Torkoal are good with Kyogre. Venusaur shares great offensive synergy with Kyogre, Kyogre checks mons like Landorus-T and Fire-types and in return Venusaur is a great check to Regieleki. Torkoal doesn't have great synergy with Kyogre, its more just an enabler to Venusaur.) Furthermore, Grimmsnarl's dual screens support reduce the damage taken by Kyogre(Could be simplified. "bolster its defenses" something like that.) and preserves its Water Spout's damage.(Good chance that if you take even moderate damage Water Spout's going to be much weaker. I think what is far more worth mentioning would be that Grimmsnarl can support Kyogre with speed control.

(Porygon2 and Incineroar deserve to be mentioned imo. Porygon2 is what makes Kyogre TR teams function and Incineroar is one of the better options to help check Grass-types. Regieleki is another partner that deserves to be mentioned, Kyogre threatens Ground-types and Regieleki threatens most none Ground-type and can provide speed control via Electroweb.)

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Hello Evelyie, this analysis feels rushed please take your time implementing this, and you know where I am if you need help or have questions. Also I hope this doesn't sound harsh, just trying to QC.
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[SET]
name: Offensive Mystic Water (Usually when a Pokemon uses an item like Miracle seed that's the name of the set.)
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Wave Incense Mystic Water (Yuki told me it should be Mystic Water. Its good to try and avoid the incenses where possible to avoid confusion ig.)
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
The power of Kyogre's Water-type attacks, weather control and good bulk makes it a great sweeper.(This needs to be reworked, Try and merge "weather control" and the part about Kyogre's power as they are related but do not use the term "weather control". I advise you avoid the terminology "sweeper" yes Kyogre can sweep, however like many other Pokemon its effective beyond sweeping so instead simply saying its top-tier or something along those lines should suffice.) Water Spout is a devastating Water-type STAB at full HP(fluffy) spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of many Zacian-C(Give more examples.) Origin Pulse gives Kyogre a strong albeit inconsistent backs Kyogre up to Water Spout after its been harmed, while Scald provides more a weaker, but consistent option. accuracy and a chance to burn the opponent.(Scald is mainly justifiable because its consistent not because it can burn.) Ice Beam hits Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, and Thunder, opposing Kyogre. (I argue that Ice Beam is more important as Max Hailstorm to contend with Pokemon like Dyanamaxed Dragapult and Dyanamaxed Venusaur so change this area to reflect that you should probably further mention the downside of Max Hailstorm removing your rain. And as for the Thunder part its just poor writing try and fix that and I would also mention that it leaves it worse off versus Grass-types.) Wave Incense further boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks,(This is just dex info. To have meaningful information here you could mention that Mystic Water is used over Life Orb because Life Orb is unsynergetic with Water Spout) The given EV set paired with the Timid nature maximizes damage output and Speed, but Modest can be used to further increase its Special Attack.(No need to explain max max EV spreads, just mention the why you'd run timid and why Modest. Timid Kyogre can outspeed Jolly Zacian-C and Calyrex-S relevant when having it paired with Regieleki. Modest Water Spout has a much better roll to KO bulkier variants of Zacian-C and its pretty affordable considering Kyogre is very often paired with Tornadus. I also think its worth mentioning that Kyogre can run slower bulkier EV spreads on Trick Room teams)

(I think that Choice Scarf is worth mentioning as an alternative item.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, offering Speed control with Tailwind and or Max Airstream,(Its ability to check Grass-types is certainly noteworthy and pls try to fix up the grammar around this area.) while Kyogre's rain make Hurricane a sure-hit move. Dragapult resists Electric- and Grass-type attacks and K.O them back with Max Wyrmwind and Max Airstream, respectively.( Instead of making a long and overly complicated statement about how Dragapult resists grass and electric moves and than threatens those Pokemon back, you could more simply say checks since its obvious Dragapult has an advantageous matchup. Also provide examples of Grass- and Electric-types) Grass-types like Amoonguss greatly appreciates Drizzle while healing Kyogre with Pollen Puff.(It doesn't make sense to say "Grass-types like" and than only list amoonguss. Amoonguss isn't a particularly common or good partner so I wouldn't mind you cutting it. Though if you do plan on keeping it Amoonguss's redirection is certainly worth mentioning) Venusaur and Torkoal are a great combination to pair with Kyogre, creating a nice elemental defensive core and supporting it with status conditions in Sleep Powder and Yawn.("nice elemental defensive core" is fluff. Status conditions aren't really the big reason Venusaur and Torkoal are good with Kyogre. Venusaur shares great offensive synergy with Kyogre, Kyogre checks mons like Landorus-T and Fire-types and in return Venusaur is a great check to Regieleki. Torkoal doesn't have great synergy with Kyogre, its more just an enabler to Venusaur.) Furthermore, Grimmsnarl's dual screens support reduce the damage taken by Kyogre(Could be simplified. "bolster its defenses" something like that.) and preserves its Water Spout's damage.(Good chance that if you take even moderate damage Water Spout's going to be much weaker. I think what is far more worth mentioning would be that Grimmsnarl can support Kyogre with speed control.

(Porygon2 and Incineroar deserve to be mentioned imo. Porygon2 is what makes Kyogre TR teams function and Incineroar is one of the better options to help check Grass-types. Regieleki is another partner that deserves to be mentioned, Kyogre threatens Ground-types and Regieleki threatens most none Ground-type and can provide speed control via Electroweb.)

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Some feedback:
"it feels rushed" - stop with this
> You are quite harsh with the QC, and it turns the proccess unenjoyable to develop
> You say "its X", "its Y" sometimes without saying why
> Why have you done your changes? Its useful to know sometimes
> Explain the way. You say "this is wrong" but you don't lead me to the right path.
"(This needs to be reworked, Try and merge "weather control" and the part about Kyogre's power as they are related but do not use the term "weather control". I advise you avoid the terminology "sweeper" yes Kyogre can sweep, however like many other Pokemon its effective beyond sweeping so instead simply saying its top-tier or something along those lines should suffice.)"
Ok, don't use 2 terms. And?
 
Very Sorry that the check was difficult to try and implement I really did not think it would be so unclear, and ty for the feedback, tried to make something more clear. Implement this well and I think Ill be able too stamp soon.
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's Water-type attacks boosted by rain(Sentence to introduce the Pokemon feels lacking how about something along the lines of its "high special attack stat, and Drizzle further boosting the power of its attacks" Perhaps go on further as to how Water Spout is an oppressively powerful move) and good bulk make it a great(I would rather you use vocabulary that says its one of the best.) rRestricted Pokemon threat. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after its Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam turns into Max Hailstorm, hitting Dragapult and Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, but removing rain.(I would like this to be changed to something alone the lines of "Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO onto both." Ice Beam already damages those Pokemon so its important to not just say "hits".) Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Torkoal,(AC) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable("More vulnerable" because Rain boosted Max Geyser still does a lot.) to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks.(Mention how Mystic Water is used as apposed to Life Orb as a damage boosting item due to it being anti-synergistic with Water Spout. Or give relevant Mystic Water related caluclations, or say it gives Kyogre a really strong Water Spout, your choice but this should change because as it is now its mostly dex info.) The A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at -+1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one. (Explain specifically why these are relevant benchmarks, which is because Tornadus and Regieleki are common partners Tornadus has Max Airstream and Regieleki. while Modest can OHKO bulky Zacian-C. (Should be more examples than this but you can fix that later.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offering Speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and checkwhile a Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return (I cut while earlier, you use while a lot.)Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult resists(It isn't appropriate grammar to say you resist a Pokemon, as you resist the Pokemon's attacks not the Pokemon itself and at that point its overly wordy.) helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regielekei Regieleki,(AC) and offers Speed control with Max Airstream. Grass-types like Amoonguss and Venusaur resists Regieleki, while Kyogre checks Landorus-T (Venusaur has a lot going on for it and I think it deserves to be mentioned apart from Amoonguss. Kyogre also checks Fire-types which is certainly worth mentioning and emphasize how good a partner Venusaur is, as sun Kyogre is probably one of the very best teams in the format. I want you to mention how Venusaur should still be used alongside Torkoal despite being anti synergistic with Kyogre, because enabling Venusaur is well worth it.)and Fire-types like Charizard and Incineroar.(This point is incomplete and you do mention Incineroar later. Charizard isn't a common Kyogre partner so I think its best to leave it out.) Grimmsnarl's dual screens support boosts Defense and offers Speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can set Trick Room, allowing Kyogre to exchange Speed for bulk.(Smart idea to move the part about Kyogre changing its EV spread to where you mention p2. Though you should first expand upon the first point and not just have "Porygon2 can set Trick Room" maybe add on Eerie Impulse neutering threats to Kyogre like...) Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki(I want you to emphasize that they pair well together.) can provides Speed control with Electroweb while Kyogre checks Ground-types.

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Yourwelcomethanku said:
Very Sorry that the check was difficult to try and implement I really did not think it would be so unclear, and ty for the feedback, tried to make something more clear. Implement this well and I think Ill be able too stamp soon.
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's Water-type attacks boosted by rain(Sentence to introduce the Pokemon feels lacking how about something along the lines of its "high special attack stat, and Drizzle further boosting the power of its attacks" Perhaps go on further as to how Water Spout is an oppressively powerful move) and good bulk make it a great(I would rather you use vocabulary that says its one of the best.) rRestricted Pokemon threat. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after its Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam turns into Max Hailstorm, hitting Dragapult and Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, but removing rain.(I would like this to be changed to something alone the lines of "Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO onto both." Ice Beam already damages those Pokemon so its important to not just say "hits".) Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Torkoal,(AC) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable("More vulnerable" because Rain boosted Max Geyser still does a lot.) to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks.(Mention how Mystic Water is used as apposed to Life Orb as a damage boosting item due to it being anti-synergistic with Water Spout. Or give relevant Mystic Water related caluclations, or say it gives Kyogre a really strong Water Spout, your choice but this should change because as it is now its mostly dex info.) The A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at -+1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one. (Explain specifically why these are relevant benchmarks, which is because Tornadus and Regieleki are common partners Tornadus has Max Airstream and Regieleki. while Modest can OHKO bulky Zacian-C. (Should be more examples than this but you can fix that later.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offering Speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and checkwhile a Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return (I cut while earlier, you use while a lot.)Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult resists(It isn't appropriate grammar to say you resist a Pokemon, as you resist the Pokemon's attacks not the Pokemon itself and at that point its overly wordy.) helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regielekei Regieleki,(AC) and offers Speed control with Max Airstream. Grass-types like Amoonguss and Venusaur resists Regieleki, while Kyogre checks Landorus-T (Venusaur has a lot going on for it and I think it deserves to be mentioned apart from Amoonguss. Kyogre also checks Fire-types which is certainly worth mentioning and emphasize how good a partner Venusaur is, as sun Kyogre is probably one of the very best teams in the format. I want you to mention how Venusaur should still be used alongside Torkoal despite being anti synergistic with Kyogre, because enabling Venusaur is well worth it.)and Fire-types like Charizard and Incineroar.(This point is incomplete and you do mention Incineroar later. Charizard isn't a common Kyogre partner so I think its best to leave it out.) Grimmsnarl's dual screens support boosts Defense and offers Speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can set Trick Room, allowing Kyogre to exchange Speed for bulk.(Smart idea to move the part about Kyogre changing its EV spread to where you mention p2. Though you should first expand upon the first point and not just have "Porygon2 can set Trick Room" maybe add on Eerie Impulse neutering threats to Kyogre like...) Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki(I want you to emphasize that they pair well together.) can provides Speed control with Electroweb while Kyogre checks Ground-types.

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This is looking very close I just want to take a last look after this. Mainly cleaning up the grammar to try and make GPs life easier.
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, Water-type attacks boosted by rain and good bulk make it one of the biggest Restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam turns into Max Hailstorm, hitting Dragapult and Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, but removing rain. "Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO onto both. (It seems you left in part of the last QC check, fix this to what you meant to have here.)Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss Torkoal,(you could also OHKO Torkoal, even in sun.) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's HP cost. (Explain that's ungood because it weakens Water Spout.)A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at -(Remove)+1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one,(AC) when paired with both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can OHKO bulky Zacian-C and Groudon in sun Groudon in sun with Modest Max Geyser based off Water Spout most of the time, and bulky Zacian-C with Water Spout. (I imagine? I'd rather you find a different example than the Groudon one though its not necessary to change.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer Speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers Speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although requiring Torkoal's support resists Regieleki, while Kyogre checks Landorus-T, making a powerful combination even if Torkoal's anti-synergetic. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. (trying to make it flow better and make sense. I also added the word "near" because I feel that Kyogre rain is one of the few teams where you can actually justify no Torkoal be it niche. Feel free to axe the word near if you disagree.)Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and Speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as reduce Yveltal's Zapdos (More obviously a threat to Kyogre.)and Venusaur's Special attack with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, allowing Kyogre to exchange its Speed for bulk. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure.,(RC AP) while Kyogre hits Groudon and Landorus-T. (True but less important to mention here than in the point about Regieleki, and mentioning it in both would be repetitive and obvious.)Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre for it provides Speed control with Electroweb, While Kyogre can destroy Ground-types. allowing Kyogre to strike its powerful Water Spout safely.(Not critical to mention the benefit of speed control here.)

Sorry this is late but I realized Kartana probably deserves mention its critical to some Kyogre teams. I think it would be good to mention it after you mention Venusaur as an alternative Regieleki check. You could mention its advantages over Venusaur, such as not mandating Torkoal and Max Airstream. Maybe not being Eerie Impulse vulnerable is worth mentioning too.
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Yourwelcomethanku said:
This is looking very close I just want to take a last look after this. Mainly cleaning up the grammar to try and make GPs life easier.
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, Water-type attacks boosted by rain and good bulk make it one of the biggest Restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam turns into Max Hailstorm, hitting Dragapult and Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss, but removing rain. "Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO onto both. (It seems you left in part of the last QC check, fix this to what you meant to have here.)Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss Torkoal,(you could also OHKO Torkoal, even in sun.) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's HP cost. (Explain that's ungood because it weakens Water Spout.)A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at -(Remove)+1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one,(AC) when paired with both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can OHKO bulky Zacian-C and Groudon in sun Groudon in sun with Modest Max Geyser based off Water Spout most of the time, and bulky Zacian-C with Water Spout. (I imagine? I'd rather you find a different example than the Groudon one though its not necessary to change.)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer Speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers Speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although requiring Torkoal's support resists Regieleki, while Kyogre checks Landorus-T, making a powerful combination even if Torkoal's anti-synergetic. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. (trying to make it flow better and make sense. I also added the word "near" because I feel that Kyogre rain is one of the few teams where you can actually justify no Torkoal be it niche. Feel free to axe the word near if you disagree.)Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and Speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as reduce Yveltal's Zapdos (More obviously a threat to Kyogre.)and Venusaur's Special attack with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, allowing Kyogre to exchange its Speed for bulk. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure.,(RC AP) while Kyogre hits Groudon and Landorus-T. (True but less important to mention here than in the point about Regieleki, and mentioning it in both would be repetitive and obvious.)Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre for it provides Speed control with Electroweb, While Kyogre can destroy Ground-types. allowing Kyogre to strike its powerful Water Spout safely.(Not critical to mention the benefit of speed control here.)

Sorry this is late but I realized Kartana probably deserves mention its critical to some Kyogre teams. I think it would be good to mention it after you mention Venusaur as an alternative Regieleki check. You could mention its advantages over Venusaur, such as not mandating Torkoal and Max Airstream. Maybe not being Eerie Impulse vulnerable is worth mentioning too.
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implemented didnt put the kartana thing bc it sucks
 
Good work content wise QC 1/1
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, powerful Water-type attacks further boosted by rain,(AC) and good bulk make it one of the biggest Restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO onto both. Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's HP cost that lowers Water Spout's B.(Removed space) A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at +1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one, both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can OHKO bulky Zacian-C with Water Spout (You can OHKO support Thundurus with Water Spout too, and also its a favorable roll on Zacian-C with Water Spout, change this accordingly)

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer Speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers Speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and Speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as Zapdos and Venusaur with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, allowing Kyogre to exchange its Speed for bulk. meaning Kyogre should exchange its speed for bulk.(I just want it to be very clear.) Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre for it provides Speed control with Electroweb, While Kyogre can destroy Ground-types.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Evelyie, 541609]]
- Quality checked by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]
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name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, powerful Water-type attacks further boosted by rain, and good bulk make it one of the biggest Restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S,(AC) and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult(not sure how you would word this, but maybe mention gmax for venusaur), threatening a 2HKO onto on both. Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss,(AC) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's HP cost recoil that lowers Water Spout's damage. A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at +1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one -1, both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can OHKO Thundurus (with what)while also having a chance to OHKO Zacian-C.

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer Speed speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers Speed speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and Speed speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as Zapdos and Venusaur with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, meaning Kyogre should exchange its speed for bulk. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre for it provides Speed speed control with Electroweb, While while Kyogre can destroy Ground-types.

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- Written by: [[Evelyie, 541609]]
- Quality checked by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
good job! :blobthumbsup:
 
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name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, powerful Water-type attacks further boosted by rain, and good bulk make it one of the biggest Restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S,(AC) and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate back up to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn. Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Dynamaxed Venusaur and Dragapult(not sure how you would word this, but maybe mention gmax for venusaur), threatening a 2HKO onto on both. Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss,(AC) yet it leaves Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's HP cost recoil that lowers Water Spout's damage. A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at +1, as well outspeed them when they are at minus one -1, both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can OHKO Thundurus (with what)while also having a chance to OHKO Zacian-C.

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer Speed speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream, and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers Speed speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti synergistic Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and Speed speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as Zapdos and Venusaur with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, meaning Kyogre should exchange its speed for bulk. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre for it provides Speed speed control with Electroweb, While while Kyogre can destroy Ground-types.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Evelyie, 541609]]
- Quality checked by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
good job! :blobthumbsup:
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GP 1/1
[SET]
name: Mystic Water
move 1: Water Spout
move 2: Origin Pulse / Scald
move 3: Ice Beam / Thunder
move 4: Protect
item: Mystic Water
ability: Drizzle
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Kyogre's high Special Attack, powerful rain-boosted Water-type attacks further boosted by rain, and good bulk make it one of the biggest restricted threats. Water Spout is a devastating spread move, being able to OHKO the likes of Zacian-C, Calyrex-S, and Incineroar. Origin Pulse is a powerful, although inaccurate, (AC) back up backup to Water Spout after Kyogre has been harmed, while Scald is a weaker but consistent option with a chance to burn.(dex info, better to list a couple physical attackers it would neuter if possible) Ice Beam is mainly useful for Max Hailstorm, to let Kyogre best contend with the likes of Gigantamaxed Venusaur and Dynamaxed Dragapult, threatening a 2HKO on both. Alternatively, Thunder hits opposing Kyogre and turns into Max Lightning, which sets Electric Terrain blocking Yawn from Umbreon and Spore from Amoonguss, yet it leaves but leaving Kyogre more vulnerable to Grass-types. Mystic Water boosts Kyogre's Water-type attacks with no drawbacks, as opposed to Life Orb's recoil that lowers lowering Water Spout's damage. A Timid nature allows Kyogre to outspeed Calyrex-S and Zacian-C at +1 from Tornadus's Max Airstream, as well outspeed them when they are at -1, both relevant because Kyogre is often paired with Tornadus's Max Airstream and from Regieleki's Electroweb, while Modest can lets Kyogre OHKO Thundurus with Water Spout while also having a chance to OHKO Zacian-C.

Tornadus is a staple partner to Kyogre, as it can offer speed control with Tailwind and Max Airstream (RC) and check Grass-types such as Venusaur and Rillaboom. In return, (AC) Kyogre's rain turns Hurricane into a sure-hit move. Dragapult helps handle threats to Kyogre like Venusaur and Regieleki and offers speed control with Max Airstream. Venusaur, although near requiring the support of the anti-synergistic (AH) Torkoal, is an amazing partner for Kyogre, as it checks Regieleki well, while Kyogre can help deal with Ground- and Fire-types such as Landorus-T and Incineroar. Grimmsnarl's dual screens support and speed control help Kyogre pressure the opponent more safely. Porygon2 can weaken threats to Kyogre such as Zapdos and Venusaur with Eerie Impulse and set Trick Room, meaning Kyogre should exchange its speed for bulk if paired with it. Incineroar can check Venusaur and Amoonguss for Kyogre and also offers Fake Out pressure. Regieleki pairs excellently with Kyogre, (AC) for it provides speed control with Electroweb (RC) while Kyogre can destroy Ground-types.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Evelyie, 541609]]
- Quality checked by: [[Yourwelcomethanku, 541847]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 
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