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Kyurem (Update) [QC 2/3]
- Thread starter Halcyon.
- Start date
ok just an FYI, if you want a check, generally what makes it easier is if the analysis doesn't have random bits of bold, or strike throughs every couple of lines, it just destroys any interest I might have in sitting down and reading it from top to bottom. Like for instance the last sentence of your overview is just jarring and exceptionally hard to read.
Secondly, your overview is very likely too big for Kyurem. Its hard to fell since its littered with strikethroughs, but I know C&C wanted to cut down on the size of overviews, and yours is rather large.
Actually you know what, fix the formatting, and ill go through it further, but for now its v. frustrating, and you need to fix it regardless for GP, so you might as well get it fixed now.
Secondly, your overview is very likely too big for Kyurem. Its hard to fell since its littered with strikethroughs, but I know C&C wanted to cut down on the size of overviews, and yours is rather large.
Actually you know what, fix the formatting, and ill go through it further, but for now its v. frustrating, and you need to fix it regardless for GP, so you might as well get it fixed now.
Just from my experience in spamming subroost Kyurem on the ladder, LO is a good option, but only in Hail AND if you carry blizzard. The ability to get past SpDef Jirachi and smash things after you get the sub up is very handy, though you need to be extremely careful about how you PP stall things when spamming substitute.
Definitely not recommended outside the conditions I just listed.
Definitely not recommended outside the conditions I just listed.
I didn't realise a QC member would tell you to do that, IDK why they thought it was a good idea since it had terrible readability but whatever, its fixed now.
(In future can the QC member who told you to format that way plz not do so in future, it was rly bad)
-Overview is 2 long. I said this before, and your aware of it, just stating it again so I can put everything in one post.
Personally, I feel like rewording this. Ferrothorn and Bronzong never jump to mind as beating Kyurem but idk, thats just me.
-AC Outrage on the mixed set. It was in the set before simply because the set was mixed focus, and it still deserves a mention if you run Life Orb, since you can ideally break Blissey with some prior damage (iirc). Its only OO because Cube-B technically does the mixed thing better, but I guess its nice if you want your Kyurem to not be walled by Blissey or something, and you don't want to use Kyurem-B
-I don't like Bronzong being given such a prominent mention. It loses to Sub Roost Kyurem (the most common set), and takes 48% max from LO Focus Blast, which is a fair amount considering Bronzong has no recovery of its own.
Reword this as its a little bit confusing as to which pokemon is losing. Cube will beat Chansey eventually (unless Chansey has SR, in which case it can potentially use its 32 PP to outstall Cube I think), especially with Toxic Spikes damage, but Chansey will win if Toxic Spikes are up against Kyurem. TBH, I don't like Chansey being discussed in a negative light (eg will usually lead to defeat), when nothing stops it from spamming its heals, and kyurem isn't really beating it without significant investment. Chansey just parks its ass, maybe throws out a wish while you both waste PP trying to beat each other, its sure as hell not going to let you abuse Pressure, unless it has nothing better to do.
Everything else looks fine tho.
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(In future can the QC member who told you to format that way plz not do so in future, it was rly bad)
-Overview is 2 long. I said this before, and your aware of it, just stating it again so I can put everything in one post.
Personally, I feel like rewording this. Ferrothorn and Bronzong never jump to mind as beating Kyurem but idk, thats just me.
-AC Outrage on the mixed set. It was in the set before simply because the set was mixed focus, and it still deserves a mention if you run Life Orb, since you can ideally break Blissey with some prior damage (iirc). Its only OO because Cube-B technically does the mixed thing better, but I guess its nice if you want your Kyurem to not be walled by Blissey or something, and you don't want to use Kyurem-B
-I don't like Bronzong being given such a prominent mention. It loses to Sub Roost Kyurem (the most common set), and takes 48% max from LO Focus Blast, which is a fair amount considering Bronzong has no recovery of its own.
Reword this as its a little bit confusing as to which pokemon is losing. Cube will beat Chansey eventually (unless Chansey has SR, in which case it can potentially use its 32 PP to outstall Cube I think), especially with Toxic Spikes damage, but Chansey will win if Toxic Spikes are up against Kyurem. TBH, I don't like Chansey being discussed in a negative light (eg will usually lead to defeat), when nothing stops it from spamming its heals, and kyurem isn't really beating it without significant investment. Chansey just parks its ass, maybe throws out a wish while you both waste PP trying to beat each other, its sure as hell not going to let you abuse Pressure, unless it has nothing better to do.
Everything else looks fine tho.
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Remove this part, it's trivial info, and besides you should never do it because you don't gain anything significant with a mere 20 more EVs on SpA.First set's AC said:
When talking about using Dragon Pulse + Focus Blast, mention some of the targets that Focus Blast hits harder than any of the main set's moves, such as Ferrothorn and Tyranitar, as well as some popular targets of Dragon Pulse, such as Starmie, Keldeo, and Politoed.
Remove the mention of HP Fire from the AC of the first set. It is too niche, being useful only to OHKO Scizor, because Ferrothorn loses anyway as you explained. If you want to mention it somewhere, do it it in the OO (specifically for the first set i mean not as a move in general).
Why? Mention specifically why Starmie works good with Kyurem, aside from Rapid Spin support.First set's AC said:
Why is the help to beat opposing rain teams needed? This sentence implies that rain teams have problems against other rain teams, which is both a really vague and weird thing to imply. I would remove it altogether.First set's AC said:
On the offensive set you mentioned partners to lure and cripple the blobs but not partners to straight up deal with them (as in Pokemon that are able to switch into them and beat them) so add some of those.
Remove any move which is not worth using at all from this list. OO is not the place to list the physical moves that Kyurem gets, just those that have very small use.OO said:
Why Protect and not Roost? Also, you say that there is little reason to use it but don't actually mention what this reason is, so please do (i assume the only one is Pressure).OO said:
Finally, please organize your checks and counters section so that you mention the Pokemon there in order of how well they deal with Kyurem. For example, Chansey and Blissey should be at the top of this section, as they are the best counters to Kyurem.
Ok, this has been at the back of my mind for a while now, but I implemented all of these changes. Again, sorry for the wait.
