Lickilicky (Analysis)

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Lickilicky


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[Overview]

<p>The super-cute, long-tongued Lickilicky returns this generation to find himself once again locked firmly in the UU tier. Lickilicky is by no means a bad Pokemon; solid 110/95/95 bulk paired with respectable attack stats and a fabulous movepool means that Lickilicky is easy to fit into any team. He was given some fun new toys this generation in Dragon Tail, Work Up, and an improved Disable. The problem for Lickilicky is that for every set that he can run, something else can usually do it better, or at least differently. Chansey, Alomomola, and Clefable give Lickilicky competition as a support Pokemon, the former two passing more health per Wish and the latter having Magic Guard and Encore. Luckily for Lickilicky, he's not as vulnerable as Chansey and Alomomola are to physical and special attacks, respectively, and he is bulkier and more powerful than Clefable. Offensively, a plethora of physical and special sweepers hit harder and out-perform Lickilicky, despite his amazing coverage and bulk. A low 50 base Speed doesn't help get things done, either.</p>

<p>Never underestimate this rotund licking monster, however; his expansive movepool will leave the opponent guessing repeatedly about the moves he is carrying, and one misprediction can spell doom for your foe. Passing large Wishes, phazing with Dragon Tail, breaking walls with Life Orb sets...Lickilicky can practically do it all. And, when all else fails, Lickilicky can still exit the field in booming style, slinging a STAB Explosion into your opposition's face.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect
move 3: Return
move 4: Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Licklicky is a great support Pokemon for any team, setting himself apart from others with Dragon Tail, reliable attacking power, and balanced defenses. Wish and Protect allow Lickilicky to heal both himself and his team, passing 212 HP per Wish, the third-highest amount in the tier after Chansey and Alomomola. Unlike those two, Lickilicky has Return to provide him with a consistent and powerful STAB attack. He also doesn't have to fear special attacks like Alomomola or physical attacks like Chansey; having balanced defenses gives Lickilicky an advantage when supporting the team compared to them. Dragon Tail is a great move that lets Lickilicky scout and phaze at the same time. Since he has ample bulk to take hits, the negative priority of Dragon Tail is usually not an issue.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>One of Lickilicky's greatest weapons is his unpredictability. There are several other options Lickilicky could utilize to support the team, including Heal Bell, Knock Off and Disable. Heal Bell turns Lickilicky into a clerical support Pokemon, curing your team of status effects. Knock Off rids the opponent of their precious items, crippling Eviolite users and neutering the power of Choice items. Disable can lock the foe out of an important move, giving one of your teammates a great chance to switch in and set up. If used, Heal Bell, Knock Off, or Disable should replace Dragon Tail; however, Lickilicky is typically more useful as a phazer. Explosion can be used over Return as a last-ditch effort to take something down with Lickilicky. The Explosion nerf was horrible for Pokemon such as Azelf, but having STAB with it still lets Lickilicky use Explosion well, and he can usually guarantee a KO against foes who don't resist it. Prediction is key when using Explosion, though; Lickilicky's low speed can make it a bit tricky to effectively time Explosion.</p>

<p>Lickilicky greatly appreciates entry hazards with this set since they help him rack up damage when phazing with Dragon Tail. Scolipede, Roserade, and Froslass work especially well since they aren't afraid of the Fighting-type attacks that are guaranteed to be sent Lickilicky's way. Speaking of Froslass, Ghost-types without reliable healing are great partners for Lickilicky; most can cripple Fighting-types with Will-o-Wisp and love the Wish support Lickilicky provides.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Lickilicky has a very large movepool, but most of what he can outside of supporting is outclassed by other Pokemon. Boosting with Swords Dance, Work Up, or Curse would be plausible if it weren't for the plethora of Fighting-types running around. Any Lickilicky that boosts is a sitting duck for Fighting-type attacks, which usually dispose of him in one hit despite his bulk. There are some great coverage moves in Lickilicky's arsenal, including Ice Beam, Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Surf on the special side and Aqua Tail, Power Whip, Earthquake, Brick Break, Facade, Rock Slide, the elemental punches, Hammer Arm, Gyro Ball, and Zen Headbutt as physical options. Any of these attacks could be used for coverage depending on what your team needs to counter; Lickilicky has enough offensive capability to use them effectively in most cases.</p>

<p>Body Slam is another option for STAB, trading some power for the chance to paralyze. This would be a fantastic option on the support set if Body Slam were not illegal with Wish. A SubPunch set is viable with Lickilicky's bulk and moderate power, but there are faster and stronger Pokemon who are better SubPunchers. Counter can catch an opponent completely off guard and grab a surprise KO. RestTalk works well with Lickilicky's natural bulk, but healing with Wish is more reliable and supports the team at the same time.</p>

<p>Cloud Nine is new for Lickilicky this generation, and is useful when using him to support on a Sandstorm or Hail team. Weather isn't that common in the UU tier, but neither is confusion. Cloud Nine is a perfectly acceptable alternative to Own Tempo, depending on whether one fears confusion or weather more. The biggest problem with Cloud Nine is that it is not legal with Wish, one of Lickilicky's main selling points.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Lickilicky is very difficult to counter initially due to his large and unpredictable movepool. Regardless, strong Fighting-type moves break Lickilicky down pretty quickly, and most Fighting-types are quick enough to outpace Lickilicky and KO him before he can strike. Toxic and Will-o-Wisp screw up Lickilicky's bulk and durability, and the latter severs the damage output of Return and Dragon Tail. Taunt stops Lickilicky from healing himself and his team.</p>
 
I think you should put wish on the support set so it can live longer then that means the slashes should be differnt

Move: Wish
Move: Knock Of / Dragon Tail
Move: Protect
Move: Toxic / Return
Thats how I look at it, hope I help.
 
I think you should put wish on the support set so it can live longer then that means the slashes should be differnt

Move: Wish
Move: Knock Of / Dragon Tail
Move: Protect
Move: Toxic / Return
Thats how I look at it, hope I help.

I left Wish out of the analysis, because I wasn't sure if it was still legal.
 

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The Work Up and Swords Dance sets don't look very good. It's OHKO'd by pretty much every Fighting type, and seems a bit slow to do anything. Just my opinion though, I haven't seen it used to great effect.

What about a Sleep Talk / Mono Attacker set?

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Curse
move 4: Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Cloud Nine
nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef
 
The Work Up and Swords Dance sets don't look very good. It's OHKO'd by pretty much every Fighting type, and seems a bit slow to do anything. Just my opinion though, I haven't seen it used to great effect.

What about a Sleep Talk / Mono Attacker set?

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Curse
move 4: Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Cloud Nine
nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef
Without any STAB, it wouldn't threaten anything in the long run. And I'm pretty sure it would be bowled over by something like Hitmontop anyways. Slash it alongside Body Slam / Return maybe, but I'm not to sure it should have its own section.
 
I think you should definitely mention Wish, even though it's not legal with Cloud Nine. Weather is'nt too dominant in UU or even RU, so Own Tempo can be used too to allow the use of Wish, wich is gonna make Lickilicky an even better supporter.
 
Blocking weather in UU is not nearly as important as an awesome move like Wish. 8-turn weather is non-existant and blocking sand/hail is kind of pointless for Lickilicky. Other QC members should help with the EV spread, but the main set should probably look like this:

name: Support
move 1: Return
move 2: Wish
move 3: Protect
move 4: Dragon Tail / Shadow Ball
item: Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Careful / Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

I also don't like the look of the offensive sets. What's the point when Hitmontop is going to be carelessly switching in every time? I'll talk to other QC, but for now the set above should be the only set listed, with Swords Dance, Curse, and Cloud Nine in AC.
 
Blocking weather in UU is not nearly as important as an awesome move like Wish. 8-turn weather is non-existant and blocking sand/hail is kind of pointless for Lickilicky. Other QC members should help with the EV spread, but the main set should probably look like this:

name: Support
move 1: Return
move 2: Wish
move 3: Protect
move 4: Dragon Tail / Shadow Ball
item: Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Careful / Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

I also don't like the look of the offensive sets. What's the point when Hitmontop is going to be carelessly switching in every time? I'll talk to other QC, but for now the set above should be the only set listed, with Swords Dance, Curse, and Cloud Nine in AC.

Changes implemented. I left Shadow Ball in OO, because (from my experience) Lickilicky would rather phaze out the Ghosts than fight them; most ghosts in UU are specially-bulky anyways, so Shadow Ball doesn't scare them too much.
 

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Mention Heal Bell and Knock Off in AC (Heal Bell and Wish can't be run on the same set though iirc).



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-Point out that Explosion is awesome despite the nerf, because it has STAB

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Man, Cloud Nine, Body Slam both incompatible with Wish :/
 

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[Overview]

<p>The super-cute, long-tongued Lickilicky returns this generation to find himself once again locked firmly in the UU tier. Lickilicky is by no means a bad Pokemon; solid 110/95/95 bulk paired with respectable attack stats and a fabulous movepool means that Lickilicky is easy to fit into any team. He was given some fun new toys this generation in Dragon Tail, Work Up, and an improved Disable. The problem for Lickilicky is that for every set that he can run, something else can usually do it better, or at least differently. Chansey, Alomomola, and Clefable give Lickilicky competition as a supporter, the former two passing more health per Wish and the latter having Magic Guard and Encore. Luckily for Lickilicky, he's not as vulnerable as Chansey and Alomomola are to physical and special attacks, respectively, and he is bulkier and more powerful than Clefable. Offensively speaking, a plethora of physical and special sweepers hit harder and out-perform Lickilicky's offensive sets, despite his amazing coverage and bulk. A low base Speed of 50 doesn't help get things done, either.</p>

<p>Never underestimate this rotund licking monster, however though; his expansive movepool will leave the opponent guessing repeatedly about the moves he is carrying, and one misprediction can spell doom for your foe. Passing large Wishes, phazing with Dragon Tail, breaking walls with Life Orb sets...Lickilicky can practically do it all. And, when all else fails, Lickilicky can still exit the field in booming style, slinging a STAB Explosion into your opposition's face.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect
move 3: Return
move 4: Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD


[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Licklicky is a great supporter for any team, setting himself apart from others supporters with Dragon Tail, reliable attacking power, and balanced defenses. Wish and Protect allow Lickilicky to heal both himself and his team, passing 212 health per Wish, the third-highest amount in the tier after Chansey and Alomomola. Unlike those two, Lickilicky has Return to provide him with a consistent and powerful STAB attack that lets him hit hard. He also doesn't have to fear special attacks like Alomomola or physical attacks like Chansey; having balanced defenses gives Lickilicky an advantage when supporting the team compared to them. Dragon Tail is a great move that lets Lickilicky scout and phaze at the same time. Since Lickilicky he has ample bulk to take hits, so the negative priority of Dragon Tail is usually not an issue.</p>
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[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>One of Lickilicky's greatest weapons is his unpredictability. There are several other options Lickilicky could utilize to support the team, including Knock Off and Disable. Knock Off rids the opponent of their precious items, crippling Eviolite users and neutering the power of Choice items. Disable can lock the foe out of an important move, giving one of your teammates a great chance to switch in and set up. If used, Knock Off or Disable should replace Dragon Tail; however, Lickilicky is typically more useful as a phazer. Explosion can be used over Return as a last-ditch effort to take something down with Lickilicky. The Explosion nerf really sucks was horrible for Pokemon like such as Azelf, but having STAB with it still lets Lickilicky use Explosion well, and he can usually guarantee a KO against foes who don't resist it. Prediction is key when going out with a bang using Explosion, though; Lickilicky's low speed can make it a bit tricky to effectively time Explosion.</p>

<p>Lickilicky greatly appreciates entry hazards with this set because since they help him rack up damage when phazing with Dragon Tail. Scolipede, Roserade, and Froslass work especially well since they aren't afraid of the Fighting-type attacks that are guaranteed to be sent Lickilicky's way. Speaking of Froslass, Ghost-types without reliable healing are great partners for Lickilicky; most can cripple Fighting-types with Will-o-Wisp and love the Wish support Lickilicky provides.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Lickilicky has a very large movepool, but most of what he can outside of supporting is outclassed by other Pokemon. Boosting with Swords Dance, Work Up, and Curse would be plausible if it weren't for the plethora of Fighting-types running around all over the place. Any Lickilicky that boosts is a sitting duck for Fighting-type attacks, which usually dispose of him in one hit despite his bulk. There are some great coverage moves in Lickilicky's arsenal, including Ice Beam, Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Surf on the special side and Aqua Tail, Power Whip, Earthquake, Brick Break, Facade, Rock Slide, the elemental punches, Hammer Arm, Gyro Ball, and Zen Headbutt as physical options. Any of these attacks could be used for coverage depending on what your team needs to counter; Lickilicky has enough base power offensive capability to use them effectively in most cases.</p>

<p>Body Slam is another option for STAB, trading some power for the chance to paralyze. This would be a fantastic option on the support set if Body Slam were not illegal with Wish. Heal Bell would be another great support option for Lickilicky, but also has legality issues with Wish. according to Charmander, Heal Bell and Wish are possible together A SubPunch set is viable with Lickilicky's bulk and moderate power, but there are faster and stronger Pokemon who are better SubPunchers. Counter can catch an opponent completely off guard and grab a surprise KO. RestTalk works well with Lickilicky's natural bulk, but healing with Wish is more reliable and supports the team at the same time.</p>

<p>Cloud Nine is new for Lickilicky this generation, and is useful when using him to support on a Sandstorm or Hail team. Weather isn't that common in the UU tier, but neither is confusion. Cloud Nine is a perfectly acceptable alternative to Own Tempo, depending on whether one fears confusion or weather more. The biggest problem with Cloud Nine is that it is not legal with Wish, one of Lickilicky's main selling points.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Lickilicky is very difficult to counter initially due to his large and unpredictable movepool. Regardless, strong Fighting-type moves break Lickilicky down pretty quickly, and most Fighting-types are quick enough to outpace Lickilicky and KO him before he can strike. Toxic and Will-o-Wisp screw up Lickilicky's bulk and durability, and the latter severs the damage output of Return and Dragon Tail. Taunt stops Lickilicky from healing himself and his team.</p>
 
This is ready for some offical GP checks. It already has an unafficial check, so it shouldn't be too difficult. I messaged a couple people asking for checks and have had no response, so if anyone has recommendations, please let me know!
 

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[Overview]

<p>The super-cute, long-tongued Lickilicky returns this generation to find himself once again locked firmly in the UU tier. Lickilicky is by no means a bad Pokemon; solid 110/95/95 bulk paired with respectable attack stats and a fabulous movepool means that Lickilicky is easy to fit into any team. He was given some fun new toys this generation in Dragon Tail, Work Up, and an improved Disable. The problem for Lickilicky is that for every set that he can run, something else can usually do it better, or at least differently. Chansey, Alomomola, and Clefable give Lickilicky competition as a supporter, the former two passing more health per Wish and the latter having Magic Guard and Encore. Luckily for Lickilicky, he's not as vulnerable as Chansey and Alomomola are to physical and special attacks, respectively, and he is bulkier and more powerful than Clefable. Offensively, a plethora of physical and special sweepers hit harder and out-perform Lickilicky, despite his amazing coverage and bulk. A low 50 base Speed of 50 doesn't help get things done, either.</p>

<p>Never underestimate this rotund licking monster, however; his expansive movepool will leave the opponent guessing repeatedly about the moves he is carrying, and one misprediction can spell doom for your foe. Passing large Wishes, phazing with Dragon Tail, breaking walls with Life Orb sets...Lickilicky can practically do it all. And, when all else fails, Lickilicky can still exit the field in booming style, slinging a STAB Explosion into your opposition's face.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Wish
move 2: Protect
move 3: Return
move 4: Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Licklicky is a great supporter for any team, setting himself apart from others with Dragon Tail, reliable attacking power, and balanced defenses. Wish and Protect allow Lickilicky to heal both himself and his team, passing 212 HP health per Wish, the third-highest amount in the tier after Chansey and Alomomola. Unlike those two, Lickilicky has Return to provide him with a consistent and powerful STAB attack. He also doesn't have to fear special attacks like Alomomola or physical attacks like Chansey; having balanced defenses gives Lickilicky an advantage when supporting the team compared to them. Dragon Tail is a great move that lets Lickilicky scout and phaze at the same time. Since he has ample bulk to take hits, the negative priority of Dragon Tail is usually not an issue.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>One of Lickilicky's greatest weapons is his unpredictability. There are several other options Lickilicky could utilize to support the team, including Heal Bell, Knock Off and Disable. Heal Bell turns Lickilicky into a clerical supporter, curing your team of status effects. Knock Off rids the opponent of their precious items, crippling Eviolite users and neutering the power of Choice items. Disable can lock the foe out of an important move, giving one of your teammates a great chance to switch in and set up. If used, Heal Bell, Knock Off, or Disable should replace Dragon Tail; however, Lickilicky is typically more useful as a phazer. Explosion can be used over Return as a last-ditch effort to take something down with Lickilicky. The Explosion nerf was horrible for Pokemon such as Azelf, but having STAB with it still lets Lickilicky use Explosion well, and he can usually guarantee a KO against foes who don't resist it. Prediction is key when using Explosion, though; Lickilicky's low speed can make it a bit tricky to effectively time Explosion.</p>

<p>Lickilicky greatly appreciates entry hazards with this set since they help him rack up damage when phazing with Dragon Tail. Scolipede, Roserade, and Froslass work especially well since they aren't afraid of the Fighting-type attacks that are guaranteed to be sent Lickilicky's way. Speaking of Froslass, Ghost-types without reliable healing are great partners for Lickilicky; most can cripple Fighting-types with Will-o-Wisp and love the Wish support Lickilicky provides.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Lickilicky has a very large movepool, but most of what he can outside of supporting is outclassed by other Pokemon. Boosting with Swords Dance, Work Up, or and Curse would be plausible if it weren't for the plethora of Fighting-types running around. Any Lickilicky that boosts is a sitting duck for Fighting-type attacks, which usually dispose of him in one hit despite his bulk. There are some great coverage moves in Lickilicky's arsenal, including Ice Beam, Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, Surf on the special side and Aqua Tail, Power Whip, Earthquake, Brick Break, Facade, Rock Slide, the elemental punches, Hammer Arm, Gyro Ball, and Zen Headbutt as physical options. Any of these attacks could be used for coverage depending on what your team needs to counter; Lickilicky has enough offensive capability to use them effectively in most cases.</p>

<p>Body Slam is another option for STAB, trading some power for the chance to paralyze. This would be a fantastic option on the support set if Body Slam were not illegal with Wish. A SubPunch set is viable with Lickilicky's bulk and moderate power, but there are faster and stronger Pokemon who are better SubPunchers. Counter can catch an opponent completely off guard and grab a surprise KO. RestTalk works well with Lickilicky's natural bulk, but healing with Wish is more reliable and supports the team at the same time.</p>

<p>Cloud Nine is new for Lickilicky this generation, and is useful when using him to support on a Sandstorm or Hail team. Weather isn't that common in the UU tier, but neither is confusion. Cloud Nine is a perfectly acceptable alternative to Own Tempo, depending on whether one fears confusion or weather more. The biggest problem with Cloud Nine is that it is not legal with Wish, one of Lickilicky's main selling points.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Lickilicky is very difficult to counter initially due to his large and unpredictable movepool. Regardless, strong Fighting-type moves break Lickilicky down pretty quickly, and most Fighting-types are quick enough to outpace Lickilicky and KO him before he can strike. Toxic and Will-o-Wisp screw up Lickilicky's bulk and durability, and the latter severs the damage output of Return and Dragon Tail. Taunt stops Lickilicky from healing himself and his team.</p>




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